Goodyear F1 Supercar's.. Is there a significant difference in the 2 tread patterns?
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Goodyear F1 Supercar's.. Is there a significant difference in the 2 tread patterns?
Reason I ask....
When I had my blowout in the Mojave a week or so ago, the right rear tire was replaced with the a GY F1 of different tread design.. it was the only one available to get us back on the road and home!!
Now I have one brand new tire in one tread pattern, and 3 somewhat worn tires in the original pattern.
Is the more "traditional" tread GY as harsh riding, loud, etc as the more "performance-appearing" tread.
I will be replacing tires this spring, and would like to know if I should be shopping for ALL FOUR new tires (Michelin's, Bridgestones, etc) or only for THREE GY's to match my NEW right rear tire...??
I have already read about how unpopular the GY's are (not sure which tread design or are they BOTH just as unpopular?) and how great the other brands are considered...
Original tires...
Replacement tire...
Thanks!!!
When I had my blowout in the Mojave a week or so ago, the right rear tire was replaced with the a GY F1 of different tread design.. it was the only one available to get us back on the road and home!!
Now I have one brand new tire in one tread pattern, and 3 somewhat worn tires in the original pattern.
Is the more "traditional" tread GY as harsh riding, loud, etc as the more "performance-appearing" tread.
I will be replacing tires this spring, and would like to know if I should be shopping for ALL FOUR new tires (Michelin's, Bridgestones, etc) or only for THREE GY's to match my NEW right rear tire...??
I have already read about how unpopular the GY's are (not sure which tread design or are they BOTH just as unpopular?) and how great the other brands are considered...
Original tires...
Replacement tire...
Thanks!!!
#2
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Your replacement tire is the Gen 1 version of your original Gen 2 tires.
That's all I know. Did you notice any difference in the way the car handled with two different tread designs on the rear? Just wondering.
That's all I know. Did you notice any difference in the way the car handled with two different tread designs on the rear? Just wondering.
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Not at all, of course the new tire was on the rear, so probably not as noticeable as if it was on the front..
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They're different tires. The G:2s are 'extreme summer' (G1s are 'max summer'), and reportedly a lot stickier. I'd change it asap, if only because car looks like crap . Plus it could get dangerous if you get on the throttle and that new tire breaks loose first, putting your car sideways in a hurry. And also if you start pushing the car in the twisties. Or in heavy rain. Why neuter the car like that? But it's your call. Good luck.
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Not sure how much difference there is in tread depth for you, but tire expert Wolfdogs once said that he would not want more than 2/32" difference between two tires. Especially on the rear, where it can also help wear out the clutches in your differential.
Fortunately, I have no personal experience there.
Fortunately, I have no personal experience there.
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I would shop for 4 new tires - non-Goodyear myself.
But it would be a fine option to get 3 new to match your 'new 1', most especially if you want to keep cost lower and if you are happy with the GY tires.
The 2 different rear tires currently on your car is something I would want corrected asap.
But it would be a fine option to get 3 new to match your 'new 1', most especially if you want to keep cost lower and if you are happy with the GY tires.
The 2 different rear tires currently on your car is something I would want corrected asap.
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Not sure how much difference there is in tread depth for you, but tire expert Wolfdogs once said that he would not want more than 2/32" difference between two tires. Especially on the rear, where it can also help wear out the clutches in your differential.
Fortunately, I have no personal experience there.
Fortunately, I have no personal experience there.
I'm sure there is 2/32's or greater difference in the two rears, but I have not measured it..
Thanks...
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I would consider replacing with Michelins. If you can live with non runflats a fantastic tire is the Michelin Super Sports. If you can't Bridgestone has a runflat. Both are around $1600 a set. The rear goodyear will set you back about $600 alone.
Any details/pics of the blowout. I've seen a few Goodyear runflats blown out, not a single Michelin for some reason.
Any details/pics of the blowout. I've seen a few Goodyear runflats blown out, not a single Michelin for some reason.
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I would consider replacing with Michelins. If you can live with non runflats a fantastic tire is the Michelin Super Sports. If you can't Bridgestone has a runflat. Both are around $1600 a set. The rear goodyear will set you back about $600 alone.
Any details/pics of the blowout. I've seen a few Goodyear runflats blown out, not a single Michelin for some reason.
