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Old 06-23-2006, 02:56 PM
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Default C6 Z06 faster than Ferrari F50

...at least until 180 km/h

In a swiss car magazin called "auto illustrierte" the C6 Z06 was testet 0-180 km/h in 9.6 sec, thats faster than a testet Ferrari F50 http://www.einszweidrei.de/ferrari/f501996-1.htm

Not bad...
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The Z06 did 0-200 km/h in 11.9 secs..
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..well, on this test, they were only testing until 180 km/h, maybe they were afraid of higher speed
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Whoever tested that F50 must have sucked.

F50's 0-60 is 3.7 seconds. Slightly faster than the Z06. It has 520 hp, and weighs 2900 pounds. More horsepower, less weight. Granted the Z06 gives a very good showing for itself, especially considering the price difference. But with a competent driver there's no way a Z06 is beating the F50.
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Originally Posted by WallyWest
Whoever tested that F50 must have sucked.

F50's 0-60 is 3.7 seconds. Slightly faster than the Z06. It has 520 hp, and weighs 2900 pounds. More horsepower, less weight. Granted the Z06 gives a very good showing for itself, especially considering the price difference. But with a competent driver there's no way a Z06 is beating the F50.

I don't know, those F50 times seem fairly representitive... 100km/h (62 mph) in 3.9 sec. - take off a tenth or two to 60 mph and you're close to a 3.7 sec. 0 to 60 mph. 160 km/h (100 mph) in 8 sec. seems about right, too. Although, I believe I've seen it elsewhere in the upper 7's.

The F50 may weigh a couple hundred pounds less than the Z06, but it gives up 100 lb/ft of torque to the Z. Maybe a Ferrari test driver could knock some time off of those figures, but I wouldn't say they're ridiculous.
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Originally Posted by VY427
I don't know, those F50 times seem fairly representitive... 100km/h (62 mph) in 3.9 sec. - take off a tenth or two to 60 mph and you're close to a 3.7 sec. 0 to 60 mph. 160 km/h (100 mph) in 8 sec. seems about right, too. Although, I believe I've seen it elsewhere in the upper 7's.

The F50 may weigh a couple hundred pounds less than the Z06, but it gives up 100 lb/ft of torque to the Z. Maybe a Ferrari test driver could knock some time off of those figures, but I wouldn't say they're ridiculous.
torque gets you going .. horsepower keeps you going .. so .. mAYBE
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The F50 may weigh a couple hundred pounds less than the Z06, but it gives up 100 lb/ft of torque to the Z. Maybe a Ferrari test driver could knock some time off of those figures, but I wouldn't say they're ridiculous.
Peak torque is a meaningless figure to quote. HP rating + gearing is what moves you forward.
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Originally Posted by WallyWest
Whoever tested that F50 must have sucked.

F50's 0-60 is 3.7 seconds. Slightly faster than the Z06. It has 520 hp, and weighs 2900 pounds. More horsepower, less weight. Granted the Z06 gives a very good showing for itself, especially considering the price difference. But with a competent driver there's no way a Z06 is beating the F50.
Ferrari overrated the power on the F50 by quite a margin, that's why all tests showed in slower than the F40.

I have an article from Car & Driver where an F50 is dyno'd at Norwood Performance (well known Ferrari tuner in Texas) and it only managed 370 RWHP (~435 crank hp), Norwood said it was typical for an F50.

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Originally Posted by Hans Grüber
Ferrari overrated the power on the F50 by quite a margin, that's why all tests showed in slower than the F40.

I have an article from Car & Driver where an F50 is dyno'd at Norwood Performance (well known Ferrari tuner in Texas) and it only managed 370 RWHP (~435 crank hp), Norwood said it was typical for an F50.
Yeah Ferrari is well known for doing that. The F40 is well known for also being a good bit faster than the F50. Some say it's as fast or faster than the Enzo. Not bad for 18 years ago.
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Yeah Ferrari is well known for doing that. The F40 is well known for also being a good bit faster than the F50. Some say it's as fast or faster than the Enzo. Not bad for 18 years ago.

F40 = All from a 2.9 L engine.
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Yep, the F40 has around 500 and above HP and is FAST:

http://www.einszweidrei.de/ferrari/f40sp1989-1.htm
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Originally Posted by NSTG8R
torque gets you going .. horsepower keeps you going .. so .. mAYBE


Man that just sounds good..
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Originally Posted by bigpower
F40 = All from a 2.9 L engine.
And it did 0-100mph in 7.5 seconds. Half a second faster than the Z, 18 years ago. The truly amazing car is the F40LM. Same engine with 850-900hp instead of the standard 487. All at 2200LBS. Check out this video of one. Brutal car.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...5194&q=ferrari

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@Hampi

Did you get your Z06 yet?
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...nein, habe meine Bestellung im Winter annuliert.

Too much power for swiss streets...
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Originally Posted by PeterK
Peak torque is a meaningless figure to quote. HP rating + gearing is what moves you forward.
I don't have the hp/torque graphs for each car in front of me, but the Z06 makes 400 lb/ft fairly low and though it peaks at about 4800 rpm, it holds 400 lb/ft till somewhere over 6000 rpm. The 470 lb/ft peak figure is not a short blip on the curve.

Torque is equally important in accelerating the car. Yes, a light weight car with a lot of hp and limited torque will accelerate well with proper gearing, but the Z06 has it all. It's light, its engine has a nice, flat torque curve with good hp up top and it has proper gearing, too.
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Originally Posted by 355Spider
And it did 0-100mph in 7.5 seconds. Half a second faster than the Z, 18 years ago. The truly amazing car is the F40LM. Same engine with 850-900hp instead of the standard 487. All at 2200LBS. Check out this video of one. Brutal car.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...5194&q=ferrari
Cool video, moronic driver doing that with no helmet.

Jay

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Originally Posted by Hans Grüber
Ferrari overrated the power on the F50 by quite a margin, that's why all tests showed in slower than the F40.

I have an article from Car & Driver where an F50 is dyno'd at Norwood Performance (well known Ferrari tuner in Texas) and it only managed 370 RWHP (~435 crank hp), Norwood said it was typical for an F50.
Hmm, I didn't know that. In that case the numbers are more believable.

Originally Posted by PeterK
Peak torque is a meaningless figure to quote. HP rating + gearing is what moves you forward.
Horsepower is meaningless too. If you want to get technical what matters is the area under the torque curve. In terms of acceleration you can completely ignore horsepower, it doesn't tell you a damn thing.

That's why Ferrari's with less than impressive horsepower ratings can still be stinking fast. They rev forever, and with a higher redline comes a wider torque curve.
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Originally Posted by Hans Grüber
Ferrari overrated the power on the F50 by quite a margin, that's why all tests showed in slower than the F40.

I have an article from Car & Driver where an F50 is dyno'd at Norwood Performance (well known Ferrari tuner in Texas) and it only managed 370 RWHP (~435 crank hp), Norwood said it was typical for an F50.
it wouldn't surprise me if the weight was understated also.......I believe that is ferrari's standard practice.
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whatever the times are, you can't beat the beautiful sounds of the F40,50, enzo there is nothing else in the world

.......except maybe the C6R


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