peccles

From the rumors going around there is a good chance that next year's base C6 could
out perform the current Z06. If the 6.0L engine holds true at about 425HP/420 ft-lbs,
then can it handle as well as a Z06 if it has whatever the new sport suspension setup
will be? Seems like it could be close and I wouldn't think Chevy will price the base C6
is '04 ZO6 territory. The '05 C6 could be the Z06 coupe people have wanted.

Scissors

My guess is that GM will configure it so that the base C6 is slightly slower around a track than the '04 Z06 is. Probably via suspension and gearing.

low flyier

after the C6 is offered
will they roll out a converable the 2nd year?
then a z06-c6 in year 3 or four?
just to keep sales rolling from year to year like they did the c5's
if so i would expect the base C6 to out proform the zo6 (c5)
and the C6 zo6 will raise the bar even more to 550 hp or 600hp :eek:
because vipers ans mustanges even are all pushing the hp
so they will need to jump ahead to stay even in this market
viper is 500 now right?

1978Vette

i think at and around 500hp the limit will be set for awhile they would have to focus on making the car lighter instead of going the 500+ route.

69L79

You know, you could be burned at the stake for a comment like that. Imagine that, a "base" level Vette outperforming the Z06! IMHO, not only will the C6 out perform the Z06, but, you will able to take the top off. And, adjust the seats. :yesnod:

Save the WAVE! :seeya

Stingray Mark

Boy... I suspect all this upping in power is gonna hurt my wallet :nonod: I love what they are doing with the Vette but I hope they can keep it in the $48-55k range so us enthusiast can still afford one... If you ask me they are stretching the envelope as it is. If this upping in power as well as $$$ continues I foresee the vette becoomming a high-dollar "exotic" made in low production. :nonod: :chevy

Zivnuska

In order to create a "must have" C6, Lutz and Hill will make the base models better than the current Z06 and the 2005 Mustang. Similarly, the High Performance C6 must equal or better the Viper and Ford GT. Anything less is a big yawn. They will do it.

Jinx

I think GM's engineers will have a hard time preventing C6 from edging out C5 Z06 in highway muscle-flexing. From 10mph on up C6 should have a speed edge.

However, C6's runflats and less-extreme suspension settings will keep it a few ticks back in 10/10ths roadrunning.

It's the 2006 Z06 that'll crash C5 Z06 street value.

.Jinx

Patrick96LT4

The max HP for a C4 was 405HP (later ZR-1s). They only matched this with the C5 when the 405HP Z06 came out.

So, there are no guarantees that the first C6's will be faster than the current Z06's. In fact, I really doubt it. My bet is the C6 will debut at 385 HP.

86_RedRider

my guess, and that's all that it is, is that the base will be between 390-405. between the cobra and the Z06.

Doughan

I disagree. The ZR1 was a 30K option. I thnk a better comparison would be the LT4 versus the LS1. The LT4 was the top of the line optional engine in 96 and the LS1 beat it by 15HP. The standard engine in 96 was the LT1 which put out 300HP.

I think the LS2 will have between 415-425 HP.

We'll know in just 5 months! :cheers:

Jinx

A 2005 C6 with less than 405 horsepower is a no-sale.

C5 coupe and convertible ride on Z06's coattails. The Z06's 405 horsepower have kept it on people's radar. Nearly a quarter of Corvettes sold are Z06s. It is not a special exotic rare superformance version -- today, coupe and convertible buyers settle for 350hp.

If C6 debuts with less than 405, it will be considered a downgrade. GM ain't that stupid.

There's a horsepower war out there. With C6, GM's gonna come out with guns blazing.

.Jinx
425 in '05, 500 in '06.

Tenderfoot

I sure as hell hope so. GM are you LISTENING!

jim482

cool,
Jinx I hope you are right. Any decrease in Horsepower would be suicide to Corvette sales.....

Big Phil

We all know the '97 C5 had more hp than the '96 LT4, but how did they compare on track? Any #'s?


IMO i think anything less than 400 hp for the C6 will not be worth buying.

veXati0n

Why would GM take a step backwards? Especially with today's sports fever? C'mon, sedans are stepping up to the plate with 300hp. GM's gotta turn it up a notch. If it's not more hp, it'll be by weight, since the hp/weight ratio is the real determining factor.

GDP

Problem is, that there're very few ways to reduce teh weight from teh C5 Z06 version without introducing carbonfiber body panels, fixed headlights, and things of that nature. I don't see teh weight being trimmed a whole lot without causing a huge price jump on teh C6.

Miaugi

:iagree:


[Modified by Miaugi, 9:21 PM 7/29/2003]

Jinx

I'm sure one of the weight-saving techniques they're exploring is the repeated pointless cloying misspelling of the.

.Jinx

Patrick96LT4

In my bone-stock black LT4 vette with 19k miles (stock tires, everything) I turned 12.74, 12.75 and 12.76 back-to-back. I have 30 time slips with 12.xx times. When I was turning these times the C5's there were turning 13.3x - 13.6x.

In my GS my best time (stock) was 13.08 @ 108. It'll see 12's.

I spank older C5's in my GS, but the newer C5's pull on me slowly.