My COW review (Brutally honest and NOT a fight/bash thread!!)
#21
Drifting
True only if the actual running temp is 160*. LS engines with stock rad. will consistently run @ 176*to 180* with a 160* stat , which is optimum . Which is why numerous engine builders and tuners specify their use. Incidentally , GM offers a 160*stat for the LS engines .
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Best Mod I have to date... Love my Cow Tune!!!!!!!!!!
Your review is exactly what I experienced. A true professional and a great guy!!!!!!!!
By the way, that rough shift when you slow down and then accel, is normal with the tune. I still get it once in a while, but I believe it is nothing to worry about...
Had my tune done a year ago...
Steve
Your review is exactly what I experienced. A true professional and a great guy!!!!!!!!
By the way, that rough shift when you slow down and then accel, is normal with the tune. I still get it once in a while, but I believe it is nothing to worry about...
Had my tune done a year ago...
Steve
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St. Jude Donor '07-'08-'09-'10-'12-'13-'14
Thank you EVERYONE!
Best Mod I have to date... Love my Cow Tune!!!!!!!!!!
Your review is exactly what I experienced. A true professional and a great guy!!!!!!!!
By the way, that rough shift when you slow down and then accel, is normal with the tune. I still get it once in a while, but I believe it is nothing to worry about...
Had my tune done a year ago...
Steve
Your review is exactly what I experienced. A true professional and a great guy!!!!!!!!
By the way, that rough shift when you slow down and then accel, is normal with the tune. I still get it once in a while, but I believe it is nothing to worry about...
Had my tune done a year ago...
Steve
Thank you EVERYONE!
It's always nice to see sooo many people enjoying what we offer here.
Thanks again!
Chuck CoW
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Drifting
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#25
Pro
I drove 710mi. to Chuck's shop on Monday to have 3:42 gears installed. That should say plenty about the quality of Chucks work!! If you guys that have the stat.tune,booster love how it wakes up the car;try adding the 3:42s like I just did. It totally changes the dynamics. It was a fun ride home!! (07 base)
#26
I drove 710mi. to Chuck's shop on Monday to have 3:42 gears installed. That should say plenty about the quality of Chucks work!! If you guys that have the stat.tune,booster love how it wakes up the car;try adding the 3:42s like I just did. It totally changes the dynamics. It was a fun ride home!! (07 base)
Distance traveled means nothing in terms of attesting to quality. Just saying.
Carry on with being amazed by what any tune will do.
#27
Drifting
When Chuck tuned in Oklahoma in association with the NCCO show he had people drive from 3 surrounding states to get tuned from him. A couple had gotten tunes somewhere else and he was able to fix them. One came because his dad and other friends had gotten a tune from Chuck. All said it was worth the trip. Chuck gets many of naysayers from people who have never used him. I have used him and I am very pleased.
He will be back in Oklahoma in June, so if that is closer to anyone at the same time you can attend a great show.
NCCO show flyer----->http://www.badimagegraphics.com/files/2013nccoLarge.pdf
He will be back in Oklahoma in June, so if that is closer to anyone at the same time you can attend a great show.
NCCO show flyer----->http://www.badimagegraphics.com/files/2013nccoLarge.pdf
#28
There are plenty of bad tuners out there. It's easy to tune WOT, a monkey could. Drivability isn't easy to achieve like stock, especially when modified.
But it's not a miracle, either, and if you drive from surrounding states, that's nice and all, but you can usually find a tuner who is at least as good as Chuck, closer. But if they're happy, that's what matters.
But again, most people on here would be busy looking for the transmission dipstick on the car and mistake the oil dipstick for it, so I don't trust anything most people here say. Especially if your corvette is covered in tacky chrome pieces.
But it's not a miracle, either, and if you drive from surrounding states, that's nice and all, but you can usually find a tuner who is at least as good as Chuck, closer. But if they're happy, that's what matters.
But again, most people on here would be busy looking for the transmission dipstick on the car and mistake the oil dipstick for it, so I don't trust anything most people here say. Especially if your corvette is covered in tacky chrome pieces.
