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Old 09-11-2007, 12:52 AM
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There's going to be a track event in Spring Mountain (near Las Vegas), coming up in about 10 days.

I want to attend the two day track event, my plan is to drive my car from California (about 350 miles away), to the track event and stay in Las Vegas. I expect to do close to 1,000 miles (there and back, at the track, around Vegas, ect).

I got no trailer, nor any plans for anybody to come up with a truck. Basically, no way of hauling Hoosier tires with track rims.

I figure the cost of Hoosier tires are close to $1,300 ( I got one track day on them). The cost of current street tires approx $1,500-$1,700 (my guess). I am sure after a two day track event street tires will be toast, with the support of Vegas weather.

I could put on the Hoosier tires before I go. Change the ride height (coilover setup) for the track setup and get an alignment...

I am going to take with me a back up car air compressor and tire repair kit (in case something happens). Since the street and track tires are both non-runflat.

I know the possible hazard of driving Hoosier tires on the street, and the fact of the soft compound of the tire can make it puncture easily.

So can it be done? Driving on the Hoosiers. I could patch the tire right? Or will I be stuck somewhere along the way.. . (bring a sleeping bag and bug spray?)

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Old 09-11-2007, 01:10 AM
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You cannot do it - they won't last.

The heat and RPMs alone will burn the tires out even if you don't hit a rock.

I would think you /might/ make it there - but you wouldn't make it back...

that's my opinion and I've driven them to threads, 12 sessions at 3miles per lap over 12 laps per session that 432.

If I give you double that with /street/ driving you only get 864 at EDGE of thread.

I get some KDWs for the street and ship the hoosier skins to your location.

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Old 09-11-2007, 07:26 AM
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One little stone in the wrong place and POP.

No not for street use.
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Rent a Uhaul truck and trailer, it will cost less than a set of tires.

I have fit 4 wheels/tires in my C5 coupe before and 19/20 combo at that. Your plan is not only unlikely to work, but what if you go through rain? You will hydroplane at the drop of a dime.
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Even if you tape up the quarter panels, I predict that the tires will throw so much muck and so many rocks at them that you'll have to darn near repaint parts of the car when you get back. I know what mine looks like just running Toyo RA1s, which aren't nearly as sticky.
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Originally Posted by JiminVirginia
Even if you tape up the quarter panels, I predict that the tires will throw so much muck and so many rocks at them that you'll have to darn near repaint parts of the car when you get back. I know what mine looks like just running Toyo RA1s, which aren't nearly as sticky.
I have to agree with Jim. It will mess up your paint.
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the manufacturer says do not use them on the street. i wonder why you don't believe them?
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Originally Posted by mousecatcher
the manufacturer says do not use them on the street. i wonder why you don't believe them?
I'm going to go out here and say I believe the warning is /not for highway use/

Eitherway, there is little good to come from him trying this.

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Have you, or anyone else, verified that the Hoosiers mounted on a separate set of wheels, will or will not fit inside the car? I used to be able to fit a set of 4mounted tires inside my 1997 Z28.
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Why not just ship them to the track?
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I use hoosier R6's all the time you should have no problem. I have put over 3,000 miles on one set of my R6's that is street driving and 15 track days. I am a member at the AutoBahn Country Club in Joliet, IL. Also I have driven down gravel roads and had no problem. It all matters how you drive and know where you are going to. No, I would not go on a road trip 3 states away with these tires. But I probable would not do the same if I was driving on the Run Flats to.
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Originally Posted by jkonkle
I'm going to go out here and say I believe the warning is /not for highway use/
I believe you're right. But highway in this context means just what the DOT means by highway -- public roads. In CA, we have highways, freeways and expressways. So would hoosiers be ok on freeways and expressways? Not that I have any idea what the difference is.

I wonder if there is official word from Hoosier why they are not safe for highway use.
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Originally Posted by 805Z06
There's going to be a track event in Spring Mountain (near Las Vegas), coming up in about 10 days.

I want to attend the two day track event, my plan is to drive my car from California (about 350 miles away), to the track event and stay in Las Vegas. I expect to do close to 1,000 miles (there and back, at the track, around Vegas, ect).

I got no trailer, nor any plans for anybody to come up with a truck. Basically, no way of hauling Hoosier tires with track rims.

I figure the cost of Hoosier tires are close to $1,300 ( I got one track day on them). The cost of current street tires approx $1,500-$1,700 (my guess). I am sure after a two day track event street tires will be toast, with the support of Vegas weather.

I could put on the Hoosier tires before I go. Change the ride height (coilover setup) for the track setup and get an alignment...

