Non Run Flat Question
#1
Non Run Flat Question
2012 GS needs new tires. Right rear Goodyear Run Flat cannot be repaired. Local Chevy dealer (who is great for service) will install non run flats if I bring them in however, will not sell them to me due to "liability." Thoughts?
#2
Race Director
I just installed the Bridgestone Potenza S0-4 Pole Setter, a non RF tire and love them.
Your call and I have gone back and forth between the RF and non a few times. Mostly due to purchasing different rims with tires on them.
At this point I will never go the RF again unless they can make vast improvements on ride and noise.
I carry a 12v compressor and a can of slime with a tire repair kit. I am ready.....and am enjoying better performance out of my new tires. The car is more civil now regarding noise and ride.
Some will say that the Micheline RF does this now and I have not tried the tire and am sceptical at best. I do not doubt that they may handle better but noise and ride would be hard to believe.
My S0-4's cost me $862 out the door mounted. It is a max performance summer tire with a 320 wear rating.
Your call and I have gone back and forth between the RF and non a few times. Mostly due to purchasing different rims with tires on them.
At this point I will never go the RF again unless they can make vast improvements on ride and noise.
I carry a 12v compressor and a can of slime with a tire repair kit. I am ready.....and am enjoying better performance out of my new tires. The car is more civil now regarding noise and ride.
Some will say that the Micheline RF does this now and I have not tried the tire and am sceptical at best. I do not doubt that they may handle better but noise and ride would be hard to believe.
My S0-4's cost me $862 out the door mounted. It is a max performance summer tire with a 320 wear rating.
#4
Safety Car
My only recommendation is IF you decide to go non-runflat, that you change all 4 tires.
The sidewall stiffness will make the car handle differently is the reasoning.
Good luck for either way you decide to go.
#5
Race Director
Yes there is a change regarding initial turn in due to the softer side wall on the none RF tire. It is most apparent on the first few turns then the learning center adjusts, ours not the cars!
#6
Race Car Tech
Once my OEM RF GY F1 Supercars began to get too noisy, and just downright dangerous in the rain, I switched to Non Runflat Firestone tires. They were like night and day in road noise, good handling in dry and especially in wet road conditions. They lasted for 30K miles and many long road trips.
I carried a compressor, some tire plugs and a can of slime, a pair of side cutter pliers just in case.
I picked up 1 nail and 1 screw, and was able to fix both using the tire plug kit.
I was actually thinking of going back to a set of runflats, then I remembered how much I disliked them the first time.
I decide to go with the same non run flats. We still do lot's of long road trips, but I'm not worried in the least.
It's your call, good luck in whatever u decide
I carried a compressor, some tire plugs and a can of slime, a pair of side cutter pliers just in case.
I picked up 1 nail and 1 screw, and was able to fix both using the tire plug kit.
I was actually thinking of going back to a set of runflats, then I remembered how much I disliked them the first time.
I decide to go with the same non run flats. We still do lot's of long road trips, but I'm not worried in the least.
It's your call, good luck in whatever u decide
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I just installed the Bridgestone Potenza S0-4 Pole Setter, a non RF tire and love them.
Your call and I have gone back and forth between the RF and non a few times. Mostly due to purchasing different rims with tires on them.
At this point I will never go the RF again unless they can make vast improvements on ride and noise.
I carry a 12v compressor and a can of slime with a tire repair kit. I am ready.....and am enjoying better performance out of my new tires. The car is more civil now regarding noise and ride.
Some will say that the Micheline RF does this now and I have not tried the tire and am sceptical at best. I do not doubt that they may handle better but noise and ride would be hard to believe.
My S0-4's cost me $862 out the door mounted. It is a max performance summer tire with a 320 wear rating.
Your call and I have gone back and forth between the RF and non a few times. Mostly due to purchasing different rims with tires on them.
At this point I will never go the RF again unless they can make vast improvements on ride and noise.
I carry a 12v compressor and a can of slime with a tire repair kit. I am ready.....and am enjoying better performance out of my new tires. The car is more civil now regarding noise and ride.
Some will say that the Micheline RF does this now and I have not tried the tire and am sceptical at best. I do not doubt that they may handle better but noise and ride would be hard to believe.
My S0-4's cost me $862 out the door mounted. It is a max performance summer tire with a 320 wear rating.
