throttle lag on c6
12-02-2013, 08:48 PM
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throttle lag on c6
wondering if anyone out there has seen ad on TV this past weekend advertising a in-line plug and play adapter that eliminates throttle lag on acceleration. They are made for most all cars but only caught end of ad and do not have name or address of company.
12-02-2013, 09:16 PM
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SprintBooster is the most common.....and there is also PedalBox.
Here's a review, discussion and install info and pics for SprintBooster:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...in-my-z06.html
Here's a review, discussion and install info and pics for SprintBooster:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...in-my-z06.html
12-02-2013, 10:54 PM
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The motor that opens the throttle plate only works so fast, so any lag you feel is not ever going to change. There are devices that trick your mind into thinking it opens quicker, but only because you don't move your foot as much for partial throttle. There is no change if you go WOT.
no lag just wheel spin....I don't notice any lag.
12-03-2013, 12:01 AM
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The only throttle lag I ever experienced (in my C6) was when using comp mode on the track. It can cut throttle response coming out of a curve. It isn't a major problem but it does slow your lap times somewhat (versus running with all the nannies shutoff). In a straight line with or without the nannies no "throttle lag" whatsoever.
12-03-2013, 09:34 AM
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You aren't connected directly to the engine via the throttle like in the old days. Now the car does what it wants/needs to do for self preservation. Torque management for the transmission may incur a lag during fast throttle changes so the proper gear can be selected before power is applied. Also, emission rules require the engine to act a certain way. My best advice is to get used to how the car responds. Slower throttle engagement allows the transmission to downshift progressively rather than flooring the throttle and waiting while the car decides what to do, for example. A tune could help but there are warranty issues there and you need to find a competent tuner.
12-03-2013, 10:16 AM
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St. Jude Donor '13
we have the sprint booster on our's and its really amazing !! but we also have the intune, and cnc ported/ polished throttle body . but the SB is awsome !! if your considering it go for it
12-03-2013, 04:00 PM
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There are multiple things that can be done to improve the throttle response on a C6. Our C6 tunes all include a feature called Pfadt Torque On Demand ™ PFOD, and it is a blast to drive. Our tunes are installed at home by you, and create a whole new driving experience. One complaint I could see about a plug-in controller is that there might be a loss of resolution? I will ask my engineers how that would work. 
Here is a quick overview of how our tunes are installed:
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Here is a quick overview of how our tunes are installed:
Pfadt Race Engineering
888-972-2464
info@pfadtracing.com
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12-03-2013, 07:33 PM
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The motor that opens the throttle plate only works so fast, so any lag you feel is not ever going to change. There are devices that trick your mind into thinking it opens quicker, but only because you don't move your foot as much for partial throttle. There is no change if you go WOT.
12-03-2013, 07:33 PM
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sprintbooster is the fastest and simplest way to fix the problem.plug it in,job done.i have one I know.
12-03-2013, 11:07 PM
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St. Jude Donor '07-'08-'09-'10-'12-'13-'14
Yes, you are Correct!
There is nothing like it. It can be adjusted here in the shop or with our AutoCal device to exactly how you like it.
Nothing else on the market can be adjusted like ours. NO LOSS OF THROTTLE RESOLUTION like with the competitors
product. Our is TOTALLY SAFE and it even works on the 2005 C6 which theirs DOES NOT.
CoW BOOSTER! is NOT a plug in module with wires hanging off of it and installs into the pcm where it can not
be touched by anyone. Nothing can go wrong and 100% pedal is 100% throttle....
With other devices approximately 3/4 throttle and up is 100% throttle wide open which does not sound very
safe when you think about it. READ THE FINE PRINT... it's there.
Many of you have tried the competitor's product and ours in the same day and there's no question that there is NO COMPARISON.
CoW BOOSTER! is guaranteed to put a smile on your face!
Call any time. 914-332-0049
Chuck CoW
12-04-2013, 02:27 AM
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It's a fact that the throttle plate movement is controlled by an electric motor that makes movements at the same speed during any change of the foot pedal. That lag is just microseconds, since what only exists as lag is in the motor speed that opens the throttle plate, and that will never change.
Those devices can change the relationship of foot pedal movement to throttle plate movement, but they don't change the speed of throttle plate movement. The speed and distance of a person's foot movement can produce the same results.
12-04-2013, 12:30 PM
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The OP's question is about devices that claim to reduce throttle lag, which they define as the position of the foot pedal to the feeling of acceleration in the butt. aka SOTP. That's a perceived condition, not a physical one. The actual lag itself never changes, only the impression of it to the driver. To a passenger, the feeling is the same, regardless of any foot pedal ratio changing device, because the rate of acceleration is identical.
It's a fact that the throttle plate movement is controlled by an electric motor that makes movements at the same speed during any change of the foot pedal. That lag is just microseconds, since what only exists as lag is in the motor speed that opens the throttle plate, and that will never change.
Those devices can change the relationship of foot pedal movement to throttle plate movement, but they don't change the speed of throttle plate movement. The speed and distance of a person's foot movement can produce the same results.
It's a fact that the throttle plate movement is controlled by an electric motor that makes movements at the same speed during any change of the foot pedal. That lag is just microseconds, since what only exists as lag is in the motor speed that opens the throttle plate, and that will never change.
Those devices can change the relationship of foot pedal movement to throttle plate movement, but they don't change the speed of throttle plate movement. The speed and distance of a person's foot movement can produce the same results.
Blather away but you're still wrong. It isn't perceived as you say. I can tell you've never tried it either.
12-04-2013, 01:39 PM
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Our cars are tuned for emissions and economy which in some cases cause a lean tip in when you get on the gas quick. While not a solution for everyone...I spend a few extra bucks and bought HP Tuners and used the scanner to see where the lean spot was occurring and adjusted transient fueling to be a bit richer in that area. Solved the lag problem and also allowed me to do a few other performance enhancements.
12-04-2013, 01:49 PM
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I'm going to have to step in here....
The OP's question is about devices that claim to reduce throttle lag, which they define as the position of the foot pedal to the feeling of acceleration in the butt. aka SOTP. That's a perceived condition, not a physical one. The actual lag itself never changes, only the impression of it to the driver. To a passenger, the feeling is the same, regardless of any foot pedal ratio changing device, because the rate of acceleration is identical.
It's a fact that the throttle plate movement is controlled by an electric motor that makes movements at the same speed during any change of the foot pedal. That lag is just microseconds, since what only exists as lag is in the motor speed that opens the throttle plate, and that will never change.
Those devices can change the relationship of foot pedal movement to throttle plate movement, but they don't change the speed of throttle plate movement. The speed and distance of a person's foot movement can produce the same results.
It's a fact that the throttle plate movement is controlled by an electric motor that makes movements at the same speed during any change of the foot pedal. That lag is just microseconds, since what only exists as lag is in the motor speed that opens the throttle plate, and that will never change.
Those devices can change the relationship of foot pedal movement to throttle plate movement, but they don't change the speed of throttle plate movement. The speed and distance of a person's foot movement can produce the same results.
has caused you to make incorrect statements and mislead people.
It's seems to make sense to you and you've convinced yourself that you know what you are talking about, but
PLEASE leave the technical part to the experts.
A PERSON'S FOOT MOVEMENT CAN NOT duplicate the effect that my CoW BOOSTER!
creates. EVERY person that has tried it knows this for a fact.
You only understand a small piece of what's happening and should refrain for speaking about such things without
first consulting someone who does know what they are talking about.
This guy GETS IT... Blather away but you're still wrong. It isn't perceived as you say. I can tell you've never tried it either.
Thanks for understanding.
Chuck CoW