A history of my Corvette struggles.
12-29-2016, 02:32 AM
#21
OCD Dealerships
Dealerships have always been the weak link in GM car ownership. Some are very good but many are what I call OCD dealerships. (Oil change dealerships) A bad dealership will cause a very positive experience with a new car into a nightmare in a single visit and GM does little to help...sad
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Vette Lag (12-29-2016)
12-29-2016, 07:32 AM
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After the first engine replacement I would be trading that car in.
12-29-2016, 10:04 AM
#24
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I would have gotten out of that particular Corvette far sooner. 
I had to Lemon-Law a Honda Accord a while back. It was a PITA, but worth it in the long run.
I had to Lemon-Law a Honda Accord a while back. It was a PITA, but worth it in the long run.
12-29-2016, 10:21 AM
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OP:
These cars sometimes just seem like they were built under an unlucky star. My friend recently bought a Z06 C7 all larded up with equipment to sticker just a hair under $100k. Within a few weeks, he needed a new engine. Then, after replacement, he needed a whole transmission.
Getting it back, he noted the paint was now peeling off. Seeing the mess he'd gotten into, he bailed at a fire sale price while still under warranty and bought a Porsche.
He has no dealer gripes either. It was just one bad car like the one in the OP although I wonder why the OP has had THREE engines. I wonder if it's somehow owner affected.
These cars sometimes just seem like they were built under an unlucky star. My friend recently bought a Z06 C7 all larded up with equipment to sticker just a hair under $100k. Within a few weeks, he needed a new engine. Then, after replacement, he needed a whole transmission.
Getting it back, he noted the paint was now peeling off. Seeing the mess he'd gotten into, he bailed at a fire sale price while still under warranty and bought a Porsche.
He has no dealer gripes either. It was just one bad car like the one in the OP although I wonder why the OP has had THREE engines. I wonder if it's somehow owner affected.
12-29-2016, 11:17 AM
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one would think that the 3 engine replacements mentioned would have led the owner to seek legal actions through the Lemon Laws???
also, why would it have taken so many trips to a dealer where you weren't satisfied before seeking another facility??
granted, there are a lot of poor dealership service departments around, but there also are some known for quality work at fair prices in each and every large metropolitan area....................
12-29-2016, 11:22 AM
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12-29-2016, 11:41 AM
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I am not sure what you mean, but this has been almost like a perfect horror story. I did not want Chevrolet to buy the car back, because as you all know, big engines are a thing of the past. I wanted to keep this car until it rotted away. I am a huge Corvette fan, I even wrote an unpublished book about the Corvette. It took me over a year to get all the facts, pictures, engine history, and all the details of the book. I have given copies to friends, and I am having one of the local printing shops, make it into a bound book for me. I love the Corvette. I am just so sick of dealer treatment of Corvette owners, that I have read about here, and heard from local owners. My friend, just had the valve failure happen to his Z06, and it blew 2 holes in the block. I feel I have been duped by Chevrolet. I just want to enjoy my car ownership, and drive the car, and enjoy it. It is an unbelievably fast, amazing car to drive, and own. I get thumbs up everywhere. I just want the dealerships to take a real stance, and send me away feeling, they have done their best. I have never felt this way. I have owned about 12 new GM cars, in the last 18 years. This includes a Hummer H2, a Cadillac STS-4, 2 new Corvettes, 2 new Camaro Z28's. I just feel crappy about the issues I've had. Sorry about the, "I feel sorry for me" attitude.
12-29-2016, 11:54 AM
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OP:
These cars sometimes just seem like they were built under an unlucky star. My friend recently bought a Z06 C7 all larded up with equipment to sticker just a hair under $100k. Within a few weeks, he needed a new engine. Then, after replacement, he needed a whole transmission.
Getting it back, he noted the paint was now peeling off. Seeing the mess he'd gotten into, he bailed at a fire sale price while still under warranty and bought a Porsche.
He has no dealer gripes either. It was just one bad car like the one in the OP although I wonder why the OP has had THREE engines. I wonder if it's somehow owner affected.
These cars sometimes just seem like they were built under an unlucky star. My friend recently bought a Z06 C7 all larded up with equipment to sticker just a hair under $100k. Within a few weeks, he needed a new engine. Then, after replacement, he needed a whole transmission.
Getting it back, he noted the paint was now peeling off. Seeing the mess he'd gotten into, he bailed at a fire sale price while still under warranty and bought a Porsche.
He has no dealer gripes either. It was just one bad car like the one in the OP although I wonder why the OP has had THREE engines. I wonder if it's somehow owner affected.
My LS6, in my 2002 Z06, was raced, driven hard like a maniac, pushed so hard, I should've been arrested. It never winced. It took all the abuse I could throw at it. It was one wicked beast, but the engine never failed.
This LS7 car, I have almost babied, and these problems still arose.
