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Old 08-06-2006, 02:39 PM
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Ok, what cars will beat a Z06?

Please be honest.

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I want Mass Produced Production Vehicles, not some 1 of 6 car. Cars that you may actually see on the street. Not some friggin Bugatti, etc...

REAL cars.............

I just read some article about the New Porsche 997 TT, they said sell your Ferrari, Z06, etc.. cause the New King is coming.
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Porsche 997TT is nice... but from most reports of people with first hand experience so far, it only beats out the Z in traction (AWD helps loads for bad conditions) and up to like 70'ish MPH.

Otherwise a Ford GT will put up a very strong fight against the Z... it's mostly a matter of who's the better driver in that scenario. If you want something that can clearly and pretty easily beat the Z in performance, you're looking at cars on the Carrera GT and Enzo level.
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From a performance standpoint, only the super super sport cars (Enzo, CGT, Pagani, Saleen) can out perform the Z06.

even though 997TT and F430 are very nice cars but they're no match for Z06.
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The upcoming Porsche GT2 is going to be lighting quick and it should beat the Z without problem.......

Only the Mega exotics can beat the Z06.......

Enzo, SLR, CGT, 599, the new Murcielago with 640hp etc.....
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Originally Posted by ivan111
Only the Mega exotics can beat the Z06....... the new Murcielago with 640hp etc.....
640HP

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Old 08-06-2006, 03:23 PM
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Enzo
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I've raced pretty much every exotic there is.

Enzo will win and CGT will win. I beat a Ford GT when I was completely stock. Zlicious recently beat another ford GT in his completely stock Z.

I was dead even with a modded F50 through a gear but we ran out of room.

gallardo, 430, 997turbo....not even close.

My friend that owns a CGT saw me wreck the 997turbo on a run one day. Afterwards he said that I would probably beat him too. I said he's nuts but I'm down to run you if you want. Yes my car is slightly modded but I guarantee you although I'll lose to the CGT it will be a better race than against the 997 turbo.

I also guarantee you when I race a 599 I will come out on top.
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Originally Posted by FUTURESTRADER
640HP

Any links?
http://www.globalautosports.com/car/...oupe_2065.html


http://www.salon-auto.ch/en/news/ind...dContent=59112
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Originally Posted by xfifty
From a performance standpoint, only the super super sport cars (Enzo, CGT, Pagani, Saleen) can out perform the Z06.

even though 997TT and F430 are very nice cars but they're no match for Z06.
I beg to differ. The new porsche 911 tt with the overbost feature will beat the Z
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Originally Posted by Kelly100
I beg to differ. The new porsche 911 tt with the overbost feature will beat the Z
I believe in this case, as well as in the case of the ford gt, it would be a driver's race. All of them are VERY close in performance numbers. The difference is, it will cost you twice as much, or more, for the ford gt & the 911tt....to go as fast as the Z.
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Are you trying to get affirmation of your buying decision?

How many times can we keep revisiting this topic?
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I think with my mods i should be close with CGT and ENZO.
My car is almost stock(at least its not drag monster,its everyday car with just 10k invested in)...
CGT has advantage in close gearing...
Originally Posted by phantasms
I've raced pretty much every exotic there is.

Enzo will win and CGT will win. I beat a Ford GT when I was completely stock. Zlicious recently beat another ford GT in his completely stock Z.

I was dead even with a modded F50 through a gear but we ran out of room.

gallardo, 430, 997turbo....not even close.

My friend that owns a CGT saw me wreck the 997turbo on a run one day. Afterwards he said that I would probably beat him too. I said he's nuts but I'm down to run you if you want. Yes my car is slightly modded but I guarantee you although I'll lose to the CGT it will be a better race than against the 997 turbo.

I also guarantee you when I race a 599 I will come out on top.
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Originally Posted by Kelly100
I beg to differ. The new porsche 911 tt with the overbost feature will beat the Z

The 911 tt has no chance against the Z, you will need that overboost to be sustained to about 5,500 RPM's for the 911 tt to had any chance against the Z not just for 10seconds......

Overboost works from 2,100 to 4,000 RPM's...

