Do You Wish You Had Laser Jammer Capability
12-24-2012, 02:49 AM
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I've had detectors in the past that saved me money every time it lit up. Had brought an escort 9500xi awhile back, but gave it to my daughter. The torque would always throw the detector in the back of the car. Those suction cups sucked! Now that they have the blendmount's, getting another escort 9500 and 2 blendmounts..1 for the vette and 1 for my duaghter's truck.
I've been pretty lucky so far, only 2 speeding tickets in the past 4 years.
I've been pretty lucky so far, only 2 speeding tickets in the past 4 years.
12-24-2012, 03:06 AM
#22
Melting Slicks
I've had detectors in the past that saved me money every time it lit up. Had brought an escort 9500xi awhile back, but gave it to my daughter. The torque would always throw the detector in the back of the car. Those suction cups sucked! Now that they have the blendmount's, getting another escort 9500 and 2 blendmounts..1 for the vette and 1 for my duaghter's truck.
I've been pretty lucky so far, only 2 speeding tickets in the past 4 years.
I've been pretty lucky so far, only 2 speeding tickets in the past 4 years.
Thats actually kinda bad or unlucky. Not a good avg and you have dectors?
12-24-2012, 03:35 AM
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I received both tickets after I had stopped using the detectors. I had grown tired of those weak suction cups. Flying detectors in the cabin = distraction, which could = accident. Would rather have the ticket, but I'll be armed next driving season with my escort + blendmount.
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12-24-2012, 08:59 AM
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Team Owner
A good laser jammer is the way to go.
12-24-2012, 11:13 AM
#26
Melting Slicks
Now I cant say this is fact but but I have heard that they point at the license plate first and if they cant get a hit the go for the front window to get a reading. The vette is very low profile so should be harder to get a lock on and there is a product out that you paint onto the plate and headlights and even the windshield that makes it even harder to get a lock on. But it puts a slight tint to things so they windshield probably wont be a god idea but I read that it gives you 50% more distance before they can get a lock on you. Forgot the product name but the facts with it and a detector were very imprssive. Gave you alot more time to slow down.
Found it, linky: http://www.radarbusters.com/radar-de.../laserveil.cfm
Found it, linky: http://www.radarbusters.com/radar-de.../laserveil.cfm
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12-24-2012, 03:32 PM
#27
Instructor
I used laser quite a bit when it first came out and for several years. I retired this year and was last in uniform patrol 12 years ago. The first unit was large, about 1/3rd the size of a shoe box. But it was user friendly and the furthest target acquisition for me was approximately 1800 ft. That was a regular sedan with a front license plate on a clear night on a relatively deserted road. This was not an enforcement situation, just an exercise to test range. Under normal circumstances the average acquisition range was approximately 300-400 feet. I have no idea if the newer units have better range qualities, but would not be surprised as all electronic gizmos seem to get better with time.
When we got our first laser unit we operated it on I-90 in Ohio. We never used radar for speed enforcement there previously, it was too difficult with the volume of traffic. But with the laser we could target vehicles at a long enough distance for the chase car to get ample advance warning to accelerate to overtake the violator.
When we started this enforcement the speed limit then was 55 mph. At first we decided to target 70 mph and up for enforcement. However, the volume of cars traveling 70 and above were so plentiful that we had to raise the threshold to 80 mph. 25 over was pretty generous.
As some of you have noted, the front plate is the preferred aiming point. The signal needs to be reflected back to the unit to calculate the speed. Without a front plate acquisition is more difficult and that reduces the range because the unit will continue to send a signal as long as the trigger is depressed. It will then either time out or eventually capture the speed. The range is reduced by your velocity (feet per second) for the seconds that it takes for the unit to acquire a return from the target.
Years ago I read an article in a car magazine (probably Road and Track at the barbershop) about laser stealth. They used a Ford Thunderbird, probably a 90's vintage and successively removed reflective materials or cloaked them to test range. I don't remember if they used any commercial products to achieve this, but it seemed that they could not make the car totally invisible, but were able to dramatically reduce the range.
When we could not acquire the speed from the front of an approaching car we'd let it pass and shoot at the rear. Rear license plate, tail, brake and back up lights all will reflect the signal. If the driver had some sort of detector though, they would have been already warned by the failed frontal attempts. But the vast majority of people we stopped had no detectors, had their Head Up A**, putting on make up at 90 mph, or drunk.
