Z06 vs LS3?
07-23-2014, 05:59 PM
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I'm not saying the LS3 is close to the LS7. It's 70hp.
It just bothers me when people call the Grand Sport a Z06 wannabe. The only difference, besides the 70 Horsepower, is a slightly lighter car with a more rigid frame.
With the Same rear end, same suspension, same gearing, same transmission i think if you modify the Grand Sport to make similar power levels to the Z they should be pretty close. Giving the Z the edge due to weight savings.
It just bothers me when people call the Grand Sport a Z06 wannabe. The only difference, besides the 70 Horsepower, is a slightly lighter car with a more rigid frame.
With the Same rear end, same suspension, same gearing, same transmission i think if you modify the Grand Sport to make similar power levels to the Z they should be pretty close. Giving the Z the edge due to weight savings.
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07-23-2014, 07:09 PM
#42
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GS doesn't have the same gearing as the Z06. It has the same gearing as the C6Z51 and the old C5Z06. C6Z06 has the same gearing as the C5 and the base C6. That is what makes its third gear pull so awesome. Third gear in a GS will get you just a shade over 100 mph before running onto the limiter. Z06 will get you to 123 before hitting the limiter. The added torque lighter weight and extended rpm range make it a real monster when pulling out of a corner. Where other cars need to shift you don't need to do that in a Z06 which means you don't lose time shifting. On track the GS can't quite match the Z and slowly falls back.
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07-23-2014, 07:49 PM
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On a road course it depends on how long the straight is. If it is a short straight a driver may decide to hold the gear Vs upshift and immediately downshift for the next turn. That way they avoid interrupting the power flow since there isn't enough distance at a slightly better acceleration rate to make up for the time lost shifting. On a long straight a driver might shift in the 6500/6600 range since the extra acceleration over a longer distance will gain something.
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07-23-2014, 08:40 PM
#44
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Shifting at 7000rpm in a Z06 is optimal on any straight. Anything less and you're giving up valuable rwhp going into the next grear. At the end of a 1/4 mile run you are just shifting into 4th.
07-23-2014, 09:15 PM
#45
A fully modified ls3 vs a fully modified z06 aren't far off from each other. I ran a 9.43 1/4 mile with 780hp Most supercharged/turbo z06 owners can't say that. I actual bought my car over a twin turbo z06. Don't get me wrong. Z06's are badass. Im just saying the ls3 isn't a slacker by any means. ANYTHING can be made to go fast.
07-23-2014, 09:18 PM
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07-23-2014, 09:19 PM
#47
Performance difference is MAJOR.
Read the fast times reports in C6 tech and Z06 tech, the Z06 is noticeably stronger in every catagory.
Don't let the GS owners BS you, they have C6 power in a heavier, less aerodynamic body than a C6 but seem to think that the Z06 lookalike body gives them some edge.
Read the fast times reports in C6 tech and Z06 tech, the Z06 is noticeably stronger in every catagory.
Don't let the GS owners BS you, they have C6 power in a heavier, less aerodynamic body than a C6 but seem to think that the Z06 lookalike body gives them some edge.
07-23-2014, 09:25 PM
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A fully modified ls3 vs a fully modified z06 aren't far off from each other. I ran a 9.43 1/4 mile with 780hp Most supercharged/turbo z06 owners can't say that. I actual bought my car over a twin turbo z06. Don't get me wrong. Z06's are badass. Im just saying the ls3 isn't a slacker by any means. ANYTHING can be made to go fast.
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07-23-2014, 09:36 PM
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Then there is the cost difference... take the difference Mod the GS with that savings including different tires and I suspect we are back even... and I can take the top off.
07-23-2014, 09:42 PM
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That was probly with a very good driver. I'm just a average Joe. I might have 10 passes total in my entire life and there's no way I could make a pass as fast as I did with the twin turbo z06 I drove which had nearly identical rwhp. Put a good driver in my car and im sure it'll run faster than a 9.43. Regaurdles of the motor. Most z06's wouldn't want to race me with a stock bottom end Like mine. Sure theyre faster z06s out there but the ls3 is no slouch. That's the point I'm trying to make. The GS isn't some generic z06 body kit wanna be. If it was I wouldnt of picked it over a twin turbo z06 that was $5,000 cheaper than my car.
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07-23-2014, 10:04 PM
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That was probly with a very good driver. I'm just a average Joe. I might have 10 passes total in my entire life and there's no way I could make a pass as fast as I did with the twin turbo z06 I drove which had nearly identical rwhp. Put a good driver in my car and im sure it'll run faster than a 9.43. Regaurdles of the motor. Most z06's wouldn't want to race me with a stock bottom end Like mine. Sure theyre faster z06s out there but the ls3 is no slouch. That's the point I'm trying to make. The GS isn't some generic z06 body kit wanna be. If it was I wouldnt of picked it over a twin turbo z06 that was $5,000 cheaper than my car.
07-23-2014, 10:11 PM
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07-23-2014, 10:19 PM
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Wow!! 
I'm new here but have been contributing to a multitude of forums for more years than I care to remember and must say that I am somewhat taken aback by the sophomoric and juvenile maturity level of many of the posts I've just spent reading.
Is this par for the course around CF?
I'm new here but have been contributing to a multitude of forums for more years than I care to remember and must say that I am somewhat taken aback by the sophomoric and juvenile maturity level of many of the posts I've just spent reading.
Is this par for the course around CF?
07-23-2014, 10:27 PM
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Wow!!
I'm new here but have been contributing to a multitude of forums for more years than I care to remember and must say that I am somewhat taken aback by the sophomoric and juvenile maturity level of many of the posts I've just spent reading.
Is this par for the course around CF?
I'm new here but have been contributing to a multitude of forums for more years than I care to remember and must say that I am somewhat taken aback by the sophomoric and juvenile maturity level of many of the posts I've just spent reading.
Is this par for the course around CF?
07-23-2014, 10:28 PM
#57
I can do that and I was saying the Z06 was $5,000 cheaper than my gs. That's how much more I liked MY gs. It was faster than the twin turbo z06 plain and simple. Is the LS7 better than the Ls3? Possibly. It's truly based on opinion. But for people to say the gs is a cheap z06 wanna be is absolutely ridiculous. Mines a 4lt and stickered over $70,000. Please explain how that's cheap? You're next argument is its slower. Everything can be built. There's 2000+ hp 4 cyclinders out there. Where one guy with one motor runs a faster time. The next guy with the other motor runs faster than him. Then the other guy comes back and runs faster than him. It keeps going on and on and on.
07-23-2014, 10:35 PM
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07-23-2014, 10:40 PM
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