#8
Burning Brakes
I also have 2012 GS and it was the same tire and Dealer said same thing, but Goodyear said one time only. So I plugged it myself. Now I do not plan on pushing the limits of this tire anyway and they do not last very long either with 220 treadwear number. I got two rears from a friend with 8k on them and they almost aren't worth the trouble of being home. His front insides were the reason he changed tires at 8k miles.
#9
Le Mans Master
this topic comes up every other day...
Michelin Pilot Super Sports
Amazing grip
Absolutely stunning performance in the rain
Great tire life
/end thread/
Michelin Pilot Super Sports
Amazing grip
Absolutely stunning performance in the rain
Great tire life
/end thread/
#11
Le Mans Master
I just installed the Bridgestone Potenza S0-4 Pole Setter, a non RF tire and love them.
Your call and I have gone back and forth between the RF and non a few times. Mostly due to purchasing different rims with tires on them.
At this point I will never go the RF again unless they can make vast improvements on ride and noise.
I carry a 12v compressor and a can of slime with a tire repair kit. I am ready.....and am enjoying better performance out of my new tires. The car is more civil now regarding noise and ride.
Some will say that the Micheline RF does this now and I have not tried the tire and am sceptical at best. I do not doubt that they may handle better but noise and ride would be hard to believe.
My S0-4's cost me $862 out the door mounted. It is a max performance summer tire with a 320 wear rating.
Your call and I have gone back and forth between the RF and non a few times. Mostly due to purchasing different rims with tires on them.
At this point I will never go the RF again unless they can make vast improvements on ride and noise.
I carry a 12v compressor and a can of slime with a tire repair kit. I am ready.....and am enjoying better performance out of my new tires. The car is more civil now regarding noise and ride.
Some will say that the Micheline RF does this now and I have not tried the tire and am sceptical at best. I do not doubt that they may handle better but noise and ride would be hard to believe.
My S0-4's cost me $862 out the door mounted. It is a max performance summer tire with a 320 wear rating.
#12
Retired & lovin' it!
I've been running Nitto Invo's for the past 5 years & love them. Much quieter than the GY Supercars &, in my opinion, equal or better road grip. I do carry a plug kit & small 12v compressor, but never have had to use them.
#13
Race Director
I am curious about your ride and noise comments. I run Firehawk rft's on my vette, and they are VERY quiet with a smooth ride. They are just as smooth and quiet as the tires on my wife's Accord. I'm not sure how much quieter they could be. What kind of rft's were you running?
I thought hard about the Firestone RF but decided to go with the Pole Setters. The V12's where in the running to initially but after further research where dropped.
#14
Race Director
I just put those on mine 2 days ago. I'm holding judgement until 1,000 miles. The tread design looks like it'd be an excellent rain tire, which is so highly desired here in the desert. Previous tires were OEM GY RF, then Nitto Invos, then Mich A/S ZP, then Invos again. My cost was higher, due to the recycle tax in AZ and the mistake I made in buying from a dealer in the highest sales tax city in the entire state.
for your final review comparing with the others used.
#15
Le Mans Master
The dealer's proposition sounds good to me. You can no doubt get your tires a lot cheaper than the dealer, and if they'll install them, all the better. They should have all the right equipment.
I can see the liability issue. They are pretty constrained by GM (and I suppose the NTSB and maybe other government agencies) so it's probably reasonable that they can't sell non runflats.
That said, on a previous Vette I had Michelin runflats and also Michelin non-runflats and honestly couldn't tell the difference in road noise when the RFs were new. They got a little noisy toward the end of their life though. But, even then, they were not as noisy as the Goodyear RFs when the the GYs were new.
Michelin is a great tire. And it's also expensive, but really no more than the OEM Goodyears. Don't know about Bridgestone and the others because I haven't tried them.
I can see the liability issue. They are pretty constrained by GM (and I suppose the NTSB and maybe other government agencies) so it's probably reasonable that they can't sell non runflats.
That said, on a previous Vette I had Michelin runflats and also Michelin non-runflats and honestly couldn't tell the difference in road noise when the RFs were new. They got a little noisy toward the end of their life though. But, even then, they were not as noisy as the Goodyear RFs when the the GYs were new.
Michelin is a great tire. And it's also expensive, but really no more than the OEM Goodyears. Don't know about Bridgestone and the others because I haven't tried them.