You guys have a wonderful New Year, and I hope your Corvette, dealership, and Chevrolet experience, is better than mine.
Last edited by Vette Lag; 12-29-2016 at 12:33 PM.
12-29-2016, 12:11 PM
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Thanks. I appreciate your understanding. I just want to say, to one of the replies here, I took it to dealerships that spread over nearly 100 miles apart, same old thing. I don't want the car to be a buy back, as new 427 convertibles are no longer available. It was just a post about the troubles I had with a new Corvette, on a Corvette forum. I am a highly trained Aeronautical/Mechanical/Manufacturing Engineer, and a company should never allow problems like the ones with the LS7 to continue. This is my opinion, as a person who sees everyday, expensive, complicated and large volume parts being produced, without this kind of PQDR's. We call them Product Quality Deficiency Reports. They have to be answered by the manufacturer, as we install them on our products. We never let even a single part go, that is deficient, without reimbursement, and explanation.
12-29-2016, 12:30 PM
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I hope this will satisfy your curiosity, because I am sure, you will not find what you're looking for in my reply. I sense negative sarcasm in your post.
I will put it to you in the simplest of ways. The first engine froze up, on the freeway at 65 mph, with 11,000 miles on the odometer.
The second engine failed, 1700 miles later, due to the fact that the dealership did not follow the instructions the assembly plant engineer instructed them to do, replace the dry sump system. The dealership only hot-washed it with oil, and reinstalled it.
The third engine, at 60,000 miles, 43,000 miles past the second engine failure, is running perfectly. So in all honesty, I feel only one engine actually failed due to quality issues.
I will put it to you in the simplest of ways. The first engine froze up, on the freeway at 65 mph, with 11,000 miles on the odometer.
The second engine failed, 1700 miles later, due to the fact that the dealership did not follow the instructions the assembly plant engineer instructed them to do, replace the dry sump system. The dealership only hot-washed it with oil, and reinstalled it.
The third engine, at 60,000 miles, 43,000 miles past the second engine failure, is running perfectly. So in all honesty, I feel only one engine actually failed due to quality issues.
12-29-2016, 12:44 PM
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Edited your response just to say continued good luck with your 427 convertible! Glad to see one is actually driven like intended!
truly amazing cars........................
12-29-2016, 01:08 PM
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I hope this will satisfy your curiosity, because I am sure, you will not find what you're looking for in my reply. I sense negative sarcasm in your post.
I will put it to you in the simplest of ways. The first engine froze up, on the freeway at 65 mph, with 11,000 miles on the odometer.
The second engine failed, 1700 miles later, due to the fact that the dealership did not follow the instructions the assembly plant engineer instructed them to do, replace the dry sump system. The dealership only hot-washed it with oil, and reinstalled it.
The third engine, at 60,000 miles, 43,000 miles past the second engine failure, is running perfectly. So in all honesty, I feel only one engine actually failed due to quality issues.
I will put it to you in the simplest of ways. The first engine froze up, on the freeway at 65 mph, with 11,000 miles on the odometer.
The second engine failed, 1700 miles later, due to the fact that the dealership did not follow the instructions the assembly plant engineer instructed them to do, replace the dry sump system. The dealership only hot-washed it with oil, and reinstalled it.
The third engine, at 60,000 miles, 43,000 miles past the second engine failure, is running perfectly. So in all honesty, I feel only one engine actually failed due to quality issues.
Hope your troubles are all behind you now. Funny how some cars are unreliable when most are very reliable. I had 1 out of 3 that was unreliable. Got rid of it quickly.
Last edited by wayback; 12-29-2016 at 01:09 PM.
12-29-2016, 01:10 PM
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I hope this will satisfy your curiosity, because I am sure, you will not find what you're looking for in my reply. I sense negative sarcasm in your post.
I will put it to you in the simplest of ways. The first engine froze up, on the freeway at 65 mph, with 11,000 miles on the odometer.
The second engine failed, 1700 miles later, due to the fact that the dealership did not follow the instructions the assembly plant engineer instructed them to do, replace the dry sump system. The dealership only hot-washed it with oil, and reinstalled it.
The third engine, at 60,000 miles, 43,000 miles past the second engine failure, is running perfectly. So in all honesty, I feel only one engine actually failed due to quality issues.
I will put it to you in the simplest of ways. The first engine froze up, on the freeway at 65 mph, with 11,000 miles on the odometer.
The second engine failed, 1700 miles later, due to the fact that the dealership did not follow the instructions the assembly plant engineer instructed them to do, replace the dry sump system. The dealership only hot-washed it with oil, and reinstalled it.
The third engine, at 60,000 miles, 43,000 miles past the second engine failure, is running perfectly. So in all honesty, I feel only one engine actually failed due to quality issues.
12-29-2016, 01:12 PM
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I don't think Evrose was negative or sarcastic....not his style. He really wanted to know more history.
