[Z06] Dave Hill...Why am I NOT pleasantly surprized??
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Dave Hill...Why am I NOT pleasantly surprized??
I'm not happy about the base price...My target was $65k out the door with the base stuff and some wheels.
Well I will wait for the pleasant surprize for awhile longer before cancelling my order. Maybe some C5 owner rebates, Employee discounts or something.
Dave, you see there are a lot of other costs to buying a car other than the base price. You add on $800 for delivery (even though I would pay the $490 to go get it at the factory) and about $4500 in taxes and things start to add up fast (without thinking about that 2nd set of track tires)
I guess I'm keeping the C5 for another year...Then look for a discounted Z after the frenzy has died down (in about 6 months)
Well I will wait for the pleasant surprize for awhile longer before cancelling my order. Maybe some C5 owner rebates, Employee discounts or something.
Dave, you see there are a lot of other costs to buying a car other than the base price. You add on $800 for delivery (even though I would pay the $490 to go get it at the factory) and about $4500 in taxes and things start to add up fast (without thinking about that 2nd set of track tires)
I guess I'm keeping the C5 for another year...Then look for a discounted Z after the frenzy has died down (in about 6 months)
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Originally Posted by Gary2KC5
I'm not happy about the base price...My target was $65k out the door with the base stuff and some wheels.
Well I will wait for the pleasant surprize for awhile longer before cancelling my order. Maybe some C5 owner rebates, Employee discounts or something.
Dave, you see there are a lot of other costs to buying a car other than the base price. You add on $800 for delivery (even though I would pay the $490 to go get it at the factory) and about $4500 in taxes and things start to add up fast (without thinking about that 2nd set of track tires)
I guess I'm keeping the C5 for another year...Then look for a discounted Z after the frenzy has died down (in about 6 months)
Well I will wait for the pleasant surprize for awhile longer before cancelling my order. Maybe some C5 owner rebates, Employee discounts or something.
Dave, you see there are a lot of other costs to buying a car other than the base price. You add on $800 for delivery (even though I would pay the $490 to go get it at the factory) and about $4500 in taxes and things start to add up fast (without thinking about that 2nd set of track tires)
I guess I'm keeping the C5 for another year...Then look for a discounted Z after the frenzy has died down (in about 6 months)
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Originally Posted by Lazerwolfe
Dave Hill, how dare you not go out of your way to satisfy the wishes of one person!
then you are an idiot.
I don't believe that you are that stupid,
I just think you are just being rude and sarcastic and must have more money then sense.
So, do you think I am the only guy who wants a targa option for the new ZO6 ?????
Come to think of it,
I think you and Dave Hill would get along just fine.
I not only think Hill is an *** for not giving us a targa option.....
now I think his crew over priced the Z as well.
Oh,
and to all of you SNOBS out there that like to try and put people down..
I can afford to buy ANY car I want except the halo Ferrari and Porsche.
At the same time, I REFUSE to pay more than 10k over the coupe for the Z.
It's not worth it.
Last edited by 427 C5; 06-13-2005 at 11:29 PM.
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Originally Posted by wahoo99
true but a rational person wouldn't pay 70k for a Chevy with crummy service either..it goes both ways.
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Originally Posted by Boomer 2
Nothing personal, but what this car is worth, and what you can afford are two entirely different matters. Just because some people on this forum can't afford the new Z 06 does not mean it is not a great value.
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This is really sad. I used to be such a hard core GM/Corvette guy, I have become sooo disgruntled lately. I was hoping for an entry price in the high 50s and out the door in the 60s. For me, this is just another dissapointing event in a long chain of dissapointing events.
I will be very curious to see the volume and prices of the Z over the next few years.
I will be very curious to see the volume and prices of the Z over the next few years.
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I am not suprised with the pricing of the Z. I am not in the market, but when looking at it for performance per dollar, it is a deal. What I hear on the boards from those who are dissapointed is not about the performance of the car, it is about what? Up until the C6 I could not stand the corvette, I have driven several C6's and I am screwed. I see them everyday around where I work and it sucks....for now. This is the first corvette that I will own. Overall, I think it is a move in the right direction if GM wants a car that is truely respected around the world and at all levels.
Not trying to offend, just my observation.
Not trying to offend, just my observation.
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Originally Posted by 427 C5
I not only think Hill is an *** for not giving us a targa option.....
now I think his crew over priced the Z as well.
Oh,
and to all of you SNOBS out there that like to try and put people down..
now I think his crew over priced the Z as well.
Oh,
and to all of you SNOBS out there that like to try and put people down..
