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Old 09-18-2013, 02:36 PM
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I love my C6 though it was a little disheartening to see a Tesla and C6 going at it off the line the other day.

Although the C6 was making plenty of noise (not sure if it was dual exhaust or some kind of header) and of course the C6 looks sleek and faster, it got beat.

Just seems odd that the understated and ultraquiet package beats the noisy traditional hardware. You would think that if you are going to make all that racket you would have something to show for it.

When it comes time to check out the C7 (with a proper automatic paddle shift transmission), I guess I will also have to give the Tesla a test ride. Hopefully by then if I want them both I will be able to afford them!
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Well the Tesla is 12.3 in the quarter but My cursory look says the C6 Z06 will beat that.

2013 Chevrolet Corvette 427 Convertible Collector Edition 0-60 mph 3.7 Quarter mile 12.0

2011 Chevrolet Corvette Grand Sport Convertible 0-60 mph 4.1 Quarter Mile 12.4

2011 Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 0-60 mph 3.3 Quarter Mile 11.1


It looks like a close race with the C6. We can go 400 miles before we need gas where the Tesla needs to recharge for an hour.

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Believe it or not, Corvettes aren't the quickest cars in the world.

What's important to keep in mind about an electric car is that the torque curve for an electric motor is a horizontal straight line; it has 100% of the torque from 0 to any RPM. A gas engine has a torque curve that changes significantly across the RPM range. So yeah, an electric car may well be much quicker right off the line. No big surprise there if you understand torque (which is what gets the car moving, not HP) is very different between gas engines and electric motors.
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Originally Posted by Steve_R
Believe it or not, Corvettes aren't the quickest cars in the world.

What's important to keep in mind about an electric car is that the torque curve for an electric motor is a horizontal straight line; it has 100% of the torque from 0 to any RPM. A gas engine has a torque curve that changes significantly across the RPM range. So yeah, an electric car may well be much quicker right off the line. No big surprise there if you understand torque (which is what gets the car moving, not HP) is very different between gas engines and electric motors.
Basically an electric motor has max torque at 0 rpm.

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I smoked a Tesla the other day.. and I have a Coupe... I was burning rubber all the way through first gear though.... so you just have to get on it a little
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Originally Posted by Bill Dearborn
Basically an electric motor has max torque at 0 rpm.

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Yup, and at 100 rpm, 1,000 rpm, or any other rpm. There's not an internal combustion engine in the world that comes close to that.

If you "smoked" a Tesla off the line, and you're burning rubber the whole way, the only reason you smoked it was because the Tesla driver let you.
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Originally Posted by Bill Dearborn
Basically an electric motor has max torque at 0 rpm.

Bill
Exactly, so in a short race, the Tesla will beat just about anything, but it starts ******* as speed increases and tops out at something like 120...that's the top of third gear in a C6.
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I drove a Tesla Roadster (v2.5) for about an hour a few weeks ago. It is 'quicker' than my '13 GS. I was on public roads but would expect the top end (higher speed) comparison to be a different story. The instant torque with only a subtle whine from the electric motor made it a very fun (and different) car to drive....

wouldn't buy one though... limited range, too small, not that comfortable, end of life with Tesla (NHTSB crash test exemption expired), battery life issues, and not nearly as good looking as the GS!
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2700 pounds bro. Quick little car.

Here's the real problem though: 125 MPH top speed.

Race a hair past a quarter mile and see who wins.
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Recently I saw a show on television (maybe on Speed) about torque. Some vehicles you would not suspect were shown. An inline 6, a 4 wheel drive, and an electric Zamboni. All were surprises.
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Originally Posted by TexasMadMan
Recently I saw a show on television (maybe on Speed) about torque. Some vehicles you would not suspect were shown. An inline 6, a 4 wheel drive, and an electric Zamboni. All were surprises.
You can count on an electric Corvette in the not to distant future. It will be every bit as fast as a gas model.
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Originally Posted by Steve_R
Believe it or not, Corvettes aren't the quickest cars in the world.

What's important to keep in mind about an electric car is that the torque curve for an electric motor is a horizontal straight line; it has 100% of the torque from 0 to any RPM. A gas engine has a torque curve that changes significantly across the RPM range. So yeah, an electric car may well be much quicker right off the line. No big surprise there if you understand torque (which is what gets the car moving, not HP) is very different between gas engines and electric motors.
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I drove an S model recently. I was totally impressed by the acceleration. But it was the strangest sensation. Its weird to be accelerating like that without the sound of an engine. It just felt odd. Good, but odd....

Personally, I need the roar of a V8
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Originally Posted by TexasMadMan
Recently I saw a show on television (maybe on Speed) about torque. Some vehicles you would not suspect were shown. An inline 6, a 4 wheel drive, and an electric Zamboni. All were surprises.
I'll betcha a Zamboni would take a Vette on a quarter mile icy road.
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So much depends on the drivers too, its not just the car.
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$110,000 for a new Tesla. 244 miles on full charge. takes 3.5 hours on 220 current to fully charge car. And takes 30 hours on 110 current to fully charge car. What exactly is there to like about the Tesla ??
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Originally Posted by bugsas99
$110,000 for a new Tesla. 244 miles on full charge. takes 3.5 hours on 220 current to fully charge car. And takes 30 hours on 110 current to fully charge car. What exactly is there to like about the Tesla ??
And only 125 MPH top speed.

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$110,000 for a new Tesla. 244 miles on full charge. takes 3.5 hours on 220 current to fully charge car. And takes 30 hours on 110 current to fully charge car. What exactly is there to like about the Tesla ??
It's fast, it's quiet, and you don't have to put gasoline in it. For every day knocking about town, a pretty good combination. Granted, it will not be all things to all people, but then no car is.
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Top Speed really has nothing to do with my dislike for the Tesla. After all how many people take their cars up over 125mph. yea we have some daredevils out there. But get caught once bye bye drivers license. I just cant see buying a car I couldn't take on road trip over 240 miles. And where you going to charge the car for up to 30 hrs. Run extension cord out of hotel???
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Originally Posted by Monts
It's fast, it's quiet, and you don't have to put gasoline in it. For every day knocking about town, a pretty good combination. Granted, it will not be all things to all people, but then no car is.
yep good grocery getter. $110,000.


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