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Old 02-06-2021, 12:53 PM
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Spam the hell out of the dealership's Google reviews, Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram. Explain the issue you noticed when driving a $30K+ Vette off their lot, which you took back to them to diagnose and repair, and how they are refusing to to cover.
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Old 02-06-2021, 02:48 PM
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After reading all of this I'm not sure what the issue is. Are you saying that the ride is too hard or too soft? If too hard, I can't see how leaking shocks would cause that unless they are allowing the suspension to bottom out. Any car I've come across with bad shocks you could bounce up and down by hand.
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the F55 MSRC shocks are made to last the life of the car....... not to say they won't fail but it should be rare of the C6's.......... all 4 going out at the same time would be very unlikely.... I have read the some wet is not unusual to see on the shocks and that can't be used as a tell if the shocks are bad or not. You need to get that to a someone that knows the system and can figure out what the problems are...... There has to be someone in the Wichita area that has a Corvette tech that can help I would think..... good luck on it........
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Thanks for all of the good ideas. I will be taking the car to an Omega Repair shop once the snow and ice are gone. I am hopeful they will be objective and provide a more comprehensive diagnosis. I still think the dealership should have been willing to examine the car before dismissing me as they did. I will certainly address that once they do reimburse me for the cruise control issue, which turned out to the a clutch cable issue. I will update everyone once I can get deeper into the issue and come up with a solution. I will also be contacting Jim Mero once I have the basics figured out.
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Originally Posted by Jim Madden
Thanks for all of the good ideas. I will be taking the car to an Omega Repair shop once the snow and ice are gone. I am hopeful they will be objective and provide a more comprehensive diagnosis. I still think the dealership should have been willing to examine the car before dismissing me as they did. I will certainly address that once they do reimburse me for the cruise control issue, which turned out to the a clutch cable issue. I will update everyone once I can get deeper into the issue and come up with a solution. I will also be contacting Jim Mero once I have the basics figured out.
adding my 2cents worth on this, i just closed the case on my '09 3LT ride ( w/mag ride ). soon after having the Jim Mero upgrade installed, the ride was almost like having no shocks at all ( not quite, but close ). long story short, after about 8 months of testing and investigating, it was found that the one of the front leveling bolts, had the pad half way worn off, the other one had no pad left at all. both of the rear bolts were sheared in half. these were found while replace both transaxle mounts.
early on in the process, all ( 4 ) shocks were also replaced. i would put the main culprit on being the transaxle mounts.
once those replaced, it gave the shocks a stable & solid point of connection. this combined with new leveling bolts, has
got me back to at least where i was, if not better ( the Mero upgrade ). i've pushed it a lot harder the last 2 weekends
( club drives ) and it feels like it's on rails.
f.y.i., if you do decide to check out the leveling bolts, my rear ones, you could not tell they were broken, until you dropped the rear end. then you see the separation of the pad section from the stem ( partial of the stem, still threaded in place ).
from a static view, it looked fine.
Old 02-08-2021, 05:07 PM
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I would have boomeranged that car right back to the dealer that very drive. Just purchased and an unsettling feeling from the car? Naw, thats Chevy's problem to make it either A: Right or B: demonstrate the car vs a standard suspension.
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obviously, i can't tell how bad he condition was / is. mine would bottom out over relatively mild dips, then settle. it wasn't like the shocks kept oscillating, just one
compression / rebound cycle then it would settle out. you could also feel it in mild corning too. with noticeable body roll. as i mentioned previously, i did have new shocks installed, the front ones first as they were leaking pretty badly. the rears ones were replaced a few months later. i forgot to mention that, i had to replace the rear passenger side ride height sensor ( broken ).
this was all before it was noticed the issues with the leveling bolts & transaxle mounts. had these surfaced first, who knows, maybe the original shocks would still be in use.
guessing the transaxle mounts contributed to, if not actually causing the other problems.
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Originally Posted by Jim Madden
Thanks for all of the good ideas. I will be taking the car to an Omega Repair shop once the snow and ice are gone. I am hopeful they will be objective and provide a more comprehensive diagnosis. I still think the dealership should have been willing to examine the car before dismissing me as they did. I will certainly address that once they do reimburse me for the cruise control issue, which turned out to the a clutch cable issue. I will update everyone once I can get deeper into the issue and come up with a solution. I will also be contacting Jim Mero once I have the basics figured out.
Good luck with the troubleshooting. Just curious are you going to Omega Auto Clinic in Newton?
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These cars are only 3300 lbs, much lighter than most. The suspension is hard, grand sports are track cars made to be much stiffer. There must be a compromises
This statement is so true. I have a 2012 GS without the mag control suspension and it’s rough. My car only has a little over 17K miles on it so it’s not worn out the suspension is just stiff plus I’m running run flat tires which also ride rougher than regular tires. The car rides awesome and handles great on relatively smooth roads (which are getting hard to find in today’s world), but once you ride on a rough road with patches and small pot holes hang on because you’re in for a rough ride. I bought my car from a Chevy dealership with 3500 miles on it so it wasn’t beat to death before I got it and it lives inside a garage most of the time so it couldn’t get better care than what I give it so to say my car is in good shape would be an understatement. When I first bought it I was shocked at how rough riding it was and I even had some second thoughts about buying it because of the rough ride, but when you stop and think about it it’s a light sports car with a big engine and huge tires. They didn’t build this car to give a smooth ride. GM built it to go fast and to handle well and it does that pretty well. You have to make sacrifices to handle well and go fast in a light car and the C6 GS is no exception, it’s rough but man does it go fast and handle well! Enjoy your new to you Corvette and don’t worry about the rough ride, but do check the tire pressure and make sure the shocks aren’t leaking.


