Service Charging System?
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Service Charging System?
Hey folks,
2006 Corvette Z51, 3LT, manual transmission, 88,000 miles.
About a week a go, I was driving and dropped the hammer to redline through 1st and 2nd gear and I noticed the volt gauge drop to about 11 volts, it went back to normal about 14.3 volts, then the service charging system on the DIC came on. I have read all the threads on this, checked grounds, alternator, battery and starter are fine. Horn works, fuses good, no dimming of lights, usually the first signs of bad alternator. I have turned on all electronics, lights, a/c on high and it doesn't happen, only when I gun it! It starts fine as well. I am just stumped at what else it can be, no codes. Everything charges fine at idle, normal driving, only does this when I gun it.
I hope someone can help, can't enjoy the drive if I am wondering if she is going to die on me.
Thanks in advance,
JDawg
2006 Corvette Z51, 3LT, manual transmission, 88,000 miles.
About a week a go, I was driving and dropped the hammer to redline through 1st and 2nd gear and I noticed the volt gauge drop to about 11 volts, it went back to normal about 14.3 volts, then the service charging system on the DIC came on. I have read all the threads on this, checked grounds, alternator, battery and starter are fine. Horn works, fuses good, no dimming of lights, usually the first signs of bad alternator. I have turned on all electronics, lights, a/c on high and it doesn't happen, only when I gun it! It starts fine as well. I am just stumped at what else it can be, no codes. Everything charges fine at idle, normal driving, only does this when I gun it.
I hope someone can help, can't enjoy the drive if I am wondering if she is going to die on me.
Thanks in advance,
JDawg
Last edited by JDawg; 03-06-2020 at 04:14 PM.
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Mad*Max (03-07-2020)
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Burning Brakes
I have the same issue after changing several alternators the warning still comes on every time I start the car. Charging voltage is good at 14.4V
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JDawg (03-07-2020)
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I had this issue and have it again. First time mine would do it it was a wire in the alternator that when I got on it would spread from centrifugal force and contact the stater.
This time it just comes on immediately when I start the car. I think it is the starter connection to the starter wires. Going to scotchbrite and clean the posts to see if that is the answer.
This time it just comes on immediately when I start the car. I think it is the starter connection to the starter wires. Going to scotchbrite and clean the posts to see if that is the answer.
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Safety Car
I had this issue and have it again. First time mine would do it it was a wire in the alternator that when I got on it would spread from centrifugal force and contact the stater.
This time it just comes on immediately when I start the car. I think it is the starter connection to the starter wires. Going to scotchbrite and clean the posts to see if that is the answer.
This time it just comes on immediately when I start the car. I think it is the starter connection to the starter wires. Going to scotchbrite and clean the posts to see if that is the answer.
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JDawg (03-07-2020)
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I had this issue and have it again. First time mine would do it it was a wire in the alternator that when I got on it would spread from centrifugal force and contact the stater.
This time it just comes on immediately when I start the car. I think it is the starter connection to the starter wires. Going to scotchbrite and clean the posts to see if that is the answer.
This time it just comes on immediately when I start the car. I think it is the starter connection to the starter wires. Going to scotchbrite and clean the posts to see if that is the answer.
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Thanks for taking the time to reply, this is driving me crazy. I have put a lot of sweat, blood and profanity in to this car, to get her running like new. Oh, I forgot, alot of Benjamins too!
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Instructor
On my a4, got the same message, turned out to be loose and ultimately broken transmission cable link to the shifter (under the console). Pain to remove the console, but worth the check so you don't get stranded.!
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JDawg (03-10-2020)
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I took the starter cables off Sunday and cleaned them, but no dice. They did need to be cleaned though and I ordered a starter just in case, not looking forward to installing it. I think I am going to look into the alternator before replacing the starter though.
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Instructor
i was getting all the same service charging system messages and symptoms. Then the shifter cable bushing gave out. Im guessing that it was loose and on it's way out. Check that first, it seems more daunting than it is, but way easier than changing the starter first. Maybe you dropped the 🔨 a little too hard...thor. Yours is an m6, but I'm guessing the linkage might be similar.
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums/c6-tech-performance/3372584-diy-2005-a4-shifter-cable-repair.html
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums/c6-tech-performance/3372584-diy-2005-a4-shifter-cable-repair.html
Last edited by FactoryZ51; 03-10-2020 at 05:07 PM.
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i was getting all the same service charging system messages and symptoms. Then the shifter cable bushing gave out. Im guessing that it was loose and on it's way out. Check that first, it seems more daunting than it is, but way easier than changing the starter first. Maybe you dropped the 🔨 a little too hard...thor. Yours is an m6, but I'm guessing the linkage might be similar.
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...le-repair.html
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...le-repair.html
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I had that issue and ended up being two fold, the cable on the starter end was black and on the positive end, also the starter solenoid melted.
I replaced the battery cables and the starter and no more issues.
I replaced the battery cables and the starter and no more issues.
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JDawg (03-11-2020)
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I am not very good with electrical stuff, but there are some obvious things I see. The center shaft bushing cracked and the electrical contacts looked corroded. Would appreciate some input on this and some knowledge if I should buy an alternator or have someone rebuild it.
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Slip rings look like they can still be cleaned up/still useable, Brushes look fine but would contact clean out the housing to make make sure they are not bind in the channels at higher RPM's.
As for the rest, basic cleaning with a little dielectric grease to make sure you have good connections across the board.
And if the coil winding plastic Cage was broken, would not be getting higher voltage even at lower RPM's. Same for bad grounding connection of the alternator to the bracket and motor.
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...nator-fix.html
As for the rest, basic cleaning with a little dielectric grease to make sure you have good connections across the board.
And if the coil winding plastic Cage was broken, would not be getting higher voltage even at lower RPM's. Same for bad grounding connection of the alternator to the bracket and motor.
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...nator-fix.html