View Poll Results: Would YOU be happy with this paint match on YOUR Corvette?
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Acceptable or Unacceptable
08-21-2014, 03:32 PM
#1
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Acceptable or Unacceptable
Please read my thread here before voting, http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...t-project.html
After reading that thread please vote on if the paint on the Side Skirts is an acceptable match if they were on YOUR Corvette, if time and money was not an option, would you be pleased with this or would you want it repainted.
Thank you for your vote!
** EDIT **
These are not installed they are just supported there to see how good/bad they do or do not match. They are at the shop now and when my two other parts arrive they are going to have the car there when they paint them all to ensure a match or close match. The fit and finish is awesome, it just does not match, the local paint shop is fixing it for me by repainting them. Just wanted others opinions. Thanks to all of you.
After reading that thread please vote on if the paint on the Side Skirts is an acceptable match if they were on YOUR Corvette, if time and money was not an option, would you be pleased with this or would you want it repainted.
Thank you for your vote!
** EDIT **
These are not installed they are just supported there to see how good/bad they do or do not match. They are at the shop now and when my two other parts arrive they are going to have the car there when they paint them all to ensure a match or close match. The fit and finish is awesome, it just does not match, the local paint shop is fixing it for me by repainting them. Just wanted others opinions. Thanks to all of you.
Last edited by GhostC6; 08-21-2014 at 04:11 PM.
nope...I would have never even installed it.
08-21-2014, 04:14 PM
#6
We all see shades differently. To my eyes the paint looks like a good match. I have seen a body shop fail to match two year old paint on a car that was damaged. I had another paint mixing shop that perfectly matched 10 year old paint (painted on by a friend).
I have also asked a professional paint mixing shop to match a paint that was used by the Jaguar F1 team. They couldn't match the gold flake in the paint and I ended up getting some cans of paint from the F1 team. The paint was used on some simulators on Jaguar's behalf.
On the first photo above the light reflecting off the top of the fender looks like a good match for the same reflective angle on the side skirt. The close up doesn't look like a match, and it shouldn't as the light is not reflecting off of it at the same level/intensity.
You could ask for the same paint from the factory and maybe it would be a closer if not exact match. But From my experience the factory can blend their own paints that can't be duplicated with out an expensive chemical analysis to determine the contents of the mixture. Then to purchase the required ingredients (pigments/colorants and any metal flake) to get the exact match and have it mixed properly . . . well, maybe what you have is acceptable.
The question then becomes: if the shop has the car to match the paint and they say yes, they can match it exactly, and then they don't, will they refund all or a partial and you go away with what you are willing to accept?
I have also asked a professional paint mixing shop to match a paint that was used by the Jaguar F1 team. They couldn't match the gold flake in the paint and I ended up getting some cans of paint from the F1 team. The paint was used on some simulators on Jaguar's behalf.
On the first photo above the light reflecting off the top of the fender looks like a good match for the same reflective angle on the side skirt. The close up doesn't look like a match, and it shouldn't as the light is not reflecting off of it at the same level/intensity.
You could ask for the same paint from the factory and maybe it would be a closer if not exact match. But From my experience the factory can blend their own paints that can't be duplicated with out an expensive chemical analysis to determine the contents of the mixture. Then to purchase the required ingredients (pigments/colorants and any metal flake) to get the exact match and have it mixed properly . . . well, maybe what you have is acceptable.
The question then becomes: if the shop has the car to match the paint and they say yes, they can match it exactly, and then they don't, will they refund all or a partial and you go away with what you are willing to accept?
08-21-2014, 04:16 PM
#7
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Here is a close up of the Side Skirts where they fit against the car body behind the front wheel, this gives a better look, and the match/unmatch is 10 times worse in sunlight.
08-21-2014, 04:22 PM
#8
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We all see shades differently. To my eyes the paint looks like a good match. I have seen a body shop fail to match two year old paint on a car that was damaged. I had another paint mixing shop that perfectly matched 10 year old paint (painted on by a friend).
I have also asked a professional paint mixing shop to match a paint that was used by the Jaguar F1 team. They couldn't match the gold flake in the paint and I ended up getting some cans of paint from the F1 team. The paint was used on some simulators on Jaguar's behalf.
On the first photo above the light reflecting off the top of the fender looks like a good match for the same reflective angle on the side skirt. The close up doesn't look like a match, and it shouldn't as the light is not reflecting off of it at the same level/intensity.
You could ask for the same paint from the factory and maybe it would be a closer if not exact match. But From my experience the factory can blend their own paints that can't be duplicated with out an expensive chemical analysis to determine the contents of the mixture. Then to purchase the required ingredients (pigments/colorants and any metal flake) to get the exact match and have it mixed properly . . . well, maybe what you have is acceptable.
The question then becomes: if the shop has the car to match the paint and they say yes, they can match it exactly, and then they don't, will they refund all or a partial and you go away with what you are willing to accept?
