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#161
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honestly if you're interested I have 6 or 8 Z220's (the predecessor to the studio series). I'll be using 5 so i you wanted 1 or 2 I might be able to accommodate..the z220's w/o burr brown work are 220.00 each..pm me if you're interested. note I'm in the mode of relocating so I'm in TN once per month. If you want any zapcos be patient and PM me, next trip home is the 26th.
#162
2. If I remember correctly, you're taking the headphone out to the pre-ins on a harness that connects to the bose amp, correct? If so, you'll need to install a line driver in between the tablets in the pre-ins. That'll make a big difference without distorting the signal like the bybyte amp would, since your boosting the pre-amp signal instead of amplifying the signal twice.
Running wires, removing half the paneling in the car, and making a professional looking MDF rack and speaker set up is alot of work!
With the memory card, I am going to write a email to Newegg and/or Team to see if they have any advice.
#163
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Correct, I dont have the bybyte wired in. I may try it, see how the distortion is before considering a line driver. The Volume+ app boosts the volume, but it causes distortion, so it's out. On the other hand, if I need to spend more money correcting this Blose ****, I think I would rather just rip it out. I have some old Fosgate power series amps from the 90s sitting around, but they are so big...
Running wires, removing half the paneling in the car, and making a professional looking MDF rack and speaker set up is alot of work!
With the memory card, I am going to write a email to Newegg and/or Team to see if they have any advice.
Running wires, removing half the paneling in the car, and making a professional looking MDF rack and speaker set up is alot of work!
With the memory card, I am going to write a email to Newegg and/or Team to see if they have any advice.
To put it into perspective: your common $100 car stereo will have pre-outs of at least 1V, usually 2V or more. The tablet is only putting out somewhere around 200-400mV (rough guess). You're better off getting a line driver opposed to replacing the bose amp or the bybyte amp.
A line driver will simply increase the voltage of your signal without otherwise affecting your audio signal. There is a common misconception that line drivers help sound quality. In 99% of all installs, they don't. There are specific instances that I can think of where they do, but it's rare. If your source signal is noisy, a line driver will increase the voltage level of your noise floor just as it will increase your signal.
In our situation though, that's not what we're worried about. Our problem is that the voltage level of the signal coming out of our tablet is way too low to drive your average amplifier. This causes you to have to increase the amp's gains way too high (if you even have access to them) to get desired max volume, causing the amp to overdrive and clip the signal going to the speakers.
A line driver shouldn't cost much more than the bybyte amp, and is MUCH better suited for your configuration. The only time someone would need to use something like the bybyte, is if their factory amplifier didn't have low-level inputs.
#165
Drifting
Well I finally have all the pieces for my install.. and I ran out of stuff to do the the car so I will start working on mine this week and finish this weekend..
#166
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Thread Starter
#167
I am trying to decide what tablet to use for my own install. Does anyone have any suggestions as to which tablet would fit best in the metra dash kit? I'm sure the dash kit will require modification with any tablet, but any suggestions would be appreciated.
#168
For pure fit, I believe the Nexus 7 was slightly smaller around the edges. I have not looked at Tabs since I purchased mine, so they could have released something smaller in the past 6 months. As long as the screen is 7 inches; the smaller the length and width, the better the fit. The depth does not matter. I dont much care for Apple products, but the new 7" ipad may be smaller if you dont care about the freedom to mod it yourself.
The Nexus 7 doesn't have a MicroSD card slot, otherwise I would have went with it.
The Nexus 7 doesn't have a MicroSD card slot, otherwise I would have went with it.
Last edited by Firewater Burns; 05-11-2013 at 11:06 PM.
#170
Burning Brakes
well I went iPad mini, as I won two 64 gb cellular mini's for patents last year. If you don't like the Apple App Store lockdown, do a bit for bit backup of the OS, as well as a backup in iTunes, then jailbreak it. My full size retina iPad is great, even runs a bluetooth mouse once jailbroken.
I'm getting tied f waiting for these guys to release their kit..kinda like promising vaporwear..it never shows up. Once the wife is in Tulsa after the house sells (I'm relocating), then I'll followup and make the choice who i go with. The Soundman down in Orlando have a neat solution using an Audison Bit One or the like to be the D to A multi-channel converter; probably more expensive to go that way; then again it's not vaporwear either....
My plan will be to do my Zapco's from the Bit One, issues with the ByByte will be hum; as an aside an effective solution is the Behringer hum destroyer HD-400..25USD at Walmart. I have a commercial theater installed in my house in TN (seriously 9.2 7600 real 20 to 20K Hz watts, 13 amps. While I used an isolation transformer with an isolated secondary ground, I still had to use a hum destroyer on my two sub amps. They worked on that and earlier when I had al amps run through them. Save yourself time and headache it you get hum, as the Behringer WORKS. That FL-GL 400 they show on the ByByte website is a weak sister when compared to the HD400.