When we got our first laser unit we operated it on I-90 in Ohio. We never used radar for speed enforcement there previously, it was too difficult with the volume of traffic. But with the laser we could target vehicles at a long enough distance for the chase car to get ample advance warning to accelerate to overtake the violator.
When we started this enforcement the speed limit then was 55 mph. At first we decided to target 70 mph and up for enforcement. However, the volume of cars traveling 70 and above were so plentiful that we had to raise the threshold to 80 mph. 25 over was pretty generous.
As some of you have noted, the front plate is the preferred aiming point. The signal needs to be reflected back to the unit to calculate the speed. Without a front plate acquisition is more difficult and that reduces the range because the unit will continue to send a signal as long as the trigger is depressed. It will then either time out or eventually capture the speed. The range is reduced by your velocity (feet per second) for the seconds that it takes for the unit to acquire a return from the target.
Years ago I read an article in a car magazine (probably Road and Track at the barbershop) about laser stealth. They used a Ford Thunderbird, probably a 90's vintage and successively removed reflective materials or cloaked them to test range. I don't remember if they used any commercial products to achieve this, but it seemed that they could not make the car totally invisible, but were able to dramatically reduce the range.
When we could not acquire the speed from the front of an approaching car we'd let it pass and shoot at the rear. Rear license plate, tail, brake and back up lights all will reflect the signal. If the driver had some sort of detector though, they would have been already warned by the failed frontal attempts. But the vast majority of people we stopped had no detectors, had their Head Up A**, putting on make up at 90 mph, or drunk.
12-24-2012, 05:49 PM
#29
Melting Slicks
I used laser quite a bit when it first came out and for several years. I retired this year and was last in uniform patrol 12 years ago. The first unit was large, about 1/3rd the size of a shoe box. But it was user friendly and the furthest target acquisition for me was approximately 1800 ft. That was a regular sedan with a front license plate on a clear night on a relatively deserted road. This was not an enforcement situation, just an exercise to test range. Under normal circumstances the average acquisition range was approximately 300-400 feet. I have no idea if the newer units have better range qualities, but would not be surprised as all electronic gizmos seem to get better with time.
When we got our first laser unit we operated it on I-90 in Ohio. We never used radar for speed enforcement there previously, it was too difficult with the volume of traffic. But with the laser we could target vehicles at a long enough distance for the chase car to get ample advance warning to accelerate to overtake the violator.
When we started this enforcement the speed limit then was 55 mph. At first we decided to target 70 mph and up for enforcement. However, the volume of cars traveling 70 and above were so plentiful that we had to raise the threshold to 80 mph. 25 over was pretty generous.
As some of you have noted, the front plate is the preferred aiming point. The signal needs to be reflected back to the unit to calculate the speed. Without a front plate acquisition is more difficult and that reduces the range because the unit will continue to send a signal as long as the trigger is depressed. It will then either time out or eventually capture the speed. The range is reduced by your velocity (feet per second) for the seconds that it takes for the unit to acquire a return from the target.
Years ago I read an article in a car magazine (probably Road and Track at the barbershop) about laser stealth. They used a Ford Thunderbird, probably a 90's vintage and successively removed reflective materials or cloaked them to test range. I don't remember if they used any commercial products to achieve this, but it seemed that they could not make the car totally invisible, but were able to dramatically reduce the range.
When we could not acquire the speed from the front of an approaching car we'd let it pass and shoot at the rear. Rear license plate, tail, brake and back up lights all will reflect the signal. If the driver had some sort of detector though, they would have been already warned by the failed frontal attempts. But the vast majority of people we stopped had no detectors, had their Head Up A**, putting on make up at 90 mph, or drunk.
When we got our first laser unit we operated it on I-90 in Ohio. We never used radar for speed enforcement there previously, it was too difficult with the volume of traffic. But with the laser we could target vehicles at a long enough distance for the chase car to get ample advance warning to accelerate to overtake the violator.
When we started this enforcement the speed limit then was 55 mph. At first we decided to target 70 mph and up for enforcement. However, the volume of cars traveling 70 and above were so plentiful that we had to raise the threshold to 80 mph. 25 over was pretty generous.
As some of you have noted, the front plate is the preferred aiming point. The signal needs to be reflected back to the unit to calculate the speed. Without a front plate acquisition is more difficult and that reduces the range because the unit will continue to send a signal as long as the trigger is depressed. It will then either time out or eventually capture the speed. The range is reduced by your velocity (feet per second) for the seconds that it takes for the unit to acquire a return from the target.