I am going to take with me a back up car air compressor and tire repair kit (in case something happens). Since the street and track tires are both non-runflat.

I know the possible hazard of driving Hoosier tires on the street, and the fact of the soft compound of the tire can make it puncture easily.

So can it be done? Driving on the Hoosiers. I could patch the tire right? Or will I be stuck somewhere along the way.. . (bring a sleeping bag and bug spray?)

Experince, thoughts, ...
No need for bug spray here. Rattlesnake antivenom is a must.
Old 09-11-2007, 07:04 PM
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I have them as well and use the as my only tires at this point no complaint but hold on!!!
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I have had the Hoosiers on my car now about 3000 miles. The fronts are getting worn on the inside. The rears are about 3/4 gone. They still grip better than any street tire. I haven't had any problems with them. I haven't driven any differently on them than I would in any of my other cars. I have had two punctures in the Pilot Sport PS2's on my Mercedes though. Mine are grooved for street use though. I have had no rpoblem in rain as well. Wouldn't want to get caught in rain on slicks during such a long trip.

As said though, you are staying there, rightt? Just ship the tires to the hotel or the track.
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Here's a suggestion...before I was towing, I could fit 3 into the car itself wrapped in gargage bags. 2 in the rear, one in the passenger seat. I then found out who was attending the event I was going to and of those people who was close to where I lived (within 50 miles).

I actually e-mailed the chair of the event or the main registration person to have them send an e-mail to all those in say NJ.

We'll I got so many responses of people who were willing to help out and take my tire, it worked out great. I actually found someone who lived within 10 miles of my house!

The other good suggestion is to rent a U-haul truck. It's not cheap, but you feel more comfortable.

In the future you may be better off buying an R-compound with tread that is less aggressive and will stand up to highway use better. GOD forbid you get caught in any rain with those tires!!!
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Originally Posted by BursethRacing
I use hoosier R6's all the time you should have no problem. I have put over 3,000 miles on one set of my R6's that is street driving and 15 track days. I am a member at the AutoBahn Country Club in Joliet, IL. Also I have driven down gravel roads and had no problem. It all matters how you drive and know where you are going to. No, I would not go on a road trip 3 states away with these tires. But I probable would not do the same if I was driving on the Run Flats to.
Me too!! I run mine on the road and the track all the time. I know others that do the same. I have close to 2500 miles and 6 track days on mine and they are fine!! I wont get and I'm not expecting to get 10,000 miles out of these tires.

Get out and enjoy your car.

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I would not try to go that far on them, especially with a track alignment. If you do make it there OK I would guess it wouldn't be long before cords are showing on the inside edges and then you are risking yourself and your car on the track. Then there's the drive back home...

The driving you will be doing also counts as at least one prolonged heat cycle. I'm not sure they were designed for that. I agree that it will also tear up your paint.

I would buy a set of spare wheels, mount and ship them. You'll still be bumming a jack when you get there. If you are going to the track, there is a minimum amount of equipment you need to invest in. Good luck
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Originally Posted by mousecatcher
I believe you're right. But highway in this context means just what the DOT means by highway -- public roads. In CA, we have highways, freeways and expressways. So would hoosiers be ok on freeways and expressways? Not that I have any idea what the difference is.

I wonder if there is official word from Hoosier why they are not safe for highway use.
We are in total agreement in that HIGHWAY == public road :-)

I was remember what it says on TIRE. I believe on the tire it says /Not for Highway Use/ :-)

I've driven around on street with them, but they get a chance to cool off (more so than constant driving on highway). I know highway driving at 80mph on a hot day will blow a regular tire if it's overinflated before driving :-) Especially here in Texas where the road temp is pretty high.

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Thanks guys. I got a lot of info to consider. I guess the road drip would be risky based on the opinons of possible cording/ paint damage ect...

In regards to the Uhaul set up... going to Vegas in a trailer doing 55mph is going to be a very long trip. Then I would have to worry about parking it, I don't think the big casinos would be crazy about valet a Uhaul trailer.

Packing all my gear in the Z06, driving 75-95 straight there would the way to go.

Shipping would be an option to consider. I would have to look into it. But I see it as a pain, since I would have to ship them back after I finish on Sunday night.

The other advice on sending an e-mail to other track riders might be possible.

What I could do, something like 95jersey was saying, take only two rear tires in the back of the car (if I could somehow make them fit, 345's going to be hard). So on the track have street tires in the front and slicks in the rear. Could be better than nothing, but than again how would the car respong?


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