There is no C6
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There is no C6
I have an observation. If the cars from 1953-62 were all called the C1 due to a similar chassis/engine evolution (hence them being lumped together as "straight axles"), then the "new" car due out next year does not deserve a new designation. It is merely a reskinned C5 with minor modifications. So we should still call it a C5, or maybe a C5b like upgraded military airplanes are redesignated. But by no means should we accept this as a C6. PERIOD. I expected and wanted more. The design is by no means or by any definition innovative. When the C2 hit the streets, everybody knew its styling was unmatched. That's what I want. This design is like weak tea, a rehash of so many other people's design. A miata, camaro, viper (clown shoe), C5 hybred. Lame. GM, there are some people desperate enough for a new corvette that they will accept this as the real deal. I'll wait. :sad:
[Modified by 67ratrag, 3:55 PM 12/3/2003]
[Modified by 67ratrag, 3:55 PM 12/3/2003]
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Re: There is no C6 (TripleBlack99)
OKAY ... this is an old topic ...
Let's put it this way ...
The engine is different ...
The interior is different ...
The exterior is different ...
The car has new features ...
Why then is is only a modded C5?
A modded C5 would imply a body kit? or Stereo Upgrades? or bigger rims and tires ....
This car has all of that and more ...
So ... just stop beating a dead horse ... either way ... it's going to be sold ... who cares what "generation" it is ... never in the past have I heard so much complaining about a stupid topic ... if the C6 moniker is going to prevent a purchase ... that is plain ol' stupid ...
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[Modified by AP, 5:06 PM 12/3/2003]
Let's put it this way ...
The engine is different ...
The interior is different ...
The exterior is different ...
The car has new features ...
Why then is is only a modded C5?
A modded C5 would imply a body kit? or Stereo Upgrades? or bigger rims and tires ....
This car has all of that and more ...
So ... just stop beating a dead horse ... either way ... it's going to be sold ... who cares what "generation" it is ... never in the past have I heard so much complaining about a stupid topic ... if the C6 moniker is going to prevent a purchase ... that is plain ol' stupid ...
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[Modified by AP, 5:06 PM 12/3/2003]
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Re: There is no C6 (67ratrag)
You own a C5, don't you?
As far as the world is concerned ... this is the C6 ...
Think about this for a moment ... in 2004 ... the new Ford Mustang will be released ...
This picture shows the new car along with the old one ... Ford tout's it as the next generation Mustang, yet it's style and looks are from the 60's?
Same with the C6 ... GM took a great selling car ... in the C5 ... and sharpend the lines like a C3 ...
A new generation is not all about looks, it is about the overall package ... and the package that is the C5 is different than the C6 ... more on the inside than on the outside ...
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Re: There is no C6 (67ratrag)
I have an observation. If the cars from 1953-62 were all called the C1 due to a similar chassis/engine evolution (hence them being lumped together as "straight axles"), then the "new" car due out next year does not deserve a new designation. It is merely a reskinned C5 with minor modifications. So we should still call it a C5, or maybe a C5b like upgraded military airplanes are redesignated. But by no means should we accept this as a C6. PERIOD. I expected and wanted more. The design is by no means or by any definition innovative. When the C2 hit the streets, everybody knew its styling was unmatched. That's what I want. This design is like weak tea, a rehash of so many other people's design. A miata, camaro, viper (clown shoe), C5 hybred. Lame. GM, there are some people desperate enough for a new corvette that they will accept this as the real deal. I'll wait. :sad:
[Modified by 67ratrag, 3:55 PM 12/3/2003]
[Modified by 67ratrag, 3:55 PM 12/3/2003]
I'm actually glad you won't get a C6 , because it will be easier to get a C6 since there will be more supply.
[Modified by Butta, 2:49 PM 12/3/2003]
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Re: There is no C6 (67ratrag)
If this is not a new generation of Corvette, then why will the plant have to shut down and re-tool? Why? Because it is a new car, new chassis, and all. If you can put a C6 skin on a C5 and if you can interchange other chassis and suspension components, then I agree. What I see here is a person that sees cars that look similar and can't grasp the total picture. Its not just looks.