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Originally Posted by Jim Madden
I did take a short test drive but the road was in excellent shape. It was not until I was retuning home that I hit the rough roads. It became very apparent something was not right. Had the car evaluated by Hatton Chevrolet in Park City, KS. Turns out all 4 shocks are leaking and the back ones have no rebound. The dealership in Paola, KS is refusing the replace them or to assist in any way. Turns out buyer beware should be in their logo.
Mag shocks are supposed to lek a little, that's OK. They're allowed to dribble, and it be normal. Dealers will tell you they need to replace them at like 1000 bucks each. Dealers often don't know their asses from a hole in the ground.

Rough roads are tough on anything sporty. What are you coming from that you're comparing it to?
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Originally Posted by SCcues
This statement is so true. I have a 2012 GS without the mag control suspension and it’s rough. My car only has a little over 17K miles on it so it’s not worn out the suspension is just stiff plus I’m running run flat tires which also ride rougher than regular tires. The car rides awesome and handles great on relatively smooth roads (which are getting hard to find in today’s world), but once you ride on a rough road with patches and small pot holes hang on because you’re in for a rough ride. I bought my car from a Chevy dealership with 3500 miles on it so it wasn’t beat to death before I got it and it lives inside a garage most of the time so it couldn’t get better care than what I give it so to say my car is in good shape would be an understatement. When I first bought it I was shocked at how rough riding it was and I even had some second thoughts about buying it because of the rough ride, but when you stop and think about it it’s a light sports car with a big engine and huge tires. They didn’t build this car to give a smooth ride. GM built it to go fast and to handle well and it does that pretty well. You have to make sacrifices to handle well and go fast in a light car and the C6 GS is no exception, it’s rough but man does it go fast and handle well! Enjoy your new to you Corvette and don’t worry about the rough ride, but do check the tire pressure and make sure the shocks aren’t leaking.


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Well with only 3500 miles, your car is probably close to stock. I too have a 12 gs, my impression was the ride is soft but it corners flat. My previous car was a Z51 equipped base model from 2008 and its ride was much firmer and it leaned more in the turns. I've had both on race tracks, so plenty of opportunity to explore the limits of both, and had run flats on both. Honestly, the ride isn't that much different between tire types. Everyone complains about the GY tires, but they really are not that bad if treated correctly, IOW, warm tires ar the correct inflation levels. I swapped out my sway bars and shocks for JOC to change the front-seat bias and get some adjustability as I found the acceleration oversteer on corner exits a bit unsettling, so be careful with it and keep the nannies on. The Z06 is even more so with its extra power and lighter weight.



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