Corrosion on control arms
#1
Corrosion on control arms
Hi everybody! Fitst post on the forum and I have question. I have a 2011 Z06 that has been garage kept and never driven in winter weather or for that matter I don't believe I even been caught in the rain with it. I was under the car last night poking around and noticed that I have what appears to be spots of corrosion on the lower control arms, and some of the other aluminum suspension parts. I thought that the aluminum suspension pieces were treated to keep this from happening? Is this common or do I have a garage problem. Honestly I never noticed it until I got under the car with a bright light and then the spots stood out. Ughhh
Looking for insight..Thanks!!!
Looking for insight..Thanks!!!
#2
Race Director
This is how aluminum responds in environment.
I do not recall having heard that the metal is treated.
You can using some Aluminum Brightener to make it look uniform again. It will turn it milky white if the concentrate is too strong. Also start from bottom and work up when applying.
I am not sure where you are located, perhaps humidity in the garage?
Try this link but it will be overwhelming: http://www.google.com/patents/US5584946
I think the short is that the oxidation taken place is like a coating and will protect the aluminum from further change.
Clean it and it will just repeat the process.
Unlike metal rusting the oxidation stops at the surface, with ferrous rust continues deeper into the metal.
I am not sure what action forum members have taken if any, this can be searched using the search function at the top of the home page.
I do not recall having heard that the metal is treated.
You can using some Aluminum Brightener to make it look uniform again. It will turn it milky white if the concentrate is too strong. Also start from bottom and work up when applying.
I am not sure where you are located, perhaps humidity in the garage?
Try this link but it will be overwhelming: http://www.google.com/patents/US5584946
I think the short is that the oxidation taken place is like a coating and will protect the aluminum from further change.
Clean it and it will just repeat the process.
Unlike metal rusting the oxidation stops at the surface, with ferrous rust continues deeper into the metal.
I am not sure what action forum members have taken if any, this can be searched using the search function at the top of the home page.
Last edited by Boomer111; 09-17-2014 at 10:23 AM.
#3
Drifting
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As part of my winter detailing, I put the car up on jack stands and with the wheels off I clean the entire bottom of the car. I clean all the aluminium suspension parts with Dawn soapy water and a fine Scotch bright pad.
That keeps it all looking pretty good underneath... that and it is a garage queen.
That keeps it all looking pretty good underneath... that and it is a garage queen.
#4
Safety Car
I've seen this when a floor allows moisture to penetrate from below.
Is your garage floor cement or asphalt?
If asphalt there is no vapor barrier and you will have moisture.
If cement, it is possible whoever poured the floor didn't first lay a vapor barrier.
Is your garage floor cement or asphalt?
If asphalt there is no vapor barrier and you will have moisture.
If cement, it is possible whoever poured the floor didn't first lay a vapor barrier.
#5
My garage is a concrete floor but I've never noticed it being damp. I did read somewhere about checking the moisture in your floor by taping a clear piece of plastic to the floor and letting it sit for awhile to see if any moisture accumulates. Very frustrating.... Keep the car inside so the elements don't screw it up and now maybe the garage floor.. I'm guessing that given enough time and unless a car is kept in a perfectly controlled environment moisture could also occur just from temp changes?
#6
Drifting
I bought my '13 in Feb with 8 miles on the clock. I store it in a garage and never drove it in snow or rain. My control arms are covered with small teardrops of corrosion that I attribute to someone test driving it when the road was wet and salty. This condition is common in the rust belt Northeast.
I am going to try wiping it down with machine oil and leave a light film. Any abrasive will permanently change the look of raw aluminum.
I am going to try wiping it down with machine oil and leave a light film. Any abrasive will permanently change the look of raw aluminum.
#8
Race Director
The oil will attract grime.
Wheel mfg. apply a clear coat.
Probably best if the suspension parts are removed first.
Seems like a lot of work, maybe for a show car.
Wheel mfg. apply a clear coat.
Probably best if the suspension parts are removed first.
Seems like a lot of work, maybe for a show car.
#9
Drifting
My GS was 33 months old and had 12k miles on it when I got it. It has always been a SoCal car so it hasn't seen much rain but the control arms were still kind of dirty/discolored. I used some metal cleaner on them with generally good results.
BE SURE TO KEEP ALL CLEANERS OFF OF THE FIBERGLASS SPRINGS. THE SPRINGS CAN FAIL COMPLETELY FROM CHEMICAL EXPOSURE. IT IS MENTIONED IN THE OWNERS MAUAL. AND SEVERAL FORUM MEMBERS HAVE HAD SPRINGS FAIL.