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Re: There is no C6 (Butta)
Hey everyone, this is my maiden post, so wish me luck! :D
In regards to 67ratrag's post...C'mon!
You could make this argument with the C5 too. As one guy pointed out in another post, the C5 looks very very similar to the C4. From far away, they might as well be the same. The major differences between them are the same differences between the C5 and C6: Just about new everything in regards to internals, chassis design, etc, but with a body design that has been "tweaked" so to speak. Are we only at the C4 version 3? Nah... but that's for another thread.
In regards to 67ratrag's post...C'mon!
You could make this argument with the C5 too. As one guy pointed out in another post, the C5 looks very very similar to the C4. From far away, they might as well be the same. The major differences between them are the same differences between the C5 and C6: Just about new everything in regards to internals, chassis design, etc, but with a body design that has been "tweaked" so to speak. Are we only at the C4 version 3? Nah... but that's for another thread.
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Re: There is no C6 (67ratrag)
I'll wait. :sad:
So much is being said about C5.5 this and that...and the bottom line is you cannot please everyone.
Personally, if they took the C5 and changed the major beefs that most of us have with them, that would be one heck of a car
- lighter, shorter
- more power
- different headlights
- better Z51 options (different tranny is now an option)
- bigger rims 18/19
- available power top for those that want
- nicer interior
... list goes on.
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Re: There is no C6 (67ratrag)
I have an observation. If the cars from 1953-62 were all called the C1 due to a similar chassis/engine evolution (hence them being lumped together as "straight axles"), then the "new" car due out next year does not deserve a new designation. It is merely a reskinned C5 with minor modifications. So we should still call it a C5, or maybe a C5b like upgraded military airplanes are redesignated. But by no means should we accept this as a C6. PERIOD. I expected and wanted more. The design is by no means or by any definition innovative. When the C2 hit the streets, everybody knew its styling was unmatched. That's what I want. This design is like weak tea, a rehash of so many other people's design. A miata, camaro, viper (clown shoe), C5 hybred. Lame. GM, there are some people desperate enough for a new corvette that they will accept this as the real deal. I'll wait. :sad:
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Re: There is no C6 (67ratrag)
I have an observation. If the cars from 1953-62 were all called the C1 due to a similar chassis/engine evolution (hence them being lumped together as "straight axles"), then the "new" car due out next year does not deserve a new designation. It is merely a reskinned C5 with minor modifications. So we should still call it a C5, or maybe a C5b like upgraded military airplanes are redesignated. But by no means should we accept this as a C6. PERIOD. I expected and wanted more. The design is by no means or by any definition innovative. When the C2 hit the streets, everybody knew its styling was unmatched. That's what I want. This design is like weak tea, a rehash of so many other people's design. A miata, camaro, viper (clown shoe), C5 hybred. Lame. GM, there are some people desperate enough for a new corvette that they will accept this as the real deal. I'll wait. :sad:
[Modified by 67ratrag, 3:55 PM 12/3/2003]
[Modified by 67ratrag, 3:55 PM 12/3/2003]
Like someone else said, you can't please everyone. I don't totally dislike the new C6 but then again I won't be going out and buying one either.
To each their own....
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Re: There is no C6 (Arnie)
There is no spoon
There's a difference between
knowing the path, and walking the path.
The latest generation of Jaguar sedan looks nearly the same as the last generation, but it is a new car from the similar body down to the drivetrain. And mechanically better than the last generation in every way. Just like the C6 Corvette.
Personally, I'm NOT looking for a drastic change in the C6 Corvette, because the C5 already looked good, and frankly most of the the really different automotive designs, like the Caddy CTS, Aztek, and BMW 7 Series look awkward to me. Whereas the C6 (from what I've seen) looks like a nicely evolved design from the C5 Corvette. And I prefer evolution to revolution where cars are concerned. :yesnod: :cool:
There's a difference between
knowing the path, and walking the path.
The latest generation of Jaguar sedan looks nearly the same as the last generation, but it is a new car from the similar body down to the drivetrain. And mechanically better than the last generation in every way. Just like the C6 Corvette.
