Will a ZR1 stock air filter fit in a stock LS3 housing? Are they interchangeable?
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Will a ZR1 stock air filter fit in a stock LS3 housing? Are they interchangeable?
Will a ZR1 stock air filter fit in a stock LS3 housing?
Are the ZR1 and LS3 air filters interchangeable?
Does the ZR1 stock air filter flow as well as a K&N LS3 air filter kit that comes with the K&N air filter housing?
Are the ZR1 and LS3 air filters interchangeable?
Does the ZR1 stock air filter flow as well as a K&N LS3 air filter kit that comes with the K&N air filter housing?
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No, No, and No.
K&N flows good, but filters poorly.
K&N flows good, but filters poorly.
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I hate to contradict HOXXOH but.......:
This is a heck of a discussion and I encourage you to read all of it:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-t...same-pics.html
This is a heck of a discussion and I encourage you to read all of it:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-t...same-pics.html
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I hate to contradict HOXXOH but.......:
This is a heck of a discussion and I encourage you to read all of it:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-t...same-pics.html
This is a heck of a discussion and I encourage you to read all of it:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-t...same-pics.html
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The more salient question is whether changing from the stock LS3 filter to the ZR1 or K&N filter will yield any real advantage for a stock LS3 motor. The answer is no.
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If changing from a LS3 filter to a K&N and the quest is to introduce more dirt into the engine, then the answer is yes. The Donaldson filter is far better at filtering out dirt.
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Oh boy. I guess I messed that up.
My comment wasn't directed AT YOU, HOXXOH. But I can see now how it could be interpreted that way. I guess I should have written something like "I hate to contradict what HOXXOH says, but".
Oh well. One more lesson about thinking and typing. Thanks for taking it the right way.
My comment wasn't directed AT YOU, HOXXOH. But I can see now how it could be interpreted that way. I guess I should have written something like "I hate to contradict what HOXXOH says, but".
Oh well. One more lesson about thinking and typing. Thanks for taking it the right way.
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The truth will set you free.
I for one will aways stand up for what "I" believe. If the "facts" show me to be wrong than I will "finally" admit it.
HOXXOH does not agree with you Rick, he agrees with post #80 in the thread that you posted from what I gather here. I now have read the thread you posted Rick and it looks to me that the ZR1 filter will work from what I have read although the sealing of the ZR1 filter does not seal to the housing in the same way as an LS3/7 filter would.
Someone send me a new ZR1 filter to try and I will give you my insight!
I for one will aways stand up for what "I" believe. If the "facts" show me to be wrong than I will "finally" admit it.
HOXXOH does not agree with you Rick, he agrees with post #80 in the thread that you posted from what I gather here. I now have read the thread you posted Rick and it looks to me that the ZR1 filter will work from what I have read although the sealing of the ZR1 filter does not seal to the housing in the same way as an LS3/7 filter would.
Someone send me a new ZR1 filter to try and I will give you my insight!
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Oh boy. I guess I messed that up.
My comment wasn't directed AT YOU, HOXXOH. But I can see now how it could be interpreted that way. I guess I should have written something like "I hate to contradict what HOXXOH says, but".
Oh well. One more lesson about thinking and typing. Thanks for taking it the right way.
My comment wasn't directed AT YOU, HOXXOH. But I can see now how it could be interpreted that way. I guess I should have written something like "I hate to contradict what HOXXOH says, but".
Oh well. One more lesson about thinking and typing. Thanks for taking it the right way.
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The truth will set you free.
I for one will aways stand up for what "I" believe. If the "facts" show me to be wrong than I will "finally" admit it.
HOXXOH does not agree with you Rick, he agrees with post #80 in the thread that you posted from what I gather here. I now have read the thread you posted Rick and it looks to me that the ZR1 filter will work from what I have read although the sealing of the ZR1 filter does not seal to the housing in the same way as an LS3/7 filter would.
Someone send me a new ZR1 filter to try and I will give you my insight!
I for one will aways stand up for what "I" believe. If the "facts" show me to be wrong than I will "finally" admit it.
HOXXOH does not agree with you Rick, he agrees with post #80 in the thread that you posted from what I gather here. I now have read the thread you posted Rick and it looks to me that the ZR1 filter will work from what I have read although the sealing of the ZR1 filter does not seal to the housing in the same way as an LS3/7 filter would.
Someone send me a new ZR1 filter to try and I will give you my insight!
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From what "I" understood from that thread is that an LS3/7 filter "cone/paper" (need to check mine) is not really a tight fit in its own housing much less the ZR1 housing; but the ZR1 filter cone is a tight fit in a LS3/7 housing and the ZR1 filter cone/paper is not really being compressed in the LS3/7 housing according to the thread.
I'm still open to that ZR1 filter donation.
I'm still open to that ZR1 filter donation.
Last edited by C7/Z06 Man; 09-24-2013 at 01:13 PM.
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So...eventhough they are different...
Does the ZR1 air filter fit well, and seal properly in a LS3 & LS7 air filter housing?
Does it result in better performance and filter dirt better?
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Does the ZR1 air filter fit well, and seal properly in a LS3 & LS7 air filter housing?
Does it result in better performance and filter dirt better?
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Last edited by Silverado Desperado; 09-23-2013 at 08:50 AM.
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What I would of liked to see in post#80, etc. is the ZR1 filter next to or being inserted into a LS3/7 housing. Bringing the two together would of really helped to decide i.e. depending on what it looked like.
EDIT: Another point that I would like to make from my track experience. I have seen cars at the track running air filters that are rated way above what their carburetor will flow yet "a lot" of the time they will pick up if the air filter is removed. Using common sense it would tell most that the picture is not always as simple as flow ratings. That is why testing is a good thing. Hell I read that the educated "knew" the world was flat and if you believed otherwise you were an "IDIOT". Is someone sending me a filter yet!
Last edited by C7/Z06 Man; 09-23-2013 at 11:32 AM.
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Research results!!!
I wanted to see what the ZR1 Air Filter Part# 25940997 was going for on GMPARTSHOUSE.COM and to my surprise they have that number listed as fitting the LS3/7 & LS9/ZR1; WOW! It looks like a good bet that it will fit the LS3/7. Check it out.
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I've noticed the same thing on both GM Parts House and Parts Taxi. I can't remember where I read it, but I recall reading something that stated GM changed the filter for the LS3 and LS7 to the same element as the LS9 for model year 2012. The reasoning was supply chain uniformity and the slight increase in effeciency of the LS9 filter helped offset the additional set of cats in the exhaust for the 2012s (total of 4 in 2012). According to the source, which I can't remember or confirm right now, that was one of the reasons that the 2012 LS3 is still rated at a base 430 HP despite the extra cats. I haven't had a chance to pull the stock filter on my 2012 GS (still in Afghanistan), but I'll confirm when I get home in a couple months.
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I've noticed the same thing on both GM Parts House and Parts Taxi. I can't remember where I read it, but I recall reading something that stated GM changed the filter for the LS3 and LS7 to the same element as the LS9 for model year 2012. The reasoning was supply chain uniformity and the slight increase in effeciency of the LS9 filter helped offset the additional set of cats in the exhaust for the 2012s (total of 4 in 2012). According to the source, which I can't remember or confirm right now, that was one of the reasons that the 2012 LS3 is still rated at a base 430 HP despite the extra cats. I haven't had a chance to pull the stock filter on my 2012 GS (still in Afghanistan), but I'll confirm when I get home in a couple months.
Keep that head on a swivel.
Last edited by C7/Z06 Man; 09-24-2013 at 12:29 PM.