Any details/pics of the blowout. I've seen a few Goodyear runflats blown out, not a single Michelin for some reason.
The rear GY is actually about $450...close to $500 with install..
Ran over a cargo strap, obviously with a buckle attached!
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A cargo strap will definitely take care of a tire. I guess you can be glad that the front tire didn't run over it also.
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btw your cost per mile with michelins is way less than a compareable tire....i got 15000 on michelins and they appear new versus 10000 miles on good years and the cords were showing
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Not sure how much difference there is in tread depth for you, but tire expert Wolfdogs once said that he would not want more than 2/32" difference between two tires. Especially on the rear, where it can also help wear out the clutches in your differential.
Fortunately, I have no personal experience there.
Fortunately, I have no personal experience there.
I'd imagine the problem would be much worse with nearly four times the horsepower going to the ground, though it seems that the Miata's torsen limited slip is much more active under deceleration than the Corvette's limited slip.
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I was near Baker in the Mojave Desert. Got towed 105 miles to Las Vegas! That was the closest and only tire available!
We drove 1300 miles from Vegas to Bakersfield, to Seattle. There were NO noticeable handling issues, none at all.. I did not drive it "gingerly" either... very hard accelerations on interstate on ramps, higher speeds enroute (80+), aggressive downshifts... no problems.
We left Vegas at about 70*, hit VERY HEAVY rain in Bakersfield, and temps down to 25* at Mt Shasta. NO ISSUES.
Maybe I was just lucky....for 1300 miles?
I purchased a '95 Miata with one slightly more worn tire on the rear. With just 100 HP to the rear wheels, it would veer one way during acceleration, and veer the other way under deceleration, entirely due to the tire size difference. It had a high quality alignment that did not help, but the problem went away entirely with a new set of wheels all around.
I'd imagine the problem would be much worse with nearly four times the horsepower going to the ground, though it seems that the Miata's torsen limited slip is much more active under deceleration than the Corvette's limited slip.
I'd imagine the problem would be much worse with nearly four times the horsepower going to the ground, though it seems that the Miata's torsen limited slip is much more active under deceleration than the Corvette's limited slip.
We left Vegas at about 70*, hit VERY HEAVY rain in Bakersfield, and temps down to 25* at Mt Shasta. NO ISSUES.
Maybe I was just lucky....for 1300 miles?
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e drove 1300 miles from Vegas to Bakersfield, to Seattle. There were NO noticeable handling issues, none at all.. I did not drive it "gingerly" either... very hard accelerations on interstate on ramps, higher speeds enroute (80+), aggressive downshifts... no problems.
We left Vegas at about 70*, hit VERY HEAVY rain in Bakersfield, and temps down to 25* at Mt Shasta. NO ISSUES.
Maybe I was just lucky....for 1300 miles?
We left Vegas at about 70*, hit VERY HEAVY rain in Bakersfield, and temps down to 25* at Mt Shasta. NO ISSUES.
Maybe I was just lucky....for 1300 miles?
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I was near Baker in the Mojave Desert. Got towed 105 miles to Las Vegas! That was the closest and only tire available!
We drove 1300 miles from Vegas to Bakersfield, to Seattle. There were NO noticeable handling issues, none at all.. I did not drive it "gingerly" either... very hard accelerations on interstate on ramps, higher speeds enroute (80+), aggressive downshifts... no problems.
We left Vegas at about 70*, hit VERY HEAVY rain in Bakersfield, and temps down to 25* at Mt Shasta. NO ISSUES.
Maybe I was just lucky....for 1300 miles?
We drove 1300 miles from Vegas to Bakersfield, to Seattle. There were NO noticeable handling issues, none at all.. I did not drive it "gingerly" either... very hard accelerations on interstate on ramps, higher speeds enroute (80+), aggressive downshifts... no problems.
We left Vegas at about 70*, hit VERY HEAVY rain in Bakersfield, and temps down to 25* at Mt Shasta. NO ISSUES.
Maybe I was just lucky....for 1300 miles?
But i would still try to get all 4 tires the same in both tread and wear.
Unfortunately, that may mean $$$$.
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Unfortunately the time the tires are tested 100% is usually during an emergency. Goodyears are garbage for the rain/cold compared to any Michelin. Bridgestone is also a better option.