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Old 04-23-2014, 05:10 PM
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Ok….so I have a "new to me" 2012 GS….had the 05 C6 many years ago….the "wide body" thing is new to me…yes, I do understand what its all about BUTTTTT… here's the question: just how "wider" are we talking about , AND…is it my perception, or is the new C7 smaller than the "narrow body" C6????? Thanks….
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Here's the poop from the official Chevrolet site:

Comparison between the 2013 base vs GS--looks like about 3.3" difference in OAW

https://media.gm.com/media/us/en/che...2013.tab1.html

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When you look at a wide body from the rear, and look at the tires as well as the body, 3.3" makes an amazing impact.
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When you look at a wide body from the rear, and look at the tires as well as the body, 3.3" makes an amazing impact.
That's the truth. When I got mine, it was the first thing my friends noticed.
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The mirrors are the same width, though. So your garage door shouldn't be an issue if it wasn't before.
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I ordered the personalized plate for our 13 GS "WDE BDY"
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The "wide body" is exactly the same exterior dimensions as the "narrow body" except at the tires. GM added the funky flared fenders and a few pounds of weight to get wider tires under the car for the Z06 wannabees.
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Originally Posted by haljensen
The "wide body" is exactly the same exterior dimensions as the "narrow body" except at the tires. GM added the funky flared fenders and a few pounds of weight to get wider tires under the car for the Z06 wannabees.
And so it begins...
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Originally Posted by 69 L46 4 Speed
I ordered the personalized plate for our 13 GS "WDE BDY"
Nice plate!

Unfortunately, no one but other 'vette owners will know what that means.

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The "wide body" is exactly the same exterior dimensions as the "narrow body" except at the tires. GM added the funky flared fenders and a few pounds of weight to get wider tires under the car for the Z06 wannabees.
There's always someone with snarky, "funky flared fenders", "Z06 wannabe" comments. Don't you think it's time to give it up?

I cannot understand why you idiots can't seem to comprehend the fact that a lot of folks, the majority in fact, simply like the looks of the Grand Sport, but don't need the hp, or the expense of the Z06.

These folks can afford the additional cost of the Grand Sport, and so they choose to buy them. In fact, the GS 'vettes out sold the base model 'vettes better than 2 to 1.

Comments like yours just wreak of envy, and for no reason what-so-ever.

There's nothing wrong with the base models, they're just a different body style look. Get over it, and enjoy your own car!
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Originally Posted by Rky Mtn C6
That's the truth. When I got mine, it was the first thing my friends noticed.
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Originally Posted by C6ROLLER
And so it begins...
Yup, never fails.
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Originally Posted by haljensen
The "wide body" is exactly the same exterior dimensions as the "narrow body" except at the tires. GM added the funky flared fenders and a few pounds of weight to get wider tires under the car for the Z06 wannabees.
Sounds like you are saying ...."its the same thing, only different!"

Never wanted a Z06 and probably never will!....I like the ability to look up and see the sky rather than a headliner!
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Originally Posted by haljensen
The "wide body" is exactly the same exterior dimensions as the "narrow body" except at the tires. GM added the funky flared fenders and a few pounds of weight to get wider tires under the car for the Z06 wannabees.
Hal: Is this right? I was under the impression that the GS actually had a different--wider--frame than the base, same dimensions as the Z06 frame, but steel as opposed to aluminum. With the track being considerably wider, it doesn't seem likely they would have used the same underpinning as the base and simply 'pushed' the suspension bits and wheels outboard. School me….
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Originally Posted by icntdrv55
Hal: Is this right? I was under the impression that the GS actually had a different--wider--frame than the base, same dimensions as the Z06 frame, but steel as opposed to aluminum. With the track being considerably wider, it doesn't seem likely they would have used the same underpinning as the base and simply 'pushed' the suspension bits and wheels outboard. School me….
I was under the same impression: that the GS has a steel ZO6 style frame, which makes it heavier but also able to offer open air cruising. Some posts have been confusing me lately, though, so don't take my word for it. I also just read that the GS's wider tires are a detriment to braking and traction.
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Originally Posted by icntdrv55
Hal: Is this right? I was under the impression that the GS actually had a different--wider--frame than the base, same dimensions as the Z06 frame, but steel as opposed to aluminum. With the track being considerably wider, it doesn't seem likely they would have used the same underpinning as the base and simply 'pushed' the suspension bits and wheels outboard. School me….
Yes, exact same frame.
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Originally Posted by icntdrv55
Hal: Is this right? I was under the impression that the GS actually had a different--wider--frame than the base, same dimensions as the Z06 frame, but steel as opposed to aluminum. With the track being considerably wider, it doesn't seem likely they would have used the same underpinning as the base and simply 'pushed' the suspension bits and wheels outboard. School me….
Same frame, completely interchangable between C6 and C6 GS. They didn't"push" any of the suspension pieces, the mounting points are still the same locations, the difference is in the wheel offsets and tire sizes.

The Z06 frame has the same dimensions and the same mounting points as the C6 and C6 GS but it's formed from aluminum instead of steel.
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Originally Posted by R&L's C6
Yes, exact same frame.
Originally Posted by haljensen
Same frame, completely interchangable between C6 and C6 GS. They didn't"push" any of the suspension pieces, the mounting points are still the same locations, the difference is in the wheel offsets and tire sizes.

The Z06 frame has the same dimensions and the same mounting points as the C6 and C6 GS but it's formed from aluminum instead of steel.
R&L/hal: Thanks for the info. Did not understand that from the GM literature, obviously. So….same frame, same suspension bits, which must mean same overall width as far as wheel flange to wheel flange, with the GS/Z06 wheels having approx a 1.65" larger backspace/offset. It seems to me that would place a much greater stress on the suspension bits/bushings/wheel bearings/hubs. Or am I missing something?

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I just bought a 2013,in jan for 19,000 off list 436 h.p is enuff for me..If ida wanted a Z06 I would have bought one!
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436 h.p is enuff for me.
That's similar to what I said also when I bought new. That lasted every bit of 3 months!
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Originally Posted by saplumr
That's similar to what I said also when I bought new. That lasted every bit of 3 months!
Well, i was coming off a c5 345 hp coupe.Im still getting used to the adddt'l hp. I suppose one day I may feel different.LOL ( I guess thats what superchargers are for)HAHA!

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