Wheel Spin
#21
Well thats interesting. Mine is making the stock 400 HP which is enough to breaks tires loose easily in a 3200 # vehicle. Mine will smoke em easily with T/C off. But with the T/C on it will only break loose for a nanu second and then squat and go. Are you sure your traction control is working properly ? I don't believe the tires should spin hardly at all if it is. Heck...maybe mines not working correctly. Sounds like a good question.....how many people can smoke their tires with their traction control "ON"??
#22
Race Director
Well thats interesting. Mine is making the stock 400 HP which is enough to breaks tires loose easily in a 3200 # vehicle. Mine will smoke em easily with T/C off. But with the T/C on it will only break loose for a nanu second and then squat and go. Are you sure your traction control is working properly ? I don't believe the tires should spin hardly at all if it is. Heck...maybe mines not working correctly. Sounds like a good question.....how many people can smoke their tires with their traction control "ON"??
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When I was bone stock with OEM RF's, I could launch at the track or street with TC off and not spin, even in 50* temps and running mid-12's. Then with 14K miles, a tune and CAI, it started spinning a bit when running low 12's. The original tires kept getting worse, more so on the street, but new Invos returned the dead hook. After a few more mods I went to DR's for the track and the Invos started to spin on the street. A new set of Invos cured the street problem, but eventually also gave up. More mods and different brands later that worked good for the first 10K miles, but couldn't handle it much longer. Currently on Mich SS with about 10K and they won't hold a 1st gear punch from 20 on hot pavement.
I'm only at 394 rwhp , but you can see that most any tire will work well when new, yet suck long before the the tread is gone.
I'm only at 394 rwhp , but you can see that most any tire will work well when new, yet suck long before the the tread is gone.
#26
Burning Brakes
I just went to pilot super sports after buying the car with older, hardened BFG in the back. I used to be able to light them up at will without really trying to even with traction control on. It wouldn't take long for it to bring me back though if I didn't lift. Now with the new tires I find it takes me doing it on purpose to break them loose. New tires made a night and day difference.
#27
Le Mans Master
Well thats interesting. Mine is making the stock 400 HP which is enough to breaks tires loose easily in a 3200 # vehicle. Mine will smoke em easily with T/C off. But with the T/C on it will only break loose for a nanu second and then squat and go. Are you sure your traction control is working properly ? I don't believe the tires should spin hardly at all if it is. Heck...maybe mines not working correctly. Sounds like a good question.....how many people can smoke their tires with their traction control "ON"??
it will blow the tires away with traction control on and eventually pull enough power to hook
I have to roll into the throttle and even then it is spinning a bit till it hooks , then it bogs a bit as the TC is pulling power , 2nd gear it would break them free again ....
Hoxxoh has been giving me ideas on how to launch and I have been getting better , Also under his direction I removed my TRANS TUNE as I think it was shifting way to hard a shocking the tires on the gear change
Dave
#28
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Yep. I've been doing a lot of research and I've decided on FireStones. Cant beat that price. If someone has a better quality vs price tire please let me know.
#29
I am not stock , I have Headers , Intake , Ported Throttle body and a street tune ... I am sure my TC is working because if I turn it off it does not hook at all
it will blow the tires away with traction control on and eventually pull enough power to hook
I have to roll into the throttle and even then it is spinning a bit till it hooks , then it bogs a bit as the TC is pulling power , 2nd gear it would break them free again ....
Hoxxoh has been giving me ideas on how to launch and I have been getting better , Also under his direction I removed my TRANS TUNE as I think it was shifting way to hard a shocking the tires on the gear change
Dave
it will blow the tires away with traction control on and eventually pull enough power to hook
I have to roll into the throttle and even then it is spinning a bit till it hooks , then it bogs a bit as the TC is pulling power , 2nd gear it would break them free again ....
Hoxxoh has been giving me ideas on how to launch and I have been getting better , Also under his direction I removed my TRANS TUNE as I think it was shifting way to hard a shocking the tires on the gear change
Dave
#31
Le Mans Master
Dave
#32
Le Mans Master
Here is a video of no traction control , my buddy drives right around me when I try to pedal it , it got real scary on the 1 2 shift as you can see
And here is one using HOXXOH's method.. Drive around the water , do a quick blip to clean the tires , just brake torque it to 1,500 and roll into the throttle with one exception , I have to keep TC on ...
You will see during the burnout , if I just mash the pedal with TC on it blazes the tires and they are not that old at all ....
I am going to invest in a set of drag radials
Dave
And here is one using HOXXOH's method.. Drive around the water , do a quick blip to clean the tires , just brake torque it to 1,500 and roll into the throttle with one exception , I have to keep TC on ...
You will see during the burnout , if I just mash the pedal with TC on it blazes the tires and they are not that old at all ....
I am going to invest in a set of drag radials
Dave
#34
Le Mans Master
#35
So Ive had my Vette for a few weeks now. Finally feeling comfortable to go WOT. Problem is no matter how slowly I rollin into 1st-2nd I cannot escape wheel spin. Is it just as simple as the stock Eagle RFs not hooking? Or is there just too much torque to avoid spinning?
Edit: On the road that is... not track.
Edit: On the road that is... not track.
same exact thing happened to me, got new MPSS non runflats, won't spin out on the street ever now
#36
Le Mans Master
They are better but .....
Dave
#37
Safety Car
I have gone 1.76 60ft on the stock Goodyears.with age and wear the traction goes away just like any other tire made.what are you getting for 60ft with the MPSS?
Last edited by irok; 07-04-2017 at 08:37 AM.
#38
Le Mans Master
1.9 - 2.0 with traction control on .... no brake torque , rolling into the throttle , ECM is pulling power till they hook ...
I can't launch them hard or I blow them away .....you are 100% correct... when new they were like glue ....
Buying drag radials . Just need some rims ....
Dave
#39
Safety Car
still working on my "Driver Mod" ....
1.9 - 2.0 with traction control on .... no brake torque , rolling into the throttle , ECM is pulling power till they hook ...
I can't launch them hard or I blow them away .....you are 100% correct... when new they were like glue ....
Buying drag radials . Just need some rims ....
Dave
1.9 - 2.0 with traction control on .... no brake torque , rolling into the throttle , ECM is pulling power till they hook ...
I can't launch them hard or I blow them away .....you are 100% correct... when new they were like glue ....
Buying drag radials . Just need some rims ....
Dave
Last edited by irok; 07-04-2017 at 09:53 AM.
#40
Le Mans Master
Don't forget I am on run flats also ......
No excuse but its well known that our track is not prepped well on Friday night test and tune , they do a better job on Saturday bracket races
I turned TC off two weeks ago and scared the crap out of myself ... got it out of the hole pretty good but then all hell let loose as the engine came on the powerband , tried to pedal it but it was to late to save the run .....
I don't want to put it into the wall so I am just going save myself a lot of trouble and wait to get drag radials before i turn off TC again ....
I am just doing this for fun and running 12- 12.2 with my grocery getter is still a bunch of fun lol
Dave