Personally, I'm NOT looking for a drastic change in the C6 Corvette, because the C5 already looked good, and frankly most of the the really different automotive designs, like the Caddy CTS, Aztek, and BMW 7 Series look awkward to me. Whereas the C6 (from what I've seen) looks like a nicely evolved design from the C5 Corvette. And I prefer evolution to revolution where cars are concerned. :yesnod: :cool:
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Re: There is no C6 (Dean McManis)
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Re: There is no C6 (67ratrag)
This "Does it really warrant a next gen" crap is getting too old for me to tolerate. First, the Gen #s are assigned by GM. It's their car, their gen. Second, there is no logic in gen # assignment so stop trying to find it.
IF the logic was body change, the Gens would follow something like this:
53-55 Gen I
56-60 Gen II (some would want to change gen with quad HL)
61-62 Gen III
63-67 Gen IV
68-73 Gen V (some argument here, no doubt)
74-77 Gen VI
78-82 Gen VII (another argument here probably)
84-90 Gen VII
91-96 Gen VIII
97-04 Gen IX
05- Gen X
If the logic was chassis changes, the Gens would follow something like this:
53-62 Gen I
63-82 Gen II
84-96 Gen III
97-04 Gen IV
05- Gen V (Folks the chassis is DIFFERENT!!!)
If the logic was most significant engine changes:
53-54 Gen I
55-65 Gen II (V8 small block)
65-74 Gen III (Big block era)
75-82 Gen IV (Fed restriction years - smog / economy)
84-88 Gen V (L98 era)
89-95 Gen VI (ZR-1 era)
96 Gen VII (LT4)
97-00 Gen VIII (LS1 era)
01-04 Gen IX (LS6 era)
05 Gen X (LS2)
06- Gen XI (LS7 era)
To me the above proves there is NO logic to the vette generations. If you don't disagree with the above, GM can call it what ever they want. By the way in all three scenarios, the 05 vette is different enough from the 04 to move up a generation no matter what the number assigned.
IF the logic was body change, the Gens would follow something like this:
53-55 Gen I
56-60 Gen II (some would want to change gen with quad HL)
61-62 Gen III
63-67 Gen IV
68-73 Gen V (some argument here, no doubt)
74-77 Gen VI
78-82 Gen VII (another argument here probably)
84-90 Gen VII
91-96 Gen VIII
97-04 Gen IX
05- Gen X
If the logic was chassis changes, the Gens would follow something like this:
53-62 Gen I
63-82 Gen II
84-96 Gen III
97-04 Gen IV
05- Gen V (Folks the chassis is DIFFERENT!!!)
If the logic was most significant engine changes:
53-54 Gen I
55-65 Gen II (V8 small block)
65-74 Gen III (Big block era)
75-82 Gen IV (Fed restriction years - smog / economy)
84-88 Gen V (L98 era)
89-95 Gen VI (ZR-1 era)
96 Gen VII (LT4)
97-00 Gen VIII (LS1 era)
01-04 Gen IX (LS6 era)
05 Gen X (LS2)
06- Gen XI (LS7 era)
To me the above proves there is NO logic to the vette generations. If you don't disagree with the above, GM can call it what ever they want. By the way in all three scenarios, the 05 vette is different enough from the 04 to move up a generation no matter what the number assigned.
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Re: There is no C6 (2k3z)
Let's ban everyone who starts another "this is not the c6, this is a c5.5" thread
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Re: There is no C6 (DanielW)
Let's ban everyone who starts another "this is not the c6, this is a c5.5" thread
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Give it up. :mad
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Re: There is no C6 (LongTimer)
IF the logic was body change, the Gens would follow something like this:
53-55 Gen I
56-60 Gen II (some would want to change gen with quad HL)
61-62 Gen III
63-67 Gen IV
68-73 Gen V (some argument here, no doubt)
74-77 Gen VI
78-82 Gen VII (another argument here probably)
84-90 Gen VII
91-96 Gen VIII
97-04 Gen IX
05- Gen X
53-55 Gen I
56-60 Gen II (some would want to change gen with quad HL)
61-62 Gen III
63-67 Gen IV
68-73 Gen V (some argument here, no doubt)
74-77 Gen VI
78-82 Gen VII (another argument here probably)
84-90 Gen VII
91-96 Gen VIII
97-04 Gen IX
05- Gen X