Dream of a liftime or POS?
04-15-2014, 11:15 AM
#21
Targa top noise is from not coating the rubber molding once a season that is part of the normal maintenance.
Steering wheel and pedal squeaks, normal from heat and dust, and just lubing the bearing parts again makes that go away (normal maintenance once again).
Bolster wear, it's how you get in and out of the seat/car that is causing the wear, and if you had racing seats, would be complaining about how the bolster on the seat is destroying your clothing instead.
Simply, sounds like you would be better of with a Buick (what your mustang was) instead.
04-15-2014, 11:17 AM
#22
Race Director
2012 with 16,000 miles. Taking it into the dealer for:
airbag light
targa top rattle
steering wheel squeak (for the second time)
brake pedal squeak
leather worn through on bolster
My '72 Mustang II had fewer squeaks and rattles.
Completing the quality experience, I just tried to arrange a service appointment on the dealer's website. It's down and I should try again later.
Seriously?
airbag light
targa top rattle
steering wheel squeak (for the second time)
brake pedal squeak
leather worn through on bolster
My '72 Mustang II had fewer squeaks and rattles.
Completing the quality experience, I just tried to arrange a service appointment on the dealer's website. It's down and I should try again later.
Seriously?
04-15-2014, 12:20 PM
#24
Oh, nevermind
04-15-2014, 12:58 PM
#26
Burning Brakes
2010 AW coupe
23500 miles
Never less than 21 mpg
BUT, the right front tire pressure monitor sensor has been a POS since I purchased the car, new. The Service Tire Pressure System comes up RF XXX even though the tire is inflated properly. After a few miles, the Service Active Handling System message appears, and then a few miles later, the Service Engine icon lights up and the car starts to run rough. While under warranty, I took the car to the dealership and asked for the sensor to be replaced, but they would not - would only "relearn" the sensor. Also said they could not find any error codes in history, or, "could not duplicate the condition."
Had the plug wires replaced (no longer under warranty) last year and the problem still persists. Have an appointment to have the sensor replaced tomorrow to see if that solves the problem. It's always the RF that causes the problem.
This latest time, as the tire temperatures increased steadily, the RF front stayed at 29 PSI according to the DIC; finally, the scenario described above played out again. Very frustrating on an otherwise enjoyable, trouble free vehicle.
Chevy Customer Service reps have assisted me in obtaining partial refunds on repairs made 1 month out of warranty because the problem was noted multiple times while under warranty, but, I believe everyone's wasted time and money would have been alleviated if the sensor was replaced initially under warranty. Hope my theory is correct - will know shortly.
23500 miles
Never less than 21 mpg
BUT, the right front tire pressure monitor sensor has been a POS since I purchased the car, new. The Service Tire Pressure System comes up RF XXX even though the tire is inflated properly. After a few miles, the Service Active Handling System message appears, and then a few miles later, the Service Engine icon lights up and the car starts to run rough. While under warranty, I took the car to the dealership and asked for the sensor to be replaced, but they would not - would only "relearn" the sensor. Also said they could not find any error codes in history, or, "could not duplicate the condition."
Had the plug wires replaced (no longer under warranty) last year and the problem still persists. Have an appointment to have the sensor replaced tomorrow to see if that solves the problem. It's always the RF that causes the problem.
This latest time, as the tire temperatures increased steadily, the RF front stayed at 29 PSI according to the DIC; finally, the scenario described above played out again. Very frustrating on an otherwise enjoyable, trouble free vehicle.
Chevy Customer Service reps have assisted me in obtaining partial refunds on repairs made 1 month out of warranty because the problem was noted multiple times while under warranty, but, I believe everyone's wasted time and money would have been alleviated if the sensor was replaced initially under warranty. Hope my theory is correct - will know shortly.
04-15-2014, 05:33 PM
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6 ft 215. Not a string bean, but not a * ton either.
I have been getting in and out of american, german, british, swedish, and italian cars for years. Haven't had any trouble with interior wear until now. In fact, I have been restoring vintage cars for 20 years so am a fairly good judge of what normal wear should be.
I just think GM is not taking care of it's customers. I have done forum searches on all of the items I listed, and they have been issues since the C6 intro in '05.
Most of the things on my list are minor irritations including the leather wear. But the air bag connector problem is not. That is a dangerous defect that should have been cured early in the production run.
We all have dropped $50K or more on our vehicles. Doesn't GM owe us the effort to correct problems they know about.
BTW good catch on the Mustang II. It was a typo. It was a 1974 coupe and early production at that. Nice little car, but rusted away.
