plug tire or buy new
#1
Race Director
Thread Starter
plug tire or buy new
not really familiar with the run flats so i have to ask, due to a screw in the middle of tire (front right) oem with 4500 on the clock. should i buy a new one or just have the tire center put a plug in it? its not the money i'm concerned about, its the low miles on the tire. what a waste of a almost new tire if i have to toss it. opinions please. thx
#2
Racer
I've had many tires patched over the years and have never had a problem. If you taking it on the track that might be another matter but for normal use, that's what I'd do.
#3
I recently came from America's Tire where they found a screw dead center in my rear tire. Other than casually mentioning it to me they had that sucker patched up from the inside without a second's hesitation. They trust their work, so do I.
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#4
Team Owner
#5
Burning Brakes
not really familiar with the run flats so i have to ask, due to a screw in the middle of tire (front right) oem with 4500 on the clock. should i buy a new one or just have the tire center put a plug in it? its not the money i'm concerned about, its the low miles on the tire. what a waste of a almost new tire if i have to toss it. opinions please. thx
#6
Team Owner
Local Chevy dealer plugged one of the tires on my 6900-mile 012 coupe yesterday. Would have plugged it from the inside, but the nail was on a rib inside the tire, so they had to plug it from the outside.
Anxious to see if that causes any problems and lasts awhile.
According to the current wear on my tires, the fronts should last about 28K and the rears should last about 37K, so I didn't want to buy any new tires if I didn't have to.
Anxious to see if that causes any problems and lasts awhile.
According to the current wear on my tires, the fronts should last about 28K and the rears should last about 37K, so I didn't want to buy any new tires if I didn't have to.
#7
Le Mans Master
not really familiar with the run flats so i have to ask, due to a screw in the middle of tire (front right) oem with 4500 on the clock. should i buy a new one or just have the tire center put a plug in it? its not the money i'm concerned about, its the low miles on the tire. what a waste of a almost new tire if i have to toss it. opinions please. thx
#8
Safety Car
No vibration or balance issues either.
#9
Team Owner
Since no tire manufacturer reccommends plugging a tire from the outside, I would not suggest that. But if the puncture is in the middle of the tread and not the sidewall, it is fine to have it properly patched from the inside of the tire. Michelin told me in an email that their policy for patching a runflat is the same as for non-runflats...I printed it up to keep in the car for tire places that are not up to date (of which there are many).
#10
Pro
How about patching, from the inside, a puncture on the edge of the tread/sidewall? I know doing it with a plug kit from the outside is a no-no. But what about the inside? I am about to have this replaced as I already have the tire. But with less than 800 miles on this tire I hate to pay them a CA recycle fee and toss the tire if it can be patched for emergency use later.
#11
Safety Car
If you are running GoodYears and want to use one of their stores, find a Gemini GY dealer location and they will know how to plug the tire and will have the appropriate equipment to mount the tire on your rim. Discount tire as well as others are also okay but ask them about their equipment so they don't mess up the wheels. Had an OEM GY plugged early in its life and it lasted the life of the rest of the tires (20K miles)!
#12
I had the same thing happen last year with only 1200 miles on the car. I had a a screw sized rivet in the left rear dead center of the tread. They removed the tire and patched it from the outside and inside. No issues with the tire since. Patch it you can always buy a new tire. HOWEVER they wrecked my wheel removing the factory weights with a screw driver and refused to compensate.
Last edited by RKInIL; 04-24-2014 at 01:36 PM.
#13
Team Owner
I had the same thing happen last year with only 1200 miles on the car. I had a a screw sized rivet in the left rear dead center of the tread. They removed the tire and patched it from the outside and inside. No issues with the tire since. Patch it you can always buy a new tire. HOWEVER they wrecked my wheel removing the factory weights with a screw driver and refused to compensate.
#14
Team Owner
How about patching, from the inside, a puncture on the edge of the tread/sidewall? I know doing it with a plug kit from the outside is a no-no. But what about the inside? I am about to have this replaced as I already have the tire. But with less than 800 miles on this tire I hate to pay them a CA recycle fee and toss the tire if it can be patched for emergency use later.
#16
Team Owner
I believe that the reason that no sidewall patching is allowed is that the sidewall flexes more than any other part of the tire, generates the heat in the tire, is the thinnest, most delicate part of the tire and this makes it a bad place for the survival of a patch.
