Intermittantly recognized key fob
#1
Intermittantly recognized key fob
Just got my 2008 convertible out of winter storage here in Chicagoland area. My key fob is erratic. Sometimes it can unlock and lock the car from30 feet away, other times it will only do it right next to the car. Sometimes I can unlock the door, but it won't recognize the key fob to start the car. I have replaced its battery. I have only owned the vette for two years, and have had issues with the fob since I bought the car.
Since the key fob is recognized at times by the car, I assume it is not a programming issue but perhaps the fob has been abused or wore out?
Suggestions on how to proceed? Buy new fob internals from ebay? Buy new fob from dealer? ??
Since the key fob is recognized at times by the car, I assume it is not a programming issue but perhaps the fob has been abused or wore out?
Suggestions on how to proceed? Buy new fob internals from ebay? Buy new fob from dealer? ??
#2
Instructor
I battled a similar issue for 3 weeks. I was able to unlock and lock by pressing the button on either fob. The car wouldn’t start and I would get the NO FOBS DETECTED message. But after several attempts the car would then start usually. But then I would get a similar message when shutting the car down. Also the Auto Unlock on approach feature would work intermittently. I replaced fob batteries as that is the most common issue. I replaced the battery under the hood when that didn’t work. I made sure that I didn’t have my cell phone in the area as some say they have experienced interference. I also checked the antenna connections (glove box slot, rear hatch area, and both B pillars) with no luck. I checked fuses under the hood and in the passenger foot well. I checked the terminal connections as well as the connections on the BCM. And nothing. I tried the fob programming process and the fobs were listed as recongnized fobs. For some strange reason I decided to pull my radio and courtesy light fuses in the passenger foot well and the fobs worked with zero issues consistently. And I realized that LED replacement bulbs were the culprit. I swithched them back to stock and no more issues. My issue was LED bulbs. But the others above seem to be the more common and easy to check areas that may be causing your issue.
#3
Team Owner
Just got my 2008 convertible out of winter storage here in Chicagoland area. My key fob is erratic. Sometimes it can unlock and lock the car from30 feet away, other times it will only do it right next to the car. Sometimes I can unlock the door, but it won't recognize the key fob to start the car. I have replaced its battery. I have only owned the vette for two years, and have had issues with the fob since I bought the car.
Since the key fob is recognized at times by the car, I assume it is not a programming issue but perhaps the fob has been abused or wore out?
Suggestions on how to proceed? Buy new fob internals from ebay? Buy new fob from dealer? ??
Since the key fob is recognized at times by the car, I assume it is not a programming issue but perhaps the fob has been abused or wore out?
Suggestions on how to proceed? Buy new fob internals from ebay? Buy new fob from dealer? ??
If the symptoms still exist after installing the new fob batteries, follow other suggestions.
#4
Instructor
I did the same. Also look for battery replacement with a smooth negative side rather than textured. There are some brands that have dimples or texture to the negative side of the battery. Many have reported that those do not provide adequate contact with the prongs on the fob to deliver proper voltage. Proper voltage should be 3v. You can test the battery you purchase prior to install to ensure proper voltage.
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tahitibluemg (04-01-2018)
#5
Intermediate
There have been a lot of NEW fob batteries that were bad. As cheap as fob batteries are, go somewhere that sells many of them and buy some more fob batteries. There's no way to know how old the fob batteries were when you first bought the car. Yes, I realize you said you already replaced the battery in the fob, but do it again.
If the symptoms still exist after installing the new fob batteries, follow other suggestions.
If the symptoms still exist after installing the new fob batteries, follow other suggestions.
#7
I traced an unlock problem to a bad door opener pad. All my no-start/no-fob-detected issues have been traceable to rf interference. Once it was parked close to the automatic door at UPS, once it was a new 12v/USB adapter in the console, and several times it was I set my iphone in the cupholder before pushing the start button.
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tahitibluemg (04-02-2018)
#8
I'm tellin' you for a fact, if you don't know the fob battery is greater than 3 volts, replace the fob battery with a "known" fresh battery. Ask me how I know this. I battled this intermittent problem for 3-1/2 years until I figured out I had bought a handful of CR2032 batteries that were nearly dead. I was feeding my fob with mostly dead batteries. Buy them at a store that sells this battery often enough to order and keep on hand fresh ones.
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#9
Intermediate
There have been a lot of NEW fob batteries that were bad. As cheap as fob batteries are, go somewhere that sells many of them and buy some more fob batteries. There's no way to know how old the fob batteries were when you first bought the car. Yes, I realize you said you already replaced the battery in the fob, but do it again.
If the symptoms still exist after installing the new fob batteries, follow other suggestions.
If the symptoms still exist after installing the new fob batteries, follow other suggestions.
#10
Intermediate
I did the same. Also look for battery replacement with a smooth negative side rather than textured. There are some brands that have dimples or texture to the negative side of the battery. Many have reported that those do not provide adequate contact with the prongs on the fob to deliver proper voltage. Proper voltage should be 3v. You can test the battery you purchase prior to install to ensure proper voltage.
#11
Intermediate
key fob intermittant
Thanks for the advice everyone. I put a fresh battery in with 3.3 volts and sanded the battery surfaces as well as the contacts in the key fob for the battery. I also think that a culprit is the fob case doesn't close as effectively, or tightly as when new, so perhaps those teeny contact arms on the circuit board aren't contacting all the time, thereby making it intermittant. I plan to purchase a new black plastic cover that will snap together more tightly.
#13
Race Director
Thanks for the advice everyone. I put a fresh battery in with 3.3 volts and sanded the battery surfaces as well as the contacts in the key fob for the battery. I also think that a culprit is the fob case doesn't close as effectively, or tightly as when new, so perhaps those teeny contact arms on the circuit board aren't contacting all the time, thereby making it intermittant. I plan to purchase a new black plastic cover that will snap together more tightly.
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I battled a similar issue for 3 weeks. I was able to unlock and lock by pressing the button on either fob. The car wouldn’t start and I would get the NO FOBS DETECTED message. But after several attempts the car would then start usually. But then I would get a similar message when shutting the car down. Also the Auto Unlock on approach feature would work intermittently. I replaced fob batteries as that is the most common issue. I replaced the battery under the hood when that didn’t work. I made sure that I didn’t have my cell phone in the area as some say they have experienced interference. I also checked the antenna connections (glove box slot, rear hatch area, and both B pillars) with no luck. I checked fuses under the hood and in the passenger foot well. I checked the terminal connections as well as the connections on the BCM. And nothing. I tried the fob programming process and the fobs were listed as recongnized fobs. For some strange reason I decided to pull my radio and courtesy light fuses in the passenger foot well and the fobs worked with zero issues consistently. And I realized that LED replacement bulbs were the culprit. I swithched them back to stock and no more issues. My issue was LED bulbs. But the others above seem to be the more common and easy to check areas that may be causing your issue.
My 2011 GS with 6000 miles lies dead in a Chevy dealership with the fob issue. They have replaced the receiver above the radio and no fix, batteries ok. There have been no LED bulb replacements in car or bulbs of any kind. My question to you is when you installed new bulbs and replaced the fuses did the Fobs work ok? The Chevy dealer has been in communication with GM and they seem to be of little help.
#17
Intermediate
I finally figured out the issue with the intermittantly reognized key fob. Prior owner opened the fob case and broke the 'latches' on the plastic so that it was not totally completely closed, thereby causing the battery to lose contact. I solved the problem by putting two small plastic zip ties over the case, keeping it tightly closed. Even bending the battery contacts up didn't work.