C6 2005 with scary thing soft radiator Pipe ?!? Need help
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C6 2005 with scary thing soft radiator Pipe ?!? Need help
Dont post much on forums as I can usually do a search and find everything I need, but have not found this one yet.
Background - Auto 2005 C6- super stock 89K miles - owned for 2 month. Runs cool driving around, but at idle temp will go to 226. Runs 195 to 205 at highway
Never race with it or drive hard
The wather Temp is between 20c to 28c
fan operate at correct temps 220f When A/c off
Enging oil temp reach max 230f
Transmisstion field reach 220f
Good air flow with fans on.
No visiable leaks - been parking on card board.
Have not had to top off overflow tank
Today moring I thought I would see if it was air in the system. Took sergent tank cap I noticed that the cap is not holding the prusser
So I had replace it with new one .
Now I notice another scary thing the radiator both upper & lower pipe are very soft like its empty but the sergent tank is half-full with coolent water
Also even if the temp is 220f I can open the cap and still no pressure
In normal cases the water should blow out???
With the engine off still the pipe are soft
I feel that the engine is getting overheat
don't know what is going on but for sure some thing is not right about getting a soft pipe ....!!?
Any suggestions
Background - Auto 2005 C6- super stock 89K miles - owned for 2 month. Runs cool driving around, but at idle temp will go to 226. Runs 195 to 205 at highway
Never race with it or drive hard
The wather Temp is between 20c to 28c
fan operate at correct temps 220f When A/c off
Enging oil temp reach max 230f
Transmisstion field reach 220f
Good air flow with fans on.
No visiable leaks - been parking on card board.
Have not had to top off overflow tank
Today moring I thought I would see if it was air in the system. Took sergent tank cap I noticed that the cap is not holding the prusser
So I had replace it with new one .
Now I notice another scary thing the radiator both upper & lower pipe are very soft like its empty but the sergent tank is half-full with coolent water
Also even if the temp is 220f I can open the cap and still no pressure
In normal cases the water should blow out???
With the engine off still the pipe are soft
I feel that the engine is getting overheat
don't know what is going on but for sure some thing is not right about getting a soft pipe ....!!?
Any suggestions
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yep fill it with distilled water, run it for a while, then top if off with more water if necessary.
if it keeps draining down then start the search for a coolant leak...
if it keeps draining down then start the search for a coolant leak...
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or do you mean that I have to over fill it
I think I'm getting crazy about it
#7
dont overfill it - drive it or let it idle for a while then check the fluid level.
depending how you drive it and how long you drive it, the car seems like its normal
depending how you drive it and how long you drive it, the car seems like its normal
#8
I was keep on monitoring the water level but its always at factory max & Never get less !??
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Le Mans Master
With the overflow tank filled to the correct level, when cold, remove the rad cap and fill the rad up to the bottom of the opening and replace the cap. You can also remove the cap when cold, fire up the motor and watch down the opening and when it warms up if the thermostat is working correctly, you'll see the coolant level in the rad go down when it opens or maybe disappear altogether. When it does, top off the rad with coolant up to the bottom of the rad cap opening and replace the cap. Then you'll know for sure that the system has enough coolant in it. Soft hoses when warm means there is no pressure in the system and that something is wrong.
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This now my problem the car is running and the temp reach 210 Even if I drive in rush-hour and temp will be 225f still pipe is soft ?!
Believe it or not I can open the cap and on the same time no Pressure or water came out the only thing I can feel is the super hot coolant at 230 or more
I'm living in Middle East specific in Bahrain
Last edited by Power V8; 03-23-2013 at 06:56 PM.
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Le Mans Master
This now my problem the car is running and the temp reach 210 Even if I drive in rush-hour and temp will be 225f still pipe is soft ?!
Believe it or not I can open the cap and on the same time no Pressure or water came out the only thing I can feel is the super hot coolant at 230 or more
Believe it or not I can open the cap and on the same time no Pressure or water came out the only thing I can feel is the super hot coolant at 230 or more
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Correct me if I'm wrong
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When the coolant is cold, the level in your overflow tank should be lower than when it's hot.
There is a hard-to-see "Full Cold" mark on the front of the plastic tank.
Check that the coolant is at or very slightly above that mark when cold in the morning. Then drive the car long enough to get the coolant temp above 190'F for about 5 minutes or longer. Stop and recheck the level. If it has increased about 25mm or a little more, then everything is probably connected properly. If the level doesn't change, something is wrong. These checks must be done on a level surface, best is to do both checks when parked in the same location.
There is a hard-to-see "Full Cold" mark on the front of the plastic tank.
Check that the coolant is at or very slightly above that mark when cold in the morning. Then drive the car long enough to get the coolant temp above 190'F for about 5 minutes or longer. Stop and recheck the level. If it has increased about 25mm or a little more, then everything is probably connected properly. If the level doesn't change, something is wrong. These checks must be done on a level surface, best is to do both checks when parked in the same location.
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When the coolant is cold, the level in your overflow tank should be lower than when it's hot.
There is a hard-to-see "Full Cold" mark on the front of the plastic tank.
Check that the coolant is at or very slightly above that mark when cold in the morning. Then drive the car long enough to get the coolant temp above 190'F for about 5 minutes or longer. Stop and recheck the level. If it has increased about 25mm or a little more, then everything is probably connected properly. If the level doesn't change, something is wrong. These checks must be done on a level surface, best is to do both checks when parked in the same location.
There is a hard-to-see "Full Cold" mark on the front of the plastic tank.
Check that the coolant is at or very slightly above that mark when cold in the morning. Then drive the car long enough to get the coolant temp above 190'F for about 5 minutes or longer. Stop and recheck the level. If it has increased about 25mm or a little more, then everything is probably connected properly. If the level doesn't change, something is wrong. These checks must be done on a level surface, best is to do both checks when parked in the same location.
Now I have replace the termostat with new one and just to make sure from the old termo I have test it on hot water and guess what it was working perfectly
so I know the problem is not from the termostat
I will do the process u post and will update you
Last edited by Power V8; 03-26-2013 at 07:21 AM.
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If it does not build up pressure in the system, then there is a leak. It is usually the cap. You said you have replaced the cap. Check the cap with a pressure check. It may not work or it is the wrong cap. It all that checks out then the leak is elsewhere. If you are not loosing coolant it may be around the tank above the water line. Water pumps have been known to leak but usually can be seen dripping.
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If it does not build up pressure in the system, then there is a leak. It is usually the cap. You said you have replaced the cap. Check the cap with a pressure check. It may not work or it is the wrong cap. It all that checks out then the leak is elsewhere. If you are not loosing coolant it may be around the tank above the water line. Water pumps have been known to leak but usually can be seen dripping.
But still the engine temp reach 220f
Also tran oil reach 220f and engine oil temp reach 230f
Is it normal Or should I fix an after market tran cooler....
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There is nothing wrong if the system has pressure and the coolant temp doesn't go over 220F.
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And it's all the time like this which make me scare of future trans slipping
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On my C4 the fan does not come on till water reaches 240. Factory setting.