Hope your troubles are all behind you now. Funny how some cars are unreliable when most are very reliable. I had 1 out of 3 that was unreliable. Got rid of it quickly.
Hope your troubles are all behind you now. Funny how some cars are unreliable when most are very reliable. I had 1 out of 3 that was unreliable. Got rid of it quickly.
12-29-2016, 03:07 PM
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12-29-2016, 03:29 PM
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I am not sure what you mean, but this has been almost like a perfect horror story. I did not want Chevrolet to buy the car back, because as you all know, big engines are a thing of the past. I wanted to keep this car until it rotted away. I am a huge Corvette fan, I even wrote an unpublished book about the Corvette. It took me over a year to get all the facts, pictures, engine history, and all the details of the book. I have given copies to friends, and I am having one of the local printing shops, make it into a bound book for me. I love the Corvette. I am just so sick of dealer treatment of Corvette owners, that I have read about here, and heard from local owners. My friend, just had the valve failure happen to his Z06, and it blew 2 holes in the block. I feel I have been duped by Chevrolet. I just want to enjoy my car ownership, and drive the car, and enjoy it. It is an unbelievably fast, amazing car to drive, and own. I get thumbs up everywhere. I just want the dealerships to take a real stance, and send me away feeling, they have done their best. I have never felt this way. I have owned about 12 new GM cars, in the last 18 years. This includes a Hummer H2, a Cadillac STS-4, 2 new Corvettes, 2 new Camaro Z28's. I just feel crappy about the issues I've had. Sorry about the, "I feel sorry for me" attitude.
I don't race, I don't modify, except interior and suspension. The first engine blew while I was traveling at 65 mph, on the freeway. The second engine, the dealer actually apologized. They did not replace the dry sump, which was full of metal particles. The oil looked like metal flake paint when they showed it to me.
My LS6, in my 2002 Z06, was raced, driven hard like a maniac, pushed so hard, I should've been arrested. It never winced. It took all the abuse I could throw at it. It was one wicked beast, but the engine never failed.
This LS7 car, I have almost babied, and these problems still arose.
You guys have a wonderful New Year, and I hope your Corvette, dealership, and Chevrolet experience, is better than mine.
My LS6, in my 2002 Z06, was raced, driven hard like a maniac, pushed so hard, I should've been arrested. It never winced. It took all the abuse I could throw at it. It was one wicked beast, but the engine never failed.
This LS7 car, I have almost babied, and these problems still arose.
You guys have a wonderful New Year, and I hope your Corvette, dealership, and Chevrolet experience, is better than mine.
Thanks. I appreciate your understanding. I just want to say, to one of the replies here, I took it to dealerships that spread over nearly 100 miles apart, same old thing. I don't want the car to be a buy back, as new 427 convertibles are no longer available. It was just a post about the troubles I had with a new Corvette, on a Corvette forum. I am a highly trained Aeronautical/Mechanical/Manufacturing Engineer, and a company should never allow problems like the ones with the LS7 to continue. This is my opinion, as a person who sees everyday, expensive, complicated and large volume parts being produced, without this kind of PQDR's. We call them Product Quality Deficiency Reports. They have to be answered by the manufacturer, as we install them on our products. We never let even a single part go, that is deficient, without reimbursement, and explanation.
I hope this will satisfy your curiosity, because I am sure, you will not find what you're looking for in my reply. I sense negative sarcasm in your post.
I will put it to you in the simplest of ways. The first engine froze up, on the freeway at 65 mph, with 11,000 miles on the odometer.
The second engine failed, 1700 miles later, due to the fact that the dealership did not follow the instructions the assembly plant engineer instructed them to do, replace the dry sump system. The dealership only hot-washed it with oil, and reinstalled it.
The third engine, at 60,000 miles, 43,000 miles past the second engine failure, is running perfectly. So in all honesty, I feel only one engine actually failed due to quality issues.
I will put it to you in the simplest of ways. The first engine froze up, on the freeway at 65 mph, with 11,000 miles on the odometer.
The second engine failed, 1700 miles later, due to the fact that the dealership did not follow the instructions the assembly plant engineer instructed them to do, replace the dry sump system. The dealership only hot-washed it with oil, and reinstalled it.
The third engine, at 60,000 miles, 43,000 miles past the second engine failure, is running perfectly. So in all honesty, I feel only one engine actually failed due to quality issues.
And again lets talk about the HARMONIC BALANCER that GM has NEVER ADDRESSED
I wish you the best of luck
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12-29-2016, 04:47 PM
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I am a huge Corvette fan, I even wrote an unpublished book about the Corvette. It took me over a year to get all the facts, pictures, engine history, and all the details of the book. I have given copies to friends, and I am having one of the local printing shops, make it into a bound book for me.
The following is not sarcasm:
You should have someone proofread the book before you spend the money getting it bound. Comma overload and lack of paragraph structure will make it a difficult read.