I have been getting in and out of american, german, british, swedish, and italian cars for years. Haven't had any trouble with interior wear until now. In fact, I have been restoring vintage cars for 20 years so am a fairly good judge of what normal wear should be.
I just think GM is not taking care of it's customers. I have done forum searches on all of the items I listed, and they have been issues since the C6 intro in '05.
Most of the things on my list are minor irritations including the leather wear. But the air bag connector problem is not. That is a dangerous defect that should have been cured early in the production run.
We all have dropped $50K or more on our vehicles. Doesn't GM owe us the effort to correct problems they know about.
BTW good catch on the Mustang II. It was a typo. It was a 1974 coupe and early production at that. Nice little car, but rusted away.
04-15-2014, 06:13 PM
#28
Burning Brakes
[QUOTE=We R 60;1586665032]6 ft 215. Not a string bean, but not a * ton either.
I have been getting in and out of american, german, british, swedish,
I had that problem on a 96 GS with the bolster color rubbing off my black interior leaving white area. The denim blue jeans were hard on the bolster. But leather dye would fix it perfectly ( black ). My top needs the contact points lube every six months or it starts the same noise. Been doing that now on my third C6! The more it sits out in the sun the more I lube the top. My 12GS only has 7k so the air bag light has'nt shown its self yet.
I have been getting in and out of american, german, british, swedish,
I had that problem on a 96 GS with the bolster color rubbing off my black interior leaving white area. The denim blue jeans were hard on the bolster. But leather dye would fix it perfectly ( black ). My top needs the contact points lube every six months or it starts the same noise. Been doing that now on my third C6! The more it sits out in the sun the more I lube the top. My 12GS only has 7k so the air bag light has'nt shown its self yet.
04-15-2014, 06:18 PM
#29
My 2005 with 35,000 miles has been relatively problem free. No rattles or squeaks. The leather still looks good. I do have the accessional check air bag light which I re-zip tie and is good for a few more months.
The dealer does not have a permanent fix for the air bag light so what ever they do it will probably be temporary. The Buick being recalled has the exact same problem as the C6 and they are removing the connector under the drivers seat and soldering the wires. The C6 does not warrant a recall.
The dealer does not have a permanent fix for the air bag light so what ever they do it will probably be temporary. The Buick being recalled has the exact same problem as the C6 and they are removing the connector under the drivers seat and soldering the wires. The C6 does not warrant a recall.
04-15-2014, 10:37 PM
#30
You're 100% correct and that is what I intend to do if my appointment tomorrow is unsuccessful!
04-15-2014, 11:01 PM
#31
Melting Slicks
I think you should sell it and buy an Audi or BMW, less rattles and unfortunately less *****..The vette is not known for cabin sound quality, interior quality or luxury...just ***** to the wall...so if those interior qualities are of a higher priority than performance numbers then the mentioned alternatives might make you happier, just a suggestion.
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04-16-2014, 02:36 AM
#33
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6 ft 215. Not a string bean, but not a * ton either.
I have been getting in and out of american, german, british, swedish, and italian cars for years. Haven't had any trouble with interior wear until now. In fact, I have been restoring vintage cars for 20 years so am a fairly good judge of what normal wear should be.
I just think GM is not taking care of it's customers. I have done forum searches on all of the items I listed, and they have been issues since the C6 intro in '05.
Most of the things on my list are minor irritations including the leather wear. But the air bag connector problem is not. That is a dangerous defect that should have been cured early in the production run.
We all have dropped $50K or more on our vehicles. Doesn't GM owe us the effort to correct problems they know about.
BTW good catch on the Mustang II. It was a typo. It was a 1974 coupe and early production at that. Nice little car, but rusted away.
I have been getting in and out of american, german, british, swedish, and italian cars for years. Haven't had any trouble with interior wear until now. In fact, I have been restoring vintage cars for 20 years so am a fairly good judge of what normal wear should be.
I just think GM is not taking care of it's customers. I have done forum searches on all of the items I listed, and they have been issues since the C6 intro in '05.
Most of the things on my list are minor irritations including the leather wear. But the air bag connector problem is not. That is a dangerous defect that should have been cured early in the production run.
We all have dropped $50K or more on our vehicles. Doesn't GM owe us the effort to correct problems they know about.
BTW good catch on the Mustang II. It was a typo. It was a 1974 coupe and early production at that. Nice little car, but rusted away.
After using the all too common plop, slide, sit-'n-spin entry method, which BTW wears the seat material and your pants, the seat sags enough to reduce the underseat space and that allows the wiring to snag.
