Any tips on avoiding a "fishtail"?
12-10-2004, 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by smslevin
Which gear ratio do you have? The 3.15 should light up the tires under WOT.
12-10-2004, 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by bangbgC6
TC/AH completely disengaged, left foot on brake pedal, right foot on gas, bring R's up against brake. Once into the powerband stab the gas and hold the F*&%k on. Modulate throttle level against the steering and two black stripes about 12 " wide will appear magically behind you.
I haven't measured but they looked to be about 75-80 feet in length.
The only reason it stopped was I backed out of the throttle.
Bring Money for tires!
UPDATE: Sorry I left out one step.Once R's are where you feel they should be Take foot off brake.
I haven't measured but they looked to be about 75-80 feet in length.
The only reason it stopped was I backed out of the throttle.
Bring Money for tires!
UPDATE: Sorry I left out one step.Once R's are where you feel they should be Take foot off brake.
12-11-2004, 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by GENE HUBBARD
Yes, I'm sure with a "power launch" I can make the tires spin, but what about all these guys with their tales about fishtails. It seems that some can't drive without it while I would have to try to make it happen.
AH/TC are not magic bullets, those who depend on them without learning how to drive the car at the limit will get BIT big time when faced with a real world situation.
Just buying a high performance car does not make one a high performance driver!
12-11-2004, 10:49 PM
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[QUOTE=ny10522]Got on it today along a straight road. Must have gone about 2/3 of the way down the gas pedal in second. Car fishtailed about 45 degrees in each direction going over the divider on a two lane road. Took active handling or my steering about one/two seconds to correct. Road was perfectly dry. Really surprised the hell out of me. QUOTE]
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12-11-2004, 11:25 PM
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Seems like most are experiencing the rear of the car coming around on only one side or the other. I thought a fish tail flaps both right and left.
That is, except for 50-50 who did a 45-45.
That is, except for 50-50 who did a 45-45.
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12-12-2004, 06:48 AM
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12-12-2004, 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by wheelnut
Seems like most are experiencing the rear of the car coming around on only one side or the other. I thought a fish tail flaps both right and left.
That is, except for 50-50 who did a 45-45.
That is, except for 50-50 who did a 45-45.
A fishtail is what happens when you over-correct for the initial tailslide. And then you overcorrect for the overcorrection. Back and forth until you wind up backwards, and/or in a ditch...
12-12-2004, 03:29 PM
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All cars with any power at all will experience traction problems that may lead to fishtailing when putting the hammer down when it is cold. So if you don't floor them when it is cold you'll get no fishtailing.
The a4 has far less problems in this area then the mn6. I have the auto and before the six speeders start telling me that they have faster cars---I ALREADY KNOW THAT--OWNED AND DRIVEN BOTH. But the a4 bites and launches without all the fanfare, wheelspin, and kicking out the back. The a4's are at a serious disadvantage from the roll because the fewer gears create dead zones, but from the stoplight--I'm sorry ,I meant the Christmas tree, they flat out run and do not fishtail. I'm no tire expert but I have yet to read that any c6 owner like their tires. They seem to hurt the manuals more though. The a4's have posted 12.7's and we are seeing the manuals kind of stuck at 13.0 with higher trap speeds.
The a4 has far less problems in this area then the mn6. I have the auto and before the six speeders start telling me that they have faster cars---I ALREADY KNOW THAT--OWNED AND DRIVEN BOTH. But the a4 bites and launches without all the fanfare, wheelspin, and kicking out the back. The a4's are at a serious disadvantage from the roll because the fewer gears create dead zones, but from the stoplight--I'm sorry ,I meant the Christmas tree, they flat out run and do not fishtail. I'm no tire expert but I have yet to read that any c6 owner like their tires. They seem to hurt the manuals more though. The a4's have posted 12.7's and we are seeing the manuals kind of stuck at 13.0 with higher trap speeds.
break me off a piece of that
12-12-2004, 10:47 PM
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I read in one of the C6 reviews that the same guy that was the primary designor of the C6 is the same guy that was head designer for the Aztek.
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Strange but true?
12-13-2004, 06:18 AM
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I took the wife to the mall last night for some last minute shopping. I hammered the throttle on a straight stretch not far from the house. While I was appreciating the traction in 1st (A4) on relatively cold tires, it shifted into 2nd and went completely sideways. Completely and right now 
It took a few fishtails to get it going straight again, funny how big some of those trees look when you are pointing right at them. After things calmed down, she said that if I was going to do that again, give her a little warning. She thought I did it on purpose, I didn't tell her different 
God I love this car 
It took a few fishtails to get it going straight again, funny how big some of those trees look when you are pointing right at them. After things calmed down, she said that if I was going to do that again, give her a little warning. She thought I did it on purpose, I didn't tell her different God I love this car
12-13-2004, 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by UBETRUN
I took the wife to the mall last night for some last minute shopping. I hammered the throttle on a straight stretch not far from the house. While I was appreciating the traction in 1st (A4) on relatively cold tires, it shifted into 2nd and went completely sideways. Completely and right now It took a few fishtails to get it going straight again, funny how big some of those trees look when you are pointing right at them. After things calmed down, she said that if I was going to do that again, give her a little warning. She thought I did it on purpose, I didn't tell her different God I love this car
It took a few fishtails to get it going straight again, funny how big some of those trees look when you are pointing right at them. After things calmed down, she said that if I was going to do that again, give her a little warning. She thought I did it on purpose, I didn't tell her different God I love this car
12-13-2004, 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by SHOOTER 49
The a4 has far less problems in this area then the mn6. I have the auto and before the six speeders start telling me that they have faster cars---I ALREADY KNOW THAT--OWNED AND DRIVEN BOTH. But the a4 bites and launches without all the fanfare, wheelspin, and kicking out the back.
Generally true, but if you are on a slight turn and accelerating hard in 1st gear, the auto can catch you off guard when it pounds into 2nd and kicks the rear end out. This used to happen to me in my 1990 automatic vette, the 1-2 shift was pretty firm because it shifts right down into the torque peak of the L98.
And for an inexperienced driver, the slight kick-out of the rear end will make you correct with the steering, but if the rear tires are still spinning you get more "turn" than you bargained for.
Not that the same thing ever happened to me many years ago.
12-14-2004, 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by SHOOTER 49
CONFUSED---are you still driving the one bought back by GM?
12-14-2004, 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by UBETRUN
Yes, I can drive it until they give me a check. She said it might be by Xmas but wasn't 100% sure.