I'm getting tied f waiting for these guys to release their kit..kinda like promising vaporwear..it never shows up. Once the wife is in Tulsa after the house sells (I'm relocating), then I'll followup and make the choice who i go with. The Soundman down in Orlando have a neat solution using an Audison Bit One or the like to be the D to A multi-channel converter; probably more expensive to go that way; then again it's not vaporwear either....
My plan will be to do my Zapco's from the Bit One, issues with the ByByte will be hum; as an aside an effective solution is the Behringer hum destroyer HD-400..25USD at Walmart. I have a commercial theater installed in my house in TN (seriously 9.2 7600 real 20 to 20K Hz watts, 13 amps. While I used an isolation transformer with an isolated secondary ground, I still had to use a hum destroyer on my two sub amps. They worked on that and earlier when I had al amps run through them. Save yourself time and headache it you get hum, as the Behringer WORKS. That FL-GL 400 they show on the ByByte website is a weak sister when compared to the HD400.
Last edited by The_Raging_Bull; 05-12-2013 at 12:25 AM.
#171
Hey guys, I just wanted to thank you for the work you've shared with the forum. It's been really helpful. I read through a number of your posts and decide to take the plunge myself. I started my own build thread / diary (to not clutter up yours) Here's what I did with my first weekend:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...post1583956490
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...post1583956490
#173
Drifting
Any updates?
I'm very curious to know if there have been any updates or improvements to the system.
Fantastic work and I'm hoping to duplicate this or something very similar.
I'm very curious to know if there have been any updates or improvements to the system.
Fantastic work and I'm hoping to duplicate this or something very similar.
#174
Burning Brakes
if you want result follow the link I put in earlier in the thread, as the folks in Orlando are did good job in integrating the iPad mini, an Audison Bit One and a few nice amps. It just takes Dinero my friend. The OP is glacially slow....
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#177
#178
i just found out all you need is torque and an obd2 bluetooth scanner that works with torque. Actron scanners are all locked and wont work with outside software, on top of being non refundable (supposedly but im going to try anyway.) dont ask me how i know this. Wiki torque and they will list the compatable obd adapters.
#180
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Hey sorry guys, I must've missed the email telling me that this thread got going again. I certainly didn't mean to abandon it. FirewaterBurns is correct, I unfortunately had to make the tough decision to trade in the car, but I'm still happy to contribute to the forum and answer questions.
A couple topics I saw recently:
Regarding the iPad mini: It may be a 7" tablet, but with the wider aspect ratio that the iPads have, there's no way it'd fit between the temp module and the vents. You'd have to do some serious dash modification to go that route. I'm not saying it can't be done, but it was far more hacking up of the dash than I was willing to take on.
Regarding the OBDII integration: I never wanted to go down that route. It just never interested me. I know the app is pretty cool, but I've seen it used, and there is a noticeably annoying delay on anything the screen shows. It's cool to see car diagnostics on your tablet, but it seemed more gimmicky than functional to me.
Again, sorry for the absence. I'm still here, happy to contribute, so if I missed anything, please feel free to ask again, and I'll get back to you!
EDIT: I just went through my emails, and I never got a notification for the latest posts to this thread. This is the second time this has happened. From now on I'll just drop by this thread occasionally to make sure I'm up to date. Hopefully I'll get the notifications in the future though.
A couple topics I saw recently:
Regarding the iPad mini: It may be a 7" tablet, but with the wider aspect ratio that the iPads have, there's no way it'd fit between the temp module and the vents. You'd have to do some serious dash modification to go that route. I'm not saying it can't be done, but it was far more hacking up of the dash than I was willing to take on.
Regarding the OBDII integration: I never wanted to go down that route. It just never interested me. I know the app is pretty cool, but I've seen it used, and there is a noticeably annoying delay on anything the screen shows. It's cool to see car diagnostics on your tablet, but it seemed more gimmicky than functional to me.
Again, sorry for the absence. I'm still here, happy to contribute, so if I missed anything, please feel free to ask again, and I'll get back to you!
EDIT: I just went through my emails, and I never got a notification for the latest posts to this thread. This is the second time this has happened. From now on I'll just drop by this thread occasionally to make sure I'm up to date. Hopefully I'll get the notifications in the future though.
Last edited by SDB_FTW; 11-10-2013 at 02:14 PM.