GM can't control your body size, how you adjust the seat, or your method of entry. At 215 lbs, you are nearly at 50% of the load limit of the car.
The only time that connector issue is "dangerous" is when you've been T-boned and the side airbag doesn't inflate. Since side airbags are options and a warning light exists, it's the owner's preference and responsibility for maintenance. TPM systems are mandatory and also give warnings, yet GM is not responsible if you drive on an under-inflated tire and have an accident.
Oh BTW, it appears that the whole SIR system is disabled when speeds exceed 130 MPH. So as a general warning, try to avoid hitting anything above that speed, as it may be dangerous.
The Corvette design priorities are performance driven. If your priorities are different, then maybe it's the wrong car for you.
04-16-2014, 05:24 AM
#34
Safety Car
KayJay, on my 2009 I had the same tire pressure issue, although it was the right rear. The problem stayed with the car right until the time I sold it and I told the new owner about it. The dealer replaced the sensor once when the car was "out" of the 3/36 as a "customer satisfaction" issue but it did not stop (the car had 54,000 on it when sold).
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04-16-2014, 01:19 PM
#35
Race Director
6 ft 215. Not a string bean, but not a * ton either.
I have been getting in and out of american, german, british, swedish, and italian cars for years. Haven't had any trouble with interior wear until now. In fact, I have been restoring vintage cars for 20 years so am a fairly good judge of what normal wear should be.
I just think GM is not taking care of it's customers. I have done forum searches on all of the items I listed, and they have been issues since the C6 intro in '05.
Most of the things on my list are minor irritations including the leather wear. But the air bag connector problem is not. That is a dangerous defect that should have been cured early in the production run.
We all have dropped $50K or more on our vehicles. Doesn't GM owe us the effort to correct problems they know about.
BTW good catch on the Mustang II. It was a typo. It was a 1974 coupe and early production at that. Nice little car, but rusted away.
I have been getting in and out of american, german, british, swedish, and italian cars for years. Haven't had any trouble with interior wear until now. In fact, I have been restoring vintage cars for 20 years so am a fairly good judge of what normal wear should be.
I just think GM is not taking care of it's customers. I have done forum searches on all of the items I listed, and they have been issues since the C6 intro in '05.
Most of the things on my list are minor irritations including the leather wear. But the air bag connector problem is not. That is a dangerous defect that should have been cured early in the production run.
We all have dropped $50K or more on our vehicles. Doesn't GM owe us the effort to correct problems they know about.
BTW good catch on the Mustang II. It was a typo. It was a 1974 coupe and early production at that. Nice little car, but rusted away.
Meh early 70's was my car "sweet" spot as I was in high school and taking auto mechanics and that was going to be my life...
As for the bolster...after 2011 they were upgraded. I got in the habit of using my left hand on the bolster to keep my fat azz off of it as I sat down in the seat. (that will cure the problem) but I know you want it fixed...
Good luck...
04-16-2014, 01:41 PM
#36
SUBVETTE
My 2005 with 35,000 miles has been relatively problem free. No rattles or squeaks. The leather still looks good. I do have the accessional check air bag light which I re-zip tie and is good for a few more months.
The dealer does not have a permanent fix for the air bag light so what ever they do it will probably be temporary. The Buick being recalled has the exact same problem as the C6 and they are removing the connector under the drivers seat and soldering the wires. The C6 does not warrant a recall.
The dealer does not have a permanent fix for the air bag light so what ever they do it will probably be temporary. The Buick being recalled has the exact same problem as the C6 and they are removing the connector under the drivers seat and soldering the wires. The C6 does not warrant a recall.
04-16-2014, 01:41 PM
#37
Le Mans Master
2012 with 16,000 miles. Taking it into the dealer for:
airbag light
targa top rattle
steering wheel squeak (for the second time)
brake pedal squeak
leather worn through on bolster
My '72 Mustang II had fewer squeaks and rattles.
Completing the quality experience, I just tried to arrange a service appointment on the dealer's website. It's down and I should try again later.
Seriously?
airbag light
targa top rattle
steering wheel squeak (for the second time)
brake pedal squeak
leather worn through on bolster
My '72 Mustang II had fewer squeaks and rattles.
Completing the quality experience, I just tried to arrange a service appointment on the dealer's website. It's down and I should try again later.
Seriously?
04-16-2014, 02:59 PM
#39
Drifting
04-16-2014, 06:33 PM
#40
Drifting
Seats like new (interior still smells like new leather)
no rattles or squeaks
I have the NPP fuse pulled...yeah baby!
MT