#17
Race Director
Thread Starter
thanks for all the input guys. had it done, so far so good but i ownly put 30 miles on it on the highway to make sure.
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How about patching, from the inside, a puncture on the edge of the tread/sidewall? I know doing it with a plug kit from the outside is a no-no. But what about the inside? I am about to have this replaced as I already have the tire. But with less than 800 miles on this tire I hate to pay them a CA recycle fee and toss the tire if it can be patched for emergency use later.
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Do not plug a tire. Not only do the tire manufactures hex it, NHTSA is in the process of outlawing it. And if you do get it patched from the inside, make sure its the mushroom patch repair to seal the hole that goes into the inner liner as well.
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirete....jsp?techid=77
Being my career was the Federal Governments Manager of the Federal Tire program and serving on NHTSA committees for various tire issues, I can tell you this is more serious than people think.. ive posted about this in the past and im sure the posts are on this forum in the archives.... bottom line, is i have served as U.S. Govt expert witness in fatal accidents due to blow outs after tire failure analysis was performed. The inner liner of the radial tire is the inner tube of the tire. When a puncture occurs, if you repair by plug alone, you do not seal this inner liner. Depending the quality of the tire and time involved, moisture begins to migrate into the casing of the tire. This moisture travels throughout the tire and begins to rust the steel belts. This condition has caused belt separations which lead to blow outs. I know...folks say "ive plugged tires and have had no probs". Folks, you are playing Russian Roulette ...... Ive seen over and over the damage this repair has caused....in quite a few cases that led to death due to loss of control. Repair the tire properly.
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirete....jsp?techid=77
Being my career was the Federal Governments Manager of the Federal Tire program and serving on NHTSA committees for various tire issues, I can tell you this is more serious than people think.. ive posted about this in the past and im sure the posts are on this forum in the archives.... bottom line, is i have served as U.S. Govt expert witness in fatal accidents due to blow outs after tire failure analysis was performed. The inner liner of the radial tire is the inner tube of the tire. When a puncture occurs, if you repair by plug alone, you do not seal this inner liner. Depending the quality of the tire and time involved, moisture begins to migrate into the casing of the tire. This moisture travels throughout the tire and begins to rust the steel belts. This condition has caused belt separations which lead to blow outs. I know...folks say "ive plugged tires and have had no probs". Folks, you are playing Russian Roulette ...... Ive seen over and over the damage this repair has caused....in quite a few cases that led to death due to loss of control. Repair the tire properly.
#20
Team Owner
Do not plug a tire. Not only do the tire manufactures hex it, NHTSA is in the process of outlawing it. And if you do get it patched from the inside, make sure its the mushroom patch repair to seal the hole that goes into the inner liner as well.
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirete....jsp?techid=77
Being my career was the Federal Governments Manager of the Federal Tire program and serving on NHTSA committees for various tire issues, I can tell you this is more serious than people think.. ive posted about this in the past and im sure the posts are on this forum in the archives.... bottom line, is i have served as U.S. Govt expert witness in fatal accidents due to blow outs after tire failure analysis was performed. The inner liner of the radial tire is the inner tube of the tire. When a puncture occurs, if you repair by plug alone, you do not seal this inner liner. Depending the quality of the tire and time involved, moisture begins to migrate into the casing of the tire. This moisture travels throughout the tire and begins to rust the steel belts. This condition has caused belt separations which lead to blow outs. I know...folks say "ive plugged tires and have had no probs". Folks, you are playing Russian Roulette ...... Ive seen over and over the damage this repair has caused....in quite a few cases that led to death due to loss of control. Repair the tire properly.
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirete....jsp?techid=77
Being my career was the Federal Governments Manager of the Federal Tire program and serving on NHTSA committees for various tire issues, I can tell you this is more serious than people think.. ive posted about this in the past and im sure the posts are on this forum in the archives.... bottom line, is i have served as U.S. Govt expert witness in fatal accidents due to blow outs after tire failure analysis was performed. The inner liner of the radial tire is the inner tube of the tire. When a puncture occurs, if you repair by plug alone, you do not seal this inner liner. Depending the quality of the tire and time involved, moisture begins to migrate into the casing of the tire. This moisture travels throughout the tire and begins to rust the steel belts. This condition has caused belt separations which lead to blow outs. I know...folks say "ive plugged tires and have had no probs". Folks, you are playing Russian Roulette ...... Ive seen over and over the damage this repair has caused....in quite a few cases that led to death due to loss of control. Repair the tire properly.