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Originally Posted by OUSchitzo
I am not suprised with the pricing of the Z. I am not in the market, but when looking at it for performance per dollar, it is a deal. What I hear on the boards from those who are dissapointed is not about the performance of the car, it is about what? Up until the C6 I could not stand the corvette, I have driven several C6's and I am screwed. I see them everyday around where I work and it sucks....for now. This is the first corvette that I will own. Overall, I think it is a move in the right direction if GM wants a car that is truely respected around the world and at all levels.
Not trying to offend, just my observation.
Not trying to offend, just my observation.
It would be different if they would just service the Vettes with the Caddy's, they're built next to each other aren't they?
I'm sure that the new Z06 has all the engineering issues taken care of and it is a heck of a car...on paper.
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Hey guys- I'm sorry to say this and I mean absolutely NO OFFENSE TO ANYBODY. The disappointment in C6Z pricing is due to three primary factors. . .
1. The new C6Z is out of some folks' financial league. This is a sad reality. Fact is, it is impossible to build a car that competes with both Porsche and Saturn. If the MSRP being $5-7K over what you expected makes the car unaffordable, then you couldn't afford it at $58K in spite of what you may have thought. Progress is progress, and it costs what it costs. I'm sorry if progress left you behind, but you can control your financial future and create a life wherein a C6Z is cheap to you in ten years or less. If you choose not to, it is not the fault of GM or someone who can afford the car.
2. Some refuse to pay $65K+ for a Chevy. Then screw it, buy an F430, car snob. BTW wanna race for pinks?
3. "I've been driving Corvettes my whole life and this price is bullsh*t". Answer: If you're loyal to the brand, then you'll support its growth.
The C6Z will perform with the best at lesser cost. Sure, GM needs to consider making the Corvette more "worth" its premium, but it still is a steal. For those of you that think Porsche or Ferrari ownership justifies the extra cost, rest assured that it is merely a matter of opinion. I like the way Porsche treats me, but for $70K and the performance of the C6Z, I can forgive a whole lotta idiocy.
1. The new C6Z is out of some folks' financial league. This is a sad reality. Fact is, it is impossible to build a car that competes with both Porsche and Saturn. If the MSRP being $5-7K over what you expected makes the car unaffordable, then you couldn't afford it at $58K in spite of what you may have thought. Progress is progress, and it costs what it costs. I'm sorry if progress left you behind, but you can control your financial future and create a life wherein a C6Z is cheap to you in ten years or less. If you choose not to, it is not the fault of GM or someone who can afford the car.
2. Some refuse to pay $65K+ for a Chevy. Then screw it, buy an F430, car snob. BTW wanna race for pinks?
3. "I've been driving Corvettes my whole life and this price is bullsh*t". Answer: If you're loyal to the brand, then you'll support its growth.
The C6Z will perform with the best at lesser cost. Sure, GM needs to consider making the Corvette more "worth" its premium, but it still is a steal. For those of you that think Porsche or Ferrari ownership justifies the extra cost, rest assured that it is merely a matter of opinion. I like the way Porsche treats me, but for $70K and the performance of the C6Z, I can forgive a whole lotta idiocy.
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Originally Posted by Boomer 2
Nothing personal, but what this car is worth, and what you can afford are two entirely different matters. Just because some people on this forum can't afford the new Z 06 does not mean it is not a great value.
Dave Hill - thanks. You've delivered a car with far better than Viper performance at an over $20,000 discount, a 150-hp advantage over the 911S for the same price than a Boxster S with a few options, and an infinitely better car than the 1995 ZR1 for less money... even ignoring 11 years of inflation. I hope I can afford one some day.
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Originally Posted by wahoo99
true but a rational person wouldn't pay 70k for a Chevy with crummy service either..it goes both ways.
Of course there are Chevy dealers with excellent service and Cadillac, Lexus, Infiniti, BMW, and Mercedes dealerships with terrible service. Hopefully you have a quality dealership close by, like I do.
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Some people here are a joke! Why don't we bitch an complain to Ferrari for being so high too?
Some people want everything for nothing. I've said it before and I'll say it again, we wonder why GM is in financial trouble. GM needs stop catering to that demographic.
Some people want everything for nothing. I've said it before and I'll say it again, we wonder why GM is in financial trouble. GM needs stop catering to that demographic.
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I'm sorry that you're not able to afford the Z06 right now.
Look at the positives - you don't risk buying a first year model, and you can possibly pick up a used one for a lot cheaper later on!
I always look at the glass as half full.
Look at the positives - you don't risk buying a first year model, and you can possibly pick up a used one for a lot cheaper later on!
I always look at the glass as half full.