BE SURE TO KEEP ALL CLEANERS OFF OF THE FIBERGLASS SPRINGS. THE SPRINGS CAN FAIL COMPLETELY FROM CHEMICAL EXPOSURE. IT IS MENTIONED IN THE OWNERS MAUAL. AND SEVERAL FORUM MEMBERS HAVE HAD SPRINGS FAIL.
#11
Melting Slicks
I bought my '13 in Feb with 8 miles on the clock. I store it in a garage and never drove it in snow or rain. My control arms are covered with small teardrops of corrosion that I attribute to someone test driving it when the road was wet and salty. This condition is common in the rust belt Northeast.
I am going to try wiping it down with machine oil and leave a light film. Any abrasive will permanently change the look of raw aluminum.
I am going to try wiping it down with machine oil and leave a light film. Any abrasive will permanently change the look of raw aluminum.
#12
Race Director
This is how aluminum responds in environment.
I do not recall having heard that the metal is treated.
You can using some Aluminum Brightener to make it look uniform again. It will turn it milky white if the concentrate is too strong. Also start from bottom and work up when applying.
I am not sure where you are located, perhaps humidity in the garage?
Try this link but it will be overwhelming: http://www.google.com/patents/US5584946
I think the short is that the oxidation taken place is like a coating and will protect the aluminum from further change.
Clean it and it will just repeat the process.
Unlike metal rusting the oxidation stops at the surface, with ferrous rust continues deeper into the metal.
I am not sure what action forum members have taken if any, this can be searched using the search function at the top of the home page.
I do not recall having heard that the metal is treated.
You can using some Aluminum Brightener to make it look uniform again. It will turn it milky white if the concentrate is too strong. Also start from bottom and work up when applying.
I am not sure where you are located, perhaps humidity in the garage?
Try this link but it will be overwhelming: http://www.google.com/patents/US5584946
I think the short is that the oxidation taken place is like a coating and will protect the aluminum from further change.
Clean it and it will just repeat the process.
Unlike metal rusting the oxidation stops at the surface, with ferrous rust continues deeper into the metal.
I am not sure what action forum members have taken if any, this can be searched using the search function at the top of the home page.
#14
LOL! I keep trying to tell myself the same thing. However, Ive felt that the underside of the Vette since the C5 has been a work of art. I never noticed if the control arms on my c5's had gotten corrosion or not. From some of the responses I've seen I'm starting to get the feeling it's just the nature of the beast which is ok too. I was mainly concerned that I or my garage possibly caused it.
#16
Burning Brakes
#17
#18
Melting Slicks
This is how aluminum responds in environment.
I do not recall having heard that the metal is treated.
You can using some Aluminum Brightener to make it look uniform again. It will turn it milky white if the concentrate is too strong. Also start from bottom and work up when applying.
I am not sure where you are located, perhaps humidity in the garage?
Try this link but it will be overwhelming: http://www.google.com/patents/US5584946
I think the short is that the oxidation taken place is like a coating and will protect the aluminum from further change.
Clean it and it will just repeat the process.
Unlike metal rusting the oxidation stops at the surface, with ferrous rust continues deeper into the metal.
I am not sure what action forum members have taken if any, this can be searched using the search function at the top of the home page.
I do not recall having heard that the metal is treated.
You can using some Aluminum Brightener to make it look uniform again. It will turn it milky white if the concentrate is too strong. Also start from bottom and work up when applying.
I am not sure where you are located, perhaps humidity in the garage?
Try this link but it will be overwhelming: http://www.google.com/patents/US5584946
I think the short is that the oxidation taken place is like a coating and will protect the aluminum from further change.
Clean it and it will just repeat the process.
Unlike metal rusting the oxidation stops at the surface, with ferrous rust continues deeper into the metal.
I am not sure what action forum members have taken if any, this can be searched using the search function at the top of the home page.
#19
Le Mans Master
Yes, even back on my 02 and 04. The non oily film is leaves will not attract dust and will stop the "Powdering". My car is kept on a lift so I have to look at the underside all the time. My friend is in the aluminum business and told me about this product. Comes in a yellow can with a red top....inexpensive.
Last edited by jimmie jam; 09-18-2014 at 07:38 PM.
#20
Pro
Excuse me - but you're asking about a garage queen 2011 !
You can't believe it will stay the same condition as it was off the factory floor - even after such care.
Sounds like normal ageing - meaning nothing to sweat about.
But then also in my opinion - if you can afford it - you should be able to dump it long before this becomes a serious concern.
You can't believe it will stay the same condition as it was off the factory floor - even after such care.
Sounds like normal ageing - meaning nothing to sweat about.
But then also in my opinion - if you can afford it - you should be able to dump it long before this becomes a serious concern.