[Z06] It's Not NIce To Taunt Posrches
06-15-2006, 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by meadowz06
Actually you are mistaken. A regular 996 TT(non X50) is the equal in performance of a 405hp C5 Z06! I have seen 3 or 4 tests comparing the two cars, and they are about dead even 0-60, and quarter mile. Obviously the 996 TT will have an advantage on top end as the C5 Z06 is limited by gearing to about 168. A 996 TT is not even CLOSE to the C6 Z06-period! The 996TT weighs 3659 pounds and has 415hp, the C5 Z06 weighs approx 3115lbs. You do the math.
06-15-2006, 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by meadowz06
The 996TT weighs 3659 pounds...
06-15-2006, 10:48 AM
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Ok screw this. When my 07 Z arrives I'm going to go out and order a nice 997TT. That way I can have the best of both worlds. Two *** kicking, beautiful, fun to drive cars 
Should the 997TT be black or one of the darker gray/silver colors?
Should the 997TT be black or one of the darker gray/silver colors?
06-15-2006, 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by RiceEaterZ06
Ok screw this. When my 07 Z arrives I'm going to go out and order a nice 997TT. That way I can have the best of both worlds. Two *** kicking, beautiful, fun to drive cars
Should the 997TT be black or one of the darker gray/silver colors?
Should the 997TT be black or one of the darker gray/silver colors?
06-15-2006, 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by TheBRAD
You missed my point. My example of E36 M3 vs C5 Z06 passing it on the track shows the huge differential between the 2. That differential is even bigger than C6 Z06 vs 996 Turbo, where it is close enough that, LET ME REPEAT, the driver will easily make a huge difference
I think you are missing the point. While it is true that the driver is more important than the car, the gist of the discussion has been cars NOT drivers. Because the SCCA driver (I previously mentioned) did well in a Dae Woo does not mean that a Dae Woo is a Supercar or capable as a sports car.
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06-15-2006, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Notch
Yes, the 996 Turbo weighs more than a C6Z, but the Turbo's weight is ~3500 lbs...not 3659 lbs.
The 997 Turbo curb weight is about 3500 lb., roughly 150 lb. lighter than the previous-generation Turbo. [source:R&T]
For the record I find the license plate to be pretty funny. I also find many bumper stickers to be funny. And you won't find either one on any of my cars.
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06-15-2006, 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by ricatthebeach
Only problem is that at least one of those guys has offered his Porsche up for "smoking" and you turned him down; not once but twice you wimped out. As far as the "car dude" thing is concerned, I like some performance cars more than others; but I dont' as you say hate any of them. So speak for yourself. And take that stupid frame off you car because most who see you with it think you're a dork!
06-15-2006, 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by ALLBlackC6
How the hell.....blah blah...
if he likes his frame than thats all that matters.
if he likes his frame than thats all that matters.
and you offer your Z06 "for breakfast", and he kept turning you down...
would you still say "hey as long as he likes his frame.."
He then gets an Eclipse, and puts the same frame on...
then gets caught lying about the challenges...
that's basically it in a nutshell
06-15-2006, 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by TheBRAD
then gets caught lying about the challenges...
that's basically it in a nutshell
The guy that said "he wouldn't race me", also said it was a base C6, therefore he doesn't even know what a Z06 is, therefore just lost all credibility, but your certain this guy "got caught lying about the challenges", the guy also posted times showing his car to be a tad slower, than said, "a stock porsche will eat him alive", I mean are you kidding me? The guys a joke.
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06-15-2006, 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by ALLBlackC6
The guy that said "he wouldn't race me", also said it was a base C6, therefore he doesn't even know what a Z06 is, therefore just lost all credibility, but your certain this guy "got caught lying about the challenges", the guy also posted times showing his car to be a tad slower, than said, "a stock porsche will eat him alive", I mean are you kidding me? The guys a joke.
06-15-2006, 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by TheBRAD
no he made a mistake and admitted to thinking it was just a C6 in that 6SpeedOnline thread... I don't think that makes the guy, who called SmokedPorschePlateFrameRON out, lose credibility.
S.P.P.F.Ron said the guy never called him out, so we don't know, and S.P.P.F.Ron has a GM hotcam I think he said so its a bad *** Z
06-15-2006, 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by rbarta
What he stated is correct, the 996TT is 3659lbs.
Car and Driver - September 2000 issue (Article entitled "1224 Horses, No Cup Holders", which was a real world test of the 996 Turbo ) - 996 Turbo curb weight as tested 3500 lbs.
Road and Track - November 2000 issue (Article entitled "2001 911 Turbo", a real world test of the car) - 996 Turbo curb weight as tested 3480 lbs.
