Raleigh PD Laser testing on I440
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The sheriff's department has had a black Z06 for 3-4 years. A drug dealer confiscation as I recall. I have seen it many times on I40.
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No, laser scatter can be picked up. It is usually 18" or more from where the laser was pointed. Also, there is shear physics, that if they point it at a headlight on say a Vette, 18" above that is going to clear the fender and could be picked up by others detectors.
I run the 8500ci with the shifters, and have excellent success against LIDAR.
Also, your previous statements were a little odd, you said that the officer was on the overpass, but that there was no car: so did you actually see a cop, or is it possible you just got a false positive from your detector? This can happen occasionally from certain taillights etc.
I run the 8500ci with the shifters, and have excellent success against LIDAR.
Also, your previous statements were a little odd, you said that the officer was on the overpass, but that there was no car: so did you actually see a cop, or is it possible you just got a false positive from your detector? This can happen occasionally from certain taillights etc.
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Thanks for the heads-up on LEO traps in the RDU area. Any more locals have data on where these LEO are would be helpful. Not that I intend to go over 65 but our cars get to 65 very easily...its the car's fault bc its too fast. JK . I stay within 10 mph most of the time. I have a Beltronics V8 works fine but won't beat the Lasers I bet...especially with newer and newer tech. coming out each couple of years.
Nice work Corvette Forum posters!!!
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And just food for thought, and this is for the OP, the reason your detector acted goofy was probably him trying to get a reading and couldn't. His elevated position is not how you are suppose to use the LIDAR, you are suppose to be as parallel and level to the target you are trying to obtain.
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Another funny aspect we argued the other day was this topic in particular. I believed that the beam width of the lidar, as it increased, would allow someone to "detect" the transmission (ie corvette driver getting the fuzz going wild). Another guy, much smarter than I proved otherwise. We used IR goggles to actually view the beam at night time as we transmitted..............I ended up owing him dry cleaning for a week...........the beam width doesnt vary until well past when the human eye can see. For me, I have no problem obtaining speeds on people in excess of 2000 feet away. Now really think about that and the distance. You would REALLY have to be on your A game to spot someone using LIDAR while moving, at that distance.
Then there was the truspeed unit that I tested out the other week, and that is what I call plain out cheating. Imagine looking through binoculars with the ability of laser............plain out crazy. Just when I thought 2000 feet was alot, I got a taste of 4000 feet. I could see people picking their nose and doing 90 mph before they even could think that I was ahead............
#48
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Inner beltline/440 1000 ft prior to the lake boon trail exit. Just as you cross under the Ready Creek pedestrian overpass around the bend where it goes 2 lanes to 3 lanes. RPD parks a white SUV (tahoe?) in the far left emergency lane to take readings and the chase crew is up ahead... Seen this spot a few times. 440, in general, is not a highway you want to speed on.
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They used to say if the majority of the population does not abide by a law then the law is null and void.... sometimes accepted in court as reason enough to dismiss. Its the people who are not paying attention or under the influence who cause accidents, proven all the time. Speed only determines the damage intensity and with the recent reports that anything over 35 usually means "devastating", whats the point other than to make money?
Yea, i stop when caught, but then i always finish the conversation with "Nice doing business with ya" and not once has anyone disagreed.
Yea, i stop when caught, but then i always finish the conversation with "Nice doing business with ya" and not once has anyone disagreed.
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I will give you guys some insight. I am a motor officer in California and in order for us (officers trained with radar/LIDAR) to use RADAR or LIDAR we are trained in visual speed estimation. In California the courts established that we can be within +/- 5 mphs in our visual speed estimation. I use LIDAR for speed enforcement. I use a custom signal pro 3 laser for enforcement. We first do a visual speed estimation then I activate my hand held laser to verify my visual speed calculation. I can issue a cite strictly on visual speed estimation.
One of the posters stated that LIDAR can not be used when pointed through a closed window or windshield and that is incorrect. I have used my LIDAR when driving a patrol car when my duty bike was getting service done and it works perfectly. LIDAR is target specific unlike RADAR that sends out a cone and the officer has to determine which vehicle is the fastest in the group.
Being a accident investigator as well the fastest perception and reaction by scientific study is 1 second (.5 second to perceive and .5 to react). What this breaks down to is that when your laser detector activates the officer using the LIDAR has already captured your speed before you can react. Many times I have already locked in a speed on my LIDAR and then I watch the vehicle brake aggressively.
Happy motoring.
One of the posters stated that LIDAR can not be used when pointed through a closed window or windshield and that is incorrect. I have used my LIDAR when driving a patrol car when my duty bike was getting service done and it works perfectly. LIDAR is target specific unlike RADAR that sends out a cone and the officer has to determine which vehicle is the fastest in the group.
Being a accident investigator as well the fastest perception and reaction by scientific study is 1 second (.5 second to perceive and .5 to react). What this breaks down to is that when your laser detector activates the officer using the LIDAR has already captured your speed before you can react. Many times I have already locked in a speed on my LIDAR and then I watch the vehicle brake aggressively.
Happy motoring.
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Was not in the C6, jumped on brakes about the instant I saw the PD headlights top a hill, which was less than a second aftert the RD lit up.
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I will give you guys some insight. I am a motor officer in California and in order for us (officers trained with radar/LIDAR) to use RADAR or LIDAR we are trained in visual speed estimation. In California the courts established that we can be within +/- 5 mphs in our visual speed estimation. I use LIDAR for speed enforcement. I use a custom signal pro 3 laser for enforcement. We first do a visual speed estimation then I activate my hand held laser to verify my visual speed calculation. I can issue a cite strictly on visual speed estimation.
