Buying used Z06.....how can I scan to find real mileage........
#81
Le Mans Master
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Your 44 years have been lacking than.......any dealer technician knows exactly hopw a jumper works.....
I can get you a video of one in action.....many people have them. They've been around for 20 years now, since circuit boards have been used to power gauge clusters.
Its a tool......called a jumper. Its used in many diagnostics of any type of circuitry.
Where have you been repairing cars??????
It's a Tool for thieves maybe. This Post is too shady for me I'm out of here.
Your 44 years have been lacking than.......any dealer technician knows exactly hopw a jumper works.....
I can get you a video of one in action.....many people have them. They've been around for 20 years now, since circuit boards have been used to power gauge clusters.
Its a tool......called a jumper. Its used in many diagnostics of any type of circuitry.
Where have you been repairing cars??????
#83
Safety Car
You said car had a position sensor replaced at 1200 miles. What date was shown on the repair? That will give you another data point. If it's 3 years ago, opps! If it last month, 1800 could be right.
#84
Racer
The extremely rare number of people that knows someone who can and will attach a "stopper" to their car, or can do it themselves is such an incredibly LOW number, that its meaningless to the auto/auto insurance/auto warranty industry. Its not enough to change the way computers in cars operate.
#85
Burning Brakes
The OP is def a shady character. ...so he assumes everyone else is out to cheat him...if he was an honest guy he wouldn't even be thinking about all this....plus, he has spent an inordinate amount of time defending how normal it is with everyone he knows to use this common jumper/stopper. ... which is a crime.....sounds like he's hanging out with the wrong guys....
But the real answer is that a smart programmer can probably out smart almost any auto ecm on earth.......so if you don't trust this car then take a walk. .... and if your boat is worth 40k then you can sell it and buy any car you want...
But the real answer is that a smart programmer can probably out smart almost any auto ecm on earth.......so if you don't trust this car then take a walk. .... and if your boat is worth 40k then you can sell it and buy any car you want...
#86
Le Mans Master
PBC and all of South Florida is full of shady people looking to make a quick buck, it's what sets that part of the country apart from most. I don't know what your concern is OP, if you have a gut feeling go with it and run the other way. What more is there to say.
#87
#1 - 96GS#007 is one of the most knowledgeable and respected members of these forums.
#2 - When you start name-calling and ridiculing members who started out trying to help, you lose all credibility.
#3 - If you are so damn certain that these stoppers exist, prove it. Show us one. Show documentation of what it does.
#4 - If you are trading a boat straight across for a `10 ZO6 and getting such a hot deal, why are you dragging your feet and trying to prove the seller is a liar?
#2 - When you start name-calling and ridiculing members who started out trying to help, you lose all credibility.
#3 - If you are so damn certain that these stoppers exist, prove it. Show us one. Show documentation of what it does.
#4 - If you are trading a boat straight across for a `10 ZO6 and getting such a hot deal, why are you dragging your feet and trying to prove the seller is a liar?
#2 - 96GS#007 used the intraweb typical "Crack Pipe" comment.....needs to grow up
#3 - Im not trying to prove anyone is a liar....I don't want to get stuck with a car that has false mileage, THEN I get blamed for it one day when its at the dealership for work. IT HAPPENS.....
#88
The OP is def a shady character. ...so he assumes everyone else is out to cheat him...if he was an honest guy he wouldn't even be thinking about all this....plus, he has spent an inordinate amount of time defending how normal it is with everyone he knows to use this common jumper/stopper. ... which is a crime.....sounds like he's hanging out with the wrong guys....
But the real answer is that a smart programmer can probably out smart almost any auto ecm on earth.......so if you don't trust this car then take a walk. .... and if your boat is worth 40k then you can sell it and buy any car you want...
But the real answer is that a smart programmer can probably out smart almost any auto ecm on earth.......so if you don't trust this car then take a walk. .... and if your boat is worth 40k then you can sell it and buy any car you want...
The Vettes lose the analog speedo....but the HUD speed readout still works. RPM gauge still works.
Jeez....if I was using stoppers why would I come here to give myself away. Im trying to figure out how to make sure a car I might buy is not a cheater car.....that's all.
Not sure why anything here is shady......Im sure not. I want the true mileage on my car or any car I might buy because its too stupid to cheat a few thousand miles when it doesn't even help the value that much....plus you risk getting caught and then you have a car worth nothing that nobody will buy.
#89
I explained how they work. You turn it on and the "jumper" disrupts power to the analog speedo, its just opening a circuit that was just closed, which in turn cannot tell the cluster to keep counting miles anymore. You lose that speedo. But the HUD speed read-out still works and so does every other item. I think you also lose the MPG computer too.
Some other cars....you lose the entire gauge cluster. Those people say they have to turn it on from time to time to check the gas gauge so they no when to fill up, because you lose the gas gauge needle too.
I can't believe a forum of thousands of people have not seen these over the years.......strange.
#90
Have fun with this thread....Ill post if my tuner finds something or if the dealership does.
Ill post a video of a stopper in action if I can find someone to let me do the video on their car.
Outta here......
Ill post a video of a stopper in action if I can find someone to let me do the video on their car.
Outta here......
#92
Idk this thread sounds fishy everyone has tried to help you and you just attack them
And if your boats worth 40$ why would you still be giving 19k on top
Speaking from years of dealin with boats and cars your numbers and facts are way off hard to believe you bought a boat for 19 now it's worth 40 especially that boat
Also I've been around cars for my whole life and never heard of this stopper I'm fully aware of ways to stop mileage on older cars but corvettes impossible computer would throw a error lack of communication
But again this thread sounded weird from the get sounds like it's your car and your nervous
And if your boats worth 40$ why would you still be giving 19k on top
Speaking from years of dealin with boats and cars your numbers and facts are way off hard to believe you bought a boat for 19 now it's worth 40 especially that boat
Also I've been around cars for my whole life and never heard of this stopper I'm fully aware of ways to stop mileage on older cars but corvettes impossible computer would throw a error lack of communication
But again this thread sounded weird from the get sounds like it's your car and your nervous
#93
Race Director
Not sure why anything here is shady......Im sure not. I want the true mileage on my car or any car I might buy because its too stupid to cheat a few thousand miles when it doesn't even help the value that much....plus you risk getting caught and then you have a car worth nothing that nobody will buy.
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#95
Burning Brakes
By far one of the dumbest threads i've ever read on this forum. I try to play the middle ground and see things from both sides BUT....the OP shot himself in the foot when he said he has a boat worth x amount of dollars and he doesn't want want to get stuck with a car that has an odometer that was possibly tampered with...
#1 Ok why the F@*k even go through this MUCH trouble if you even have doubts
#2 If your boat is worth as much as you say it is (i wouldn't know, im not into boats) sell it for big money and look for another vette. There are WAY too good vettes going for good deals. And in 3 or 4 months there will be even better deals when fall/winter comes
Actually im dumb for even keeping up with this thread and even dumber for posting in it
#1 Ok why the F@*k even go through this MUCH trouble if you even have doubts
#2 If your boat is worth as much as you say it is (i wouldn't know, im not into boats) sell it for big money and look for another vette. There are WAY too good vettes going for good deals. And in 3 or 4 months there will be even better deals when fall/winter comes
Actually im dumb for even keeping up with this thread and even dumber for posting in it
#96
Melting Slicks
Push the blue OnStar button and ask the operator to run a diagnostic and then tell you the reported mileage.