#29
Drifting
Been wrenching on cars for close to 40 years, back in the days when cars had carburetors, with jets in them and distributors with points in them so I am pretty familiar with cars. Except for a alignment job Chuck is the only person who has worked on my vette besides my son in-law and I. If I thought that I could buy a tuner and tune it myself I would have, but there is no way I could come close to how much experience and knowledge he has. As said before there will always be naysayers, especially on the web. I am just always amazed how some feel the need to go negative on something they have never experienced. If you do experience Chuck you will be amazed how much time he will spend on your car to get not only a custom tune but a personal tune to your likings.
My build: http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...extreme-6.html
My build: http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...extreme-6.html
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There are plenty of bad tuners out there. It's easy to tune WOT, a monkey could. Drivability isn't easy to achieve like stock, especially when modified.
But it's not a miracle, either, and if you drive from surrounding states, that's nice and all, but you can usually find a tuner who is at least as good as Chuck, closer. But if they're happy, that's what matters.
But again, most people on here would be busy looking for the transmission dipstick on the car and mistake the oil dipstick for it, so I don't trust anything most people here say. Especially if your corvette is covered in tacky chrome pieces.
But it's not a miracle, either, and if you drive from surrounding states, that's nice and all, but you can usually find a tuner who is at least as good as Chuck, closer. But if they're happy, that's what matters.
But again, most people on here would be busy looking for the transmission dipstick on the car and mistake the oil dipstick for it, so I don't trust anything most people here say. Especially if your corvette is covered in tacky chrome pieces.
There are also those on this forum that do a lot of the wrenching on their cars themselves and can even take them apart and put them together again...if they so chose...
As for choosing one person or company over another that's the whole point of customer service or a lack thereof...all Apple does is make computers and MP3 players and tablet computers...many others do the same thing...the difference is they do it BETTER....
I trust the opinions of those who have used a particular product or service, anything else is opinion based on nothing
#31
Yes there are plenty of bad tuners and Chuck is NOT one of them in my and many others experiences, I also think that blanket statements based on nothing are truly useless ie: "most people on here would be busy looking for the transmission dipstick on the car and mistake the oil dipstick for it"
There are also those on this forum that do a lot of the wrenching on their cars themselves and can even take them apart and put them together again...if they so chose...
As for choosing one person or company over another that's the whole point of customer service or a lack thereof...all Apple does is make computers and MP3 players and tablet computers...many others do the same thing...the difference is they do it BETTER....
I trust the opinions of those who have used a particular product or service, anything else is opinion based on nothing
There are also those on this forum that do a lot of the wrenching on their cars themselves and can even take them apart and put them together again...if they so chose...
As for choosing one person or company over another that's the whole point of customer service or a lack thereof...all Apple does is make computers and MP3 players and tablet computers...many others do the same thing...the difference is they do it BETTER....
I trust the opinions of those who have used a particular product or service, anything else is opinion based on nothing
It's a generational thing. As the corvette gets cheaper, the people who actually know cars can start to afford them. And so as time goes on, the c6 will have better members. Now, not so much.
And I'm happy you trust people who have used it, but I can bring up the Ponzi scheme. A whole bunch of people trusted that and recommended that, but what happened in the end? Everyone, except those involved, got screwed. That's why I don't listen to people who have no idea what they're talking about, no matter how many people say something good. It's like multiplying by zero. You can have ten thousand with zero experience vouch, but you still end up with zero.
Like I said, I'm not bashing chuck and I'm not shying people away, I'm just laughing at the humor in this situation.
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And I'm happy you trust people who have used it, but I can bring up the Ponzi scheme. A whole bunch of people trusted that and recommended that, but what happened in the end? Everyone, except those involved, got screwed. That's why I don't listen to people who have no idea what they're talking about, no matter how many people say something good. It's like multiplying by zero. You can have ten thousand with zero experience vouch, but you still end up with zero.