One of the posters stated that LIDAR can not be used when pointed through a closed window or windshield and that is incorrect. I have used my LIDAR when driving a patrol car when my duty bike was getting service done and it works perfectly. LIDAR is target specific unlike RADAR that sends out a cone and the officer has to determine which vehicle is the fastest in the group.
Being a accident investigator as well the fastest perception and reaction by scientific study is 1 second (.5 second to perceive and .5 to react). What this breaks down to is that when your laser detector activates the officer using the LIDAR has already captured your speed before you can react. Many times I have already locked in a speed on my LIDAR and then I watch the vehicle brake aggressively.
Happy motoring.
One of the posters stated that LIDAR can not be used when pointed through a closed window or windshield and that is incorrect. I have used my LIDAR when driving a patrol car when my duty bike was getting service done and it works perfectly. LIDAR is target specific unlike RADAR that sends out a cone and the officer has to determine which vehicle is the fastest in the group.
Being a accident investigator as well the fastest perception and reaction by scientific study is 1 second (.5 second to perceive and .5 to react). What this breaks down to is that when your laser detector activates the officer using the LIDAR has already captured your speed before you can react. Many times I have already locked in a speed on my LIDAR and then I watch the vehicle brake aggressively.
Happy motoring.
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Don't mean to necro post but this is as close as I could get with what happened today...
Driving to 1 on 540 from Brier Creek just about to pass Falls of Neuse and I saw a popo standing on the upramp point what I believe was a laser with about six cop cars down the ramp. They were obviously tagging and bagging. My question is, is Raleigh now using laser technology that my 9500ix will not pick up because I was in front of everyone in the very left lane with a Torch Red GS. You can't tell me they would not of pointed that laser at me? The 9500ix remained silent...I was only doing 75 in a 70...
This could give me a reason to upgrade to the Max...
Driving to 1 on 540 from Brier Creek just about to pass Falls of Neuse and I saw a popo standing on the upramp point what I believe was a laser with about six cop cars down the ramp. They were obviously tagging and bagging. My question is, is Raleigh now using laser technology that my 9500ix will not pick up because I was in front of everyone in the very left lane with a Torch Red GS. You can't tell me they would not of pointed that laser at me? The 9500ix remained silent...I was only doing 75 in a 70...
This could give me a reason to upgrade to the Max...
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Don't mean to necro post but this is as close as I could get with what happened today...
Driving to 1 on 540 from Brier Creek just about to pass Falls of Neuse and I saw a popo standing on the upramp point what I believe was a laser with about six cop cars down the ramp. They were obviously tagging and bagging. My question is, is Raleigh now using laser technology that my 9500ix will not pick up because I was in front of everyone in the very left lane with a Torch Red GS. You can't tell me they would not of pointed that laser at me? The 9500ix remained silent...I was only doing 75 in a 70...
This could give me a reason to upgrade to the Max...
Driving to 1 on 540 from Brier Creek just about to pass Falls of Neuse and I saw a popo standing on the upramp point what I believe was a laser with about six cop cars down the ramp. They were obviously tagging and bagging. My question is, is Raleigh now using laser technology that my 9500ix will not pick up because I was in front of everyone in the very left lane with a Torch Red GS. You can't tell me they would not of pointed that laser at me? The 9500ix remained silent...I was only doing 75 in a 70...
This could give me a reason to upgrade to the Max...
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My guess is poor aim???
Another speed trap - 440 outer exiting Hammond. NCHP usually sits in the middle median facing north.
Last month I exited and turned right (south) on Hammond and in about 5 seconds, my laser warning went nuts. I was doing 44 in a 45 so no worries on my end. RPD was standing 20 feet away from his car, at the first right turn (undeveloped cul-de-sac) about 1320 feet south of the exit onto Hammond.
Interesting enough, I think the officer had trouble getting a reading because I was the only car around and he was aimed at me for a good 10 seconds. The 9500IX would not shut-up. My guess is (and I would appreciated being corrected) that laser readings require some skill to get focused on a reflective surface, on a Corvette, that actually gives a reading? And if so, a driver has some moments in that time to adjust speed?
Another speed trap - 440 outer exiting Hammond. NCHP usually sits in the middle median facing north.
Last month I exited and turned right (south) on Hammond and in about 5 seconds, my laser warning went nuts. I was doing 44 in a 45 so no worries on my end. RPD was standing 20 feet away from his car, at the first right turn (undeveloped cul-de-sac) about 1320 feet south of the exit onto Hammond.
Interesting enough, I think the officer had trouble getting a reading because I was the only car around and he was aimed at me for a good 10 seconds. The 9500IX would not shut-up. My guess is (and I would appreciated being corrected) that laser readings require some skill to get focused on a reflective surface, on a Corvette, that actually gives a reading? And if so, a driver has some moments in that time to adjust speed?
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Anyway, back to your question: if the heads up targeting display is crooked then you might see someone taking forever to get a reading. BUT, if they are doing as trained, they are doing certain accuracy checks prior to using the laser to ensure this isnt the case..............The display is fairly easy to mess up, one drop the laser onto the floor can mess it up.............So technically yes, if the beam wasn't striking a flat surface bc the targeting retical was off, your detector would give you enough time to slow down before he/she got a reading.