I have also asked a professional paint mixing shop to match a paint that was used by the Jaguar F1 team. They couldn't match the gold flake in the paint and I ended up getting some cans of paint from the F1 team. The paint was used on some simulators on Jaguar's behalf.
On the first photo above the light reflecting off the top of the fender looks like a good match for the same reflective angle on the side skirt. The close up doesn't look like a match, and it shouldn't as the light is not reflecting off of it at the same level/intensity.
You could ask for the same paint from the factory and maybe it would be a closer if not exact match. But From my experience the factory can blend their own paints that can't be duplicated with out an expensive chemical analysis to determine the contents of the mixture. Then to purchase the required ingredients (pigments/colorants and any metal flake) to get the exact match and have it mixed properly . . . well, maybe what you have is acceptable.
The question then becomes: if the shop has the car to match the paint and they say yes, they can match it exactly, and then they don't, will they refund all or a partial and you go away with what you are willing to accept?
Why not take it to the guy who matched it, he is 400 miles away, otherwise I would..lol
Also, depending on individual monitors they color may appear better. I do photography and my monitors are all calibrated to be right on. If you viewed it in person or on my PC you would see it is night and day different.
08-21-2014, 04:26 PM
#9
Melting Slicks
hell...even stevie wonder can see that.
08-21-2014, 04:27 PM
#10
Tech Contributor
It's obvious that it's not close to an acceptable match. It would stick out like a sore thumb.
The 2 that voted 'yes' either hit the wrong selection or are color blind.
The 2 that voted 'yes' either hit the wrong selection or are color blind.
08-21-2014, 04:45 PM
#11
Nope. It's not a good match and I would not be happy with it.
HOWEVER - this is exactly why it's normal practice when any body panel is repaired or replaced, to blend the color by painting onto adjacent panels. The seam between two panels or parts is a visual signal to your eye/brain that amplifies your perception of a change in color from one part to another. That optical effect is greatly reduced or eliminated by carrying the color across the seam. If you want a 100% visual match, you'll likely need to have the new parts blended onto the car, especially with a difficult color like this. Otherwise, you may need to prepare yourself to live with a 95% match.
HOWEVER - this is exactly why it's normal practice when any body panel is repaired or replaced, to blend the color by painting onto adjacent panels. The seam between two panels or parts is a visual signal to your eye/brain that amplifies your perception of a change in color from one part to another. That optical effect is greatly reduced or eliminated by carrying the color across the seam. If you want a 100% visual match, you'll likely need to have the new parts blended onto the car, especially with a difficult color like this. Otherwise, you may need to prepare yourself to live with a 95% match.
08-21-2014, 04:48 PM
#12
That last picture does look like a bright red skirt compared to a more maroon body color. In the first picture the reflection from the top of the fender looks the same as the side skirt making it look like the lighting is the cause of the variation in color.
If it looks that different in person, then by all means have it redone to match if the shop has the ability to do it. Maybe the guy that did the repairs in January can mix up some paint to be used and send it to you. Maybe he knows something that they don't.
If it looks that different in person, then by all means have it redone to match if the shop has the ability to do it. Maybe the guy that did the repairs in January can mix up some paint to be used and send it to you. Maybe he knows something that they don't.
08-21-2014, 04:48 PM
#14
Racer
Before I jump on the band wagon that it's not a good match, keep in mind the angle at which we're looking at. We're comparing the red on the side of the car with the red of the side skirt which is at a totally different angle. It's like comparing the red on the hood of the car with the red on the side. Of course the side is going to look darker. If the painter used the same color number as the rest of the car, then I would think that's as true as you're going to get. Off the subject here but why the side skirts? I know to each is own but I like it much better without it and I have the same color as you. Just one man's opinion I guess!
That's what I was thinking, wrong color.
08-21-2014, 05:29 PM
#18
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Well the did a photo match but they took the photo on the deck lid and of course the side skirts are on the side and at the bottom which is hit differently by the light and even on the car looks darker. I think if they photo shoot it at the lower side at or near the skirt location, it would have a better chance of matching.
Also, the painter said that he can add a few more coats of the pearl and that will make the color darker to improve the match. The paint shop paints a lot of NHRA car bodies, the few that do not wrap, so they are very good at what they do and I am confident they will get it much better.
Plus this time they will have the car there so they can test match after each coat and with each stage of the process. They did not have that before.
Also, the painter said that he can add a few more coats of the pearl and that will make the color darker to improve the match. The paint shop paints a lot of NHRA car bodies, the few that do not wrap, so they are very good at what they do and I am confident they will get it much better.
Plus this time they will have the car there so they can test match after each coat and with each stage of the process. They did not have that before.
08-21-2014, 05:32 PM
#20
Le Mans Master
I voted "no", but since the skirts are positioned at an angle, its hard to determine from the photo if its the angle of the light that makes it look different, or if it is really a color difference.