Eyedeas

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ICU2TV

Continue to push and hopefully you can get this covered under warranty.

Cor430vette

This is why I never buy built, rebuilt etc. anything....if I cant do it myself forget it. They always screw something up...
I wish you all the luck and sure am sorry this happened to you...keep us posted.

Eyedeas

I sure hope so. The conversations I've had haven't been very confidence inspiring though.

Eyedeas

Thanks, I'll definitely report back. Should know more tomorrow.

Leigh C. Herring

Sorry to hear that. Bought a GTO M6, heads, cammed, intake, longtubes, tune about a year ago, test drove it, everything fine. Made the purchase, from a major Chevy dealer, and I **** you not it throws a rod in my driveway not 2 miles away. Take it right back and they say the same thing, as is. Mind you I paid for the car cash, not that it mattered to them, but it sure as hell mattered to me. Call my insurance guy just to see what he can do, long story short I got a new shortblock. Two weeks later drop two rods in a parking lot. Apparently the company that supplied the engine sent a junkyard. Dealer sues said company, I get a now third engine straight from GM, traded the car three days later for my C6 and haven't looked back.

Eyedeas

Wow what a shiit show. I hadn't even thought about insurance. Is that a real option? I can't imagine them paying for my new short block lol.

Eyedeas

Perhaps bad gas caused detonation and a cracked cylinder? Lol. May be a bit of a stretch.

Leigh C. Herring

Insurance didn't cover it, but my family all has the same agent for everything and have for years. Anyway he pretty much went to bat for me as a favor and got the dealer to pay for it, which most likely is why the second engine was junk lol

grandsport2

I would contact an attorney....may or may not help, but you will get at least legal advise.

ruxvette

I would start out polite and, if an unfavorable resolution, tell the seller you are taking him to small claims court.

Kent1999

Honest question: If you indeed bought it "as is, no warranty"... what did you think that meant?

I'm not trying to be a wise-guy or harsh or unsympathetic, but I don't follow your reasoning that you think you have a legal leg to stand on when buying a used modified vehicle that states "as is".

EDIT: Re-reading your post, you *might* have a case to get the head gaskets replaced (since they said they had just done the work), but for the block, you'd have to prove they *knew* about it, but didn't reveal it.

And no, I don't think it will matter that, if months earlier, they had said something about a warranty in an ad. If its not in your sales contract, it won't exist.

Sorry for your nightmare, but I can't be very optimistic other than to hope for a charity gesture from the shop.

Leigh C. Herring

Maybe try going back to the shop and adding a warranty. It'll cost ya and some would say unethical, but it's worth a shot.

Eyedeas

I thought it meant that the shop didn't **** up their work so bad that two days later it would need a new short block. The leg you're referring to is that there WAS an implied motor warranty. But let's back up for a second, because I want to discuss how things went down BEFORE we knew it was the block...when we all thought it was head gasket (that had 150 miles on it, mind you).

I wanted them to fix it. "Hey man, I have 50 highway miles on this car and it's overheating. There's coolant in the oil, can you fix it?" "Sure that'll be $800." No. My degree is in business so let me put myself in their shoes for a moment. If I put a block in a car, slap some heads on it, and two days later there's a leaking head gasket (which is what everyone including myself suspected), would you tell the customer who just paid you $37k to F off? Or would you tell them, "I don't know what happened but we value your business and value you as a customer, let me make it right."

If you want to stay in business very long you take care of your customers. Customer service pays way more dividends than he'd potentially lose from fixing the head gasket, had that been the issue. Ultimately, he told me tough shiit and that parts fail. I feel it's necessary to again state that this shop's build had less than 200 miles on it. However, the point is moot because it didn't end up being the head gasket, but you still get my point.

Eyedeas

Yeah that's the plan. It may not go anywhere but if I have to pay $10k on top of what I already paid for this car you better believe I won't go out looking.

Kent1999

I certainly understand your position and anger, but legal contracts are not constructed of "wants", "I thought's" and "what a good business would do", but rather the text of the document and the protections of the applicable state statutes. Your degree is in business, so I'm sure you knew these things from your "Business Law" classes.

As I stated in my edit above, you might prevail for new head gaskets, on an assertion that they provided verbal assurances that they, as a professional shop, had just performed that work. But unless you can provide reasonably compelling evidence that they knew of a cracked block at the time of sale, or otherwise gave the buyer assurances of the block's condition, I think you've got a difficult path to a favorable judgement as it pertains to your right to a new block, *especially* given the as-is disclaimer you stated was in the contract.

All that said, your best first gambit might be the non-litigative "C'mon, do the right thing as a respectable business" plea to the shop that you and other posters have mentioned. You can always go the more risky (and expensive) legal path if that doesn't work.

Good luck... hope it works out.

wayback

Hope they do the right thing and fix it for you. But your gonna have a real hard time in court if it comes down to that.

Good luck.

AORoads

OP, I read your posts and I read Kent's above. I understand both of you---and you are not in a good position. Having driven thru and stopped many times in Oklahoma I know many of the major roads---it's prime for 100+ mph blasts, and not just for a few seconds. For all any engine builder knows, you bought the car and pushed it to 125 for ten minutes (and got away with it re police, but not the car). Kent already covered all the caveats like "I thought...," "wants," etc.

You don't state what "overheating" means, but cracking a block seems very odd unless something major was wrong to begin with---that means the block itself, or the installation plus the fluids.

I don't know how much of a leg you have to stand on, practically-speaking or legally, but I'd approach it as recommended. The only thing I'd do different is nice and easy speaking with everyone to begin with, AND at the same time, talk with a lawyer---a good one for your type of case which will take a little digging. Yes, you may not be able to afford hundreds of dollars for a lawyer, but you say you sure as hell can't afford a new motor which is thousands. Take your pick of which one you can afford or that car won't be moving anytime soon.

I do feel badly for you, but not to toot my horn, your situation is exactly what I've written about in several threads where someone is going to buy a used C6 of any kind, modified or not, and it's a stretch for them. To me, and as I defined it, a stretch is the "what if" case: what if a motor blows on the way home AND the trans goes out all in the same year?

Here's hoping your situation gets solved without your excessive use of the wallet.

PAULEB07

We don't know if it pushed too hard for a few miles by the shop employees or the owner of the shop, but that should have never had happened. If its a reputable shop they should stand by it and/or help you with the repair from their shop and/or the engine shop! I really hope they do something for you! We all feel for you brother! Good Luck! Keep us posted.

JDKnuguy

The car was broken when you bought it. Whether or not there is a warranty doesn't matter. They sold a broken product. Your research should be finding a really, really good lawyer who specializes in consumer law. You can win this, Baby.