Installing race seat, need to disable side air bags
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Installing race seat, need to disable side air bags
Hey guys,
I want to install race seats that have been sitting in storage for the entire winter. I'm looking at some guides online though (the seat didn't come with any instructions, I bought it used) and it looks like I am suppose to get a harness for the side air bag connector? Nothing came with the seat so I am worried about that. I might be able to get a resistor and make a harness myself but I'm not sure how big of a resistor I need to fake the airbags. Can somebody help me out here? They are Caravaggio race seats if it matters.
Cheers,
-Benjamin
I want to install race seats that have been sitting in storage for the entire winter. I'm looking at some guides online though (the seat didn't come with any instructions, I bought it used) and it looks like I am suppose to get a harness for the side air bag connector? Nothing came with the seat so I am worried about that. I might be able to get a resistor and make a harness myself but I'm not sure how big of a resistor I need to fake the airbags. Can somebody help me out here? They are Caravaggio race seats if it matters.
Cheers,
-Benjamin
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I would call the manufacturer.
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Don't know if you have seen this thread:
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...t-install.html
It mentions the harness but not resistance values. It mentions that Caravaggio has instructions.
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...t-install.html
It mentions the harness but not resistance values. It mentions that Caravaggio has instructions.
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Melting Slicks
I got my Daytona Sport Seats from Caravaggio and those seats deleted the side airbags. He has some sort of 'kit/module' that tricks the on board BCU in thinking there are still airbags. I would contact him>>>
http://caravaggiocorvettes.com/#/contacts/contacts
http://caravaggiocorvettes.com/#/contacts/contacts
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I'm not sure but I wouldn't risk it. When the BCM thinks there is a fault in the airbag system it may decide that not firing them is safer than firing them while you are driving down the Interstate at 70. I do know that it will refuse to fire them with some faults in the system. I'm not sure what it thinks of all wires open.
There is no simple "resistor" fix. The system knows the position of each seat to decide how hard to fire the air bags. If you have the seat pushed back it fires harder than if you are hugging the steering wheel. And it weighs the passenger to decide what to do on that side. Not just yes/no for there is a passenger. It has a scale to weigh the passenger. All this information is put on the serial data bus in digital form for the other computers to use. That's why you need a manufacturer designed simulator which the manufacturer is going to be reluctant to supply because, without the sensors and computer interface should they fire the airbags hard and kill a child or weak and be ineffective?
There is no simple "resistor" fix. The system knows the position of each seat to decide how hard to fire the air bags. If you have the seat pushed back it fires harder than if you are hugging the steering wheel. And it weighs the passenger to decide what to do on that side. Not just yes/no for there is a passenger. It has a scale to weigh the passenger. All this information is put on the serial data bus in digital form for the other computers to use. That's why you need a manufacturer designed simulator which the manufacturer is going to be reluctant to supply because, without the sensors and computer interface should they fire the airbags hard and kill a child or weak and be ineffective?
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I think the issue here is not limited to just the side airbags when making a seat change. There is a sensor on the driver's seat track that determines whether the seat is close or far from the steering wheel and that is on 1LT seats as well as 2LT and above. Once that connection is removed, the SIR determines the system has a fault.
The real question that doesn't seem to have an official answer (probably due to a liability issue) is whether the remainder of the system will function if any one part has a fault. i.e. is it all or nothing?
I swap out my OEM seat for my race seat just for race days. I'm willing to accept the risk that no airbag may function during that time. However, airbags and power passenger seat is the reason I ordered a 2LT for all the rest of the daily driving time.
The real question that doesn't seem to have an official answer (probably due to a liability issue) is whether the remainder of the system will function if any one part has a fault. i.e. is it all or nothing?
I swap out my OEM seat for my race seat just for race days. I'm willing to accept the risk that no airbag may function during that time. However, airbags and power passenger seat is the reason I ordered a 2LT for all the rest of the daily driving time.