Like I said, I'm not bashing chuck and I'm not shying people away, I'm just laughing at the humor in this situation.
Like I said, I'm not bashing chuck and I'm not shying people away, I'm just laughing at the humor in this situation.
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St. Jude Donor '07-'08-'09-'10-'12-'13-'14
Thanks Pal!
I drove 710mi. to Chuck's shop on Monday to have 3:42 gears installed. That should say plenty about the quality of Chucks work!! If you guys that have the stat.tune,booster love how it wakes up the car;try adding the 3:42s like I just did. It totally changes the dynamics. It was a fun ride home!! (07 base)
Always a pleasure to have you super nice "southern guys" make the ride up to see us!
Thanks again!
Chuck CoW
#35
Fact of the matter is it does nothing unless you are highly modified. In fact, it is better to run a little hotter for a cleaner running engine, both internally and externally.
#36
Drifting
Both of our cars run 172-180* which is right where i like it.
Corvette engineer running a 160* in his own car Link:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/1547302169-post5.html
#37
Do you know what a Ponzi scheme is? Whether think you know or not, google it. Maybe you'll figure it out.
Lots of people recommending something that thought was good, but didn't really know about, and they all got screwed.
Lots of people recommending something that thought was good, but didn't really know about, and they all got screwed.
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I met Chuck when he came to Wichita to tune a bunch of vettes in our vette club.
He spent a significant amount of time tuning one of my vettes, and he was laser locked on making it exactly like I wanted, which he did.
Dude works like a mule, is great to talk with, and a stand-up guy. I've recommended him to skads of people.
He spent a significant amount of time tuning one of my vettes, and he was laser locked on making it exactly like I wanted, which he did.
Dude works like a mule, is great to talk with, and a stand-up guy. I've recommended him to skads of people.
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Yes there are plenty of bad tuners and Chuck is NOT one of them in my and many others experiences, I also think that blanket statements based on nothing are truly useless ie: "most people on here would be busy looking for the transmission dipstick on the car and mistake the oil dipstick for it"
There are also those on this forum that do a lot of the wrenching on their cars themselves and can even take them apart and put them together again...if they so chose...
As for choosing one person or company over another that's the whole point of customer service or a lack thereof...all Apple does is make computers and MP3 players and tablet computers...many others do the same thing...the difference is they do it BETTER....
I trust the opinions of those who have used a particular product or service, anything else is opinion based on nothing
There are also those on this forum that do a lot of the wrenching on their cars themselves and can even take them apart and put them together again...if they so chose...
As for choosing one person or company over another that's the whole point of customer service or a lack thereof...all Apple does is make computers and MP3 players and tablet computers...many others do the same thing...the difference is they do it BETTER....
I trust the opinions of those who have used a particular product or service, anything else is opinion based on nothing
Unless you have a personal experience with the person/product the NAYSAYER'S would do us all a favor by not saying ANYTHING!!!!
#40
Drifting
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once again this is starting to bring in the people that haven't used him but have opinions on what he does. Your comparisons are childish at best because you are comparing his tunes to a ponzi scheme. So are all tunes ponzi schemes? Every tuner in the world is a scammer?? If not, then why is he? Especially when you haven't seen what he does. The people that actually used him and had a bad experience with him can express their situation and they'll be heard, but i don't care who you are, you can't please everybody, so of course there are some people that aren't satisfied. I found bad reviews on ECS, and several other tuners that i researched before going with chuck, plus, all the bad reviews of people that actually used chuck seem to have been from many years ago. I did not find any bad experiences from someone that used him recently. He has been working on corvettes for a long time, is very smart, and learned everything he could to be an expert at his craft. If i went with jeremy formato, or ECS, or speed engineering, or even a diablo tune i probably would be happy with their product too UNLESS SOMETHING WENT WRONG!!! This guy is top notch at what he does. If i need to go back to him i'm sure i will be treated as i was last week, if not then i will let as many people as i can know what happened so they are informed. Everyone that has used him in the last couple of years are happy, and i am too.....