05 C6 - Random SCS issue
#1
05 C6 - Random SCS issue
Excuse the language, or don't, I don't care. I am just so tired of random **** going on with this damn car. I had the stock plugs changed about a year ago to NGK TR55's still using the same stock wires. No issues. About 7 months later, I did a head/cam swap myself. Afterwards, sporadically, I'd get a SCS flash up for about 2 seconds and disappear. No issues other than that randomly happening. Last week, I decided to change the wires out since they needed to be replaced (100k miles and some rough motor issues). I get the MSD's hook them up, and guess what, SCS messages all the time to the point where my alternator apparently isn't charging the battery at all and today on my way home from work, I barely made it to a golf course to park. Voltage went down to like 8v. So after reading ALL these freaking threads on this issue, the issues vary everywhere. I tried purchasing stock ACDELCO 41-110 plugs with MSD wires, NOPE. Same error. Went and purchased stock GM plug wires which are the ACDELCO wires, I even put the GM plug wire shields on them. Same thing. So right now, my ****ing piece of **** car is sitting in a gas station unable to charge its ****ing battery because this all started when I changed my wires to MSDs. The battery is 2 months old, cables are clean. In about 20 minutes I'm going to charge the battery as much as I can and attempt to make it home so I can rip the alternator out and check it, even though I know that isn't the problem. So my question is this, well, it's two questions actually.
#1) WHAT THE **** DO I DO
#2) Anybody want a 05 with stage 2 heads/cam with 3k stall for cheap?
#1) WHAT THE **** DO I DO
#2) Anybody want a 05 with stage 2 heads/cam with 3k stall for cheap?
#6
Race Director
Does sound like the alternator or between the alternator and battery.
But with theses new cars and having done some mods I really do not know other than what's been already said.
Good luck and maybe you need another perspective involved.
But with theses new cars and having done some mods I really do not know other than what's been already said.
Good luck and maybe you need another perspective involved.
Last edited by Boomer111; 04-22-2013 at 10:11 PM.
#8
Excuse the language, or don't, I don't care. I am just so tired of random **** going on with this damn car. I had the stock plugs changed about a year ago to NGK TR55's still using the same stock wires. No issues. About 7 months later, I did a head/cam swap myself. Afterwards, sporadically, I'd get a SCS flash up for about 2 seconds and disappear. No issues other than that randomly happening. Last week, I decided to change the wires out since they needed to be replaced (100k miles and some rough motor issues). I get the MSD's hook them up, and guess what, SCS messages all the time to the point where my alternator apparently isn't charging the battery at all and today on my way home from work, I barely made it to a golf course to park. Voltage went down to like 8v. So after reading ALL these freaking threads on this issue, the issues vary everywhere. I tried purchasing stock ACDELCO 41-110 plugs with MSD wires, NOPE. Same error. Went and purchased stock GM plug wires which are the ACDELCO wires, I even put the GM plug wire shields on them. Same thing. So right now, my ****ing piece of **** car is sitting in a gas station unable to charge its ****ing battery because this all started when I changed my wires to MSDs. The battery is 2 months old, cables are clean. In about 20 minutes I'm going to charge the battery as much as I can and attempt to make it home so I can rip the alternator out and check it, even though I know that isn't the problem. So my question is this, well, it's two questions actually.
#1) WHAT THE **** DO I DO
#2) Anybody want a 05 with stage 2 heads/cam with 3k stall for cheap?
#1) WHAT THE **** DO I DO
#2) Anybody want a 05 with stage 2 heads/cam with 3k stall for cheap?
#10
You clearly have not read the hundreds of posts on the issue. I was hoping to get some responses from the guys that have ran into this exact situation from using NGK's to ACDELCO 41-110 plugs.
#11
Race Director
Curious, if you read hundreds of threads concerning issues with NGK's why did you use them. I've read about it too and would never consider using them because of what I've read.
#12
I read about the issue just recently. If you read what I stated above, I didn't have this issue with the NGK TR55's and my stock wires. Now even with putting the NGK TR55's with new stock wires I'm still having the issue. That is what is driving me crazy.
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sounds like something related to what you may have unintentionally done w. the swap. but at going on 9 years old, and over 100K miles, that alternator sounds like it may be due, or something around it such as wires leading to parts of charging system.
is there any other non-stock load you put on the electrical/charging system---new nav, stereo, sub, alarm, blendmount, ipod, etc.?
is there any other non-stock load you put on the electrical/charging system---new nav, stereo, sub, alarm, blendmount, ipod, etc.?
#16
Safety Car
I did have charging issues with TR6's (as described by many threads). I changed out the TR6's to the LS9 factory plugs (because of FI) and the charging issues went away immediately.
#17
sounds like something related to what you may have unintentionally done w. the swap. but at going on 9 years old, and over 100K miles, that alternator sounds like it may be due, or something around it such as wires leading to parts of charging system.
is there any other non-stock load you put on the electrical/charging system---new nav, stereo, sub, alarm, blendmount, ipod, etc.?
is there any other non-stock load you put on the electrical/charging system---new nav, stereo, sub, alarm, blendmount, ipod, etc.?
#18
I put on the MSD's with no issues whatsoever, I also believe it might be your alternator.
I did have charging issues with TR6's (as described by many threads). I changed out the TR6's to the LS9 factory plugs (because of FI) and the charging issues went away immediately.
I did have charging issues with TR6's (as described by many threads). I changed out the TR6's to the LS9 factory plugs (because of FI) and the charging issues went away immediately.
#19
Melting Slicks
can you get the car towed home? when you get it there you can start checking stuff without being rushed. I would start with the battery & ground cables. check down at the starter & solenoid, sometimes the connectors melt/break. then check the wires at the alternator. the unit & battery can be checked at a parts store. you may also want to check the horn, see if it blows. I remember hearing that the alternator and horn share a fuse ? and finally I have heard that some cars don't like the ngk spark plugs.
I know you are pissed, but outside of paying some monkey to start throwing parts and misdiagnosing your car, get it home relax and take your time.
I know you are pissed, but outside of paying some monkey to start throwing parts and misdiagnosing your car, get it home relax and take your time.
#20
can you get the car towed home? when you get it there you can start checking stuff without being rushed. I would start with the battery & ground cables. check down at the starter & solenoid, sometimes the connectors melt/break. then check the wires at the alternator. the unit & battery can be checked at a parts store. you may also want to check the horn, see if it blows. I remember hearing that the alternator and horn share a fuse ? and finally I have heard that some cars don't like the ngk spark plugs.
I know you are pissed, but outside of paying some monkey to start throwing parts and misdiagnosing your car, get it home relax and take your time.
I know you are pissed, but outside of paying some monkey to start throwing parts and misdiagnosing your car, get it home relax and take your time.