My '02 996 Turbo - weighed on four pad racing scales with a full tank of gas - 3480 lbs.
06-15-2006, 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by ALLBlackC6
S.P.P.F.Ron said the guy never called him out, so we don't know...
06-15-2006, 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Notch
Has Ron ever replied to Craig's specific references? No. And until he does, the credibility is in Craig's favor.
SmokedPorschePlateRON got BUSTED
another thing to add is.. I wish the Z06 looks more obviously a Z06 not just a C6... like the 996Turbo is easy to tell vs regular 996. That's why I don't blame people for mistaking Z06 for a C6 and vice versa..
06-15-2006, 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Notch
Sorry, that's not true.
Car and Driver - September 2000 issue (Article entitled "1224 Horses, No Cup Holders", which was a real world test of the 996 Turbo ) - 996 Turbo curb weight as tested 3500 lbs.
Road and Track - November 2000 issue (Article entitled "2001 911 Turbo", a real world test of the car) - 996 Turbo curb weight as tested 3480 lbs.
My '02 996 Turbo - weighed on four pad racing scales with a full tank of gas - 3480 lbs.
Car and Driver - September 2000 issue (Article entitled "1224 Horses, No Cup Holders", which was a real world test of the 996 Turbo ) - 996 Turbo curb weight as tested 3500 lbs.
Road and Track - November 2000 issue (Article entitled "2001 911 Turbo", a real world test of the car) - 996 Turbo curb weight as tested 3480 lbs.
My '02 996 Turbo - weighed on four pad racing scales with a full tank of gas - 3480 lbs.
"Curb weight is about 3500 lb., roughly 150 lb. lighter than the previous-generation Turbo."
http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....&page_number=2
Were they wrong then or are they wrong now? I guess since you weighed yours, they are wrong now and the 997TT has zero weight savings over the previous generation.
06-15-2006, 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by rbarta
"Curb weight is about 3500 lb., roughly 150 lb. lighter than the previous-generation Turbo."
Were they wrong then or are they wrong now? I guess since you weighed yours, they are wrong now and the 997TT has zero weight savings over the previous generation.
Were they wrong then or are they wrong now? I guess since you weighed yours, they are wrong now and the 997TT has zero weight savings over the previous generation.
06-15-2006, 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Exterminator
However, keep in mind as crazy as this thread has been, the thread has been referring to the C6Z vis a vis the Porsche not the C6. I would hardly call the interior of the car "50 cent" any more than I would call the performance of the 01 TT "50 cent" when compared to the C6Z albeit at a lower level. As pointed out by 996TTx50 the C6Z outperforms the 996TT in every category, stock vs stock.
In this case it is the C6Z which is truly the step up. Maybe you should have "kept the faith" and tried a C6Z before giving up on Vettes.
In this case it is the C6Z which is truly the step up. Maybe you should have "kept the faith" and tried a C6Z before giving up on Vettes.
The 50 cent interior comment refers more to C4s and C5s since the jury is still out on how well C6 interiors will hold up. Lets not pretend that a 415 hp car with AWD that is upgradable to 500 hp for $2000 has 50 cent performance. That just fuels the old Corvette owner sterotype, which I know isn't true.
Bottom line is that I loved my Corvettes (wish mid-year prices weren't so outrageous because I'd buy one ASAP) and I love my Porsche. Both cars have a great heritage.
06-15-2006, 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by rbarta
What he stated is correct, the 996TT is 3659lbs.
The 997 Turbo curb weight is about 3500 lb., roughly 150 lb. lighter than the previous-generation Turbo. [source:R&T]
For the record I find the license plate to be pretty funny. I also find many bumper stickers to be funny. And you won't find either one on any of my cars.
The 997 Turbo curb weight is about 3500 lb., roughly 150 lb. lighter than the previous-generation Turbo. [source:R&T]
For the record I find the license plate to be pretty funny. I also find many bumper stickers to be funny. And you won't find either one on any of my cars.
Wrong- 996TT is 3505. I'm looking at the owner's manual. Original thought was that 997TT was going to save about 150 pounds, but you're behind the curve on your info. 997TT saves less than 20 pounds on 996TT. You can PM Andi to confirm- he was present for the introduction of the 997TT and he has many hours experience behind the wheel of my 996TTS.
06-15-2006, 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by ALLBlackC6
The guy that said "he wouldn't race me", also said it was a base C6, therefore he doesn't even know what a Z06 is, therefore just lost all credibility, but your certain this guy "got caught lying about the challenges", the guy also posted times showing his car to be a tad slower, than said, "a stock porsche will eat him alive", I mean are you kidding me? The guys a joke.
06-15-2006, 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by ajindfw
Wrong- 996TT is 3505. I'm looking at the owner's manual.