Of the 911 tt family only the GT2 can beat the Z.....
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Here are Hockenheim times achived by Sport Auto:
Audi RS4(Corsa's): 1.15,4min
BMW M6(Corsa's): 1.14,4min
Corvette Z06: 1.11,9min
Ferrari F430F1(Corsa's): 1.12,7min
Ford GT: 1,14,1min
Lamborghini Gallardo(Corsa's): 1.11,8min(old 500hp version)
Lamborghini Gallardo(Corsa's): 1.11,6min(new 520hp version)
Porsche 997 Carrera S(X51,-20mm/LSD,PCCB): 1.13,7min
Porsche 997 Turbo(Manual,PCCB): 1.13,7min
Porsche 997 GT3(PCCB, Michelin Cup's): 1.11,7min
Porsche CGT: 1.08,6min


Hockenheim is a small course that its main priority is handling, so here you can see that the Z beats the 911 tt by almost 2 seconds that is a huge lead in a small track......

To give you an idea of how big is that gap when Motor Trend in their comparison between the C6 Z51 and the 997S some months ago, the C6 won by 6 tenths of a second and in their graphic MT put that that was equal to a lead of 112 feet so imagined here how much is the lead.....
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Originally Posted by Kelly100
I beg to differ. The new porsche 911 tt with the overbost feature will beat the Z
Really?? Hereis a copy of Todd for EVOMS recent run at a dragstrip. note that even after the mods, it is not as quick as some of the ZO6 pilots are reporting.

Originally Posted by Todd@EVOMS
It was nice to see you all last night We had a great time. I was impressed with the way the 997TT performed. I have to thank the the mystery owner who lent me their new 997TT to run at the drags Anyway, on my way home I hooked up my "driftbox" a performance data logger and ran some 0-60 runs, 0-100 runs and 1/4 mile runs (on a private airstrip of course) My previous runs with the 997TT bone stock were as follows:

STOCK 997TT
Best, Average
0-60: 3.8, 3.9
0-100: 9.7, 9.8
1/4 mile time: 12.27, 12.35
1/4 mile speed: 117, 116
60-130: 13.6, 13.8
Outside temps were 94F

Last night after the drags I was able to run some more times with this modified 997TT. We will be releasing more information on this stage of performance and what it includes on our "official evolution of a 997TT" thread. I will download the memory card and upload the graphs of these runs as well.

EVO Stage 1 997TT
Best, Average
0-60: 3.4, 3.6
0-100: 8.9, 8.9
1/4 mile time: 11.94, 11.97
1/4 mile speed: 121, 120
60-130: TBD, TBD
Outside temps were 86F
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Sportscars? No.
Supercars? Maybe.

I wouldn't expect to win against any of these:
Carrera GT
Enzo
Murc LP640
McLaren F1
SLR 722
SLR Mclaren
Saleen S7
Pagani Zonda F
Gumpert Apollo
Koenigsegg CCX
Maserati MC12 Corsa
Noble M15
SSC Ultimate Aero

I also don't expect to ever SEE one of those.

However, there's always something like this to beware of:
Ultima GTR720
http://www.ultimacars.com/fra_pricing_ordering.htm <$100K

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Old 08-06-2006, 07:04 PM
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Imho 1/10 of a percent of sports car owners will ever really see the benefit of who is quicker.
If you are on the street or track with 2 wheel drive and go against an all wheel drive car you can probably hang it up.Unless you are an incredible drag racer.

That being said good luck finding a 997,F430,Lambo,Ford Gt to take a challenge.

I say that the Z puts us in a different caliber of car ownership and we are splitting hairs just for bragging rights.


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Originally Posted by linutux
However, there's always something like this to beware of:
Ultima GTR720
http://www.ultimacars.com/fra_pricing_ordering.htm <$100K
Under $100K minus the engine and transmission. Add at least another $50K for the Porsche transaxle and C5R 427.





I still would love to have one though!
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On a paper:
SLR has 348hp per ton.
Z06 has 355hp per ton.
And anyway in real life SRL is still faster than Z as on the staright, as on the track(if to believe TopGear`s times -the difference is 1.5sec!!!).

Ford GT: At TOP GEAR`s track its faster that Z on 0.5sec while in all magazines GT has advantage max. in 0.1-0.2sec.+its faster on the staright
BUT Phantasms proved another...

To whom to trust....?

My evo 650whp was same fast as R6,while other evo owners with 400+whp claimed that they are much faster that R6....

By the way CGT has Much more sexual sound that Z
Like F1 vs Old Tractor


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