Years ago I read an article in a car magazine (probably Road and Track at the barbershop) about laser stealth. They used a Ford Thunderbird, probably a 90's vintage and successively removed reflective materials or cloaked them to test range. I don't remember if they used any commercial products to achieve this, but it seemed that they could not make the car totally invisible, but were able to dramatically reduce the range.
When we could not acquire the speed from the front of an approaching car we'd let it pass and shoot at the rear. Rear license plate, tail, brake and back up lights all will reflect the signal. If the driver had some sort of detector though, they would have been already warned by the failed frontal attempts. But the vast majority of people we stopped had no detectors, had their Head Up A**, putting on make up at 90 mph, or drunk.
I see that everyday here and the cell phone and texting and just plain I dont want to look in my mirrors before I change lanes.
12-24-2012, 06:55 PM
#31
Racer
although laser jammers are somewhat legal to own in most states, a cop can arrest you for "interfering with justice"... cops are not that stupid to see a sports car driving faster than traffic and their laser gun not showing a reading... some laser guns can throw a code that they were jammed....
I had a trooper friend tell me, once he got jammed, he told the driver, I can give you the ticket for doing 120 or arrest you for interfering of me doing my job.... driver took the ticket
If I was to get a laser jammer, the new blinder is the way to go.... one of the "loop holes" in their system is that they have a "parking sensors" mode... incase one needs to defend himself in court
I had a trooper friend tell me, once he got jammed, he told the driver, I can give you the ticket for doing 120 or arrest you for interfering of me doing my job.... driver took the ticket
If I was to get a laser jammer, the new blinder is the way to go.... one of the "loop holes" in their system is that they have a "parking sensors" mode... incase one needs to defend himself in court
12-24-2012, 06:58 PM
#32
Melting Slicks
although laser jammers are somewhat legal to own in most states, a cop can arrest you for "interfering with justice"... cops are not that stupid to see a sports car driving faster than traffic and their laser gun not showing a reading... some laser guns can throw a code that they were jammed....
I had a trooper friend tell me, once he got jammed, he told the driver, I can give you the ticket for doing 120 or arrest you for interfering of me doing my job.... driver took the ticket If I was to get a laser jammer, the new blinder is the way to go.... one of the "loop holes" in their system is that they have a "parking sensors" mode... incase one needs to defend himself in court
I had a trooper friend tell me, once he got jammed, he told the driver, I can give you the ticket for doing 120 or arrest you for interfering of me doing my job.... driver took the ticket
If I was to get a laser jammer, the new blinder is the way to go.... one of the "loop holes" in their system is that they have a "parking sensors" mode... incase one needs to defend himself in court
12-24-2012, 09:48 PM
#35
Melting Slicks
I have a V1 and the Laser Interceptor system -- both are pricey -- and 100% worth the money I've spent on it.
The LI system isn't a license to speed - it's another tool you can use to help give yourself those extra few seconds you need to get from 85 to 70 when you need to. Even though my setup is 2.5 years old (and probably due for some software upgrades) from the factory it also has the "parking aid" function so that if a cop ever gets crazy on me... I don't have to be scared. It's 100% fully legal in Texas.
V1 + Laser Interceptor + sharp eyes = 99% trouble free.
The LI system isn't a license to speed - it's another tool you can use to help give yourself those extra few seconds you need to get from 85 to 70 when you need to. Even though my setup is 2.5 years old (and probably due for some software upgrades) from the factory it also has the "parking aid" function so that if a cop ever gets crazy on me... I don't have to be scared. It's 100% fully legal in Texas.
V1 + Laser Interceptor + sharp eyes = 99% trouble free.
12-24-2012, 10:04 PM
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I have a V1 and the Laser Interceptor system -- both are pricey -- and 100% worth the money I've spent on it.
The LI system isn't a license to speed - it's another tool you can use to help give yourself those extra few seconds you need to get from 85 to 70 when you need to. Even though my setup is 2.5 years old (and probably due for some software upgrades) from the factory it also has the "parking aid" function so that if a cop ever gets crazy on me... I don't have to be scared. It's 100% fully legal in Texas.
V1 + Laser Interceptor + sharp eyes = 99% trouble free.
The LI system isn't a license to speed - it's another tool you can use to help give yourself those extra few seconds you need to get from 85 to 70 when you need to. Even though my setup is 2.5 years old (and probably due for some software upgrades) from the factory it also has the "parking aid" function so that if a cop ever gets crazy on me... I don't have to be scared. It's 100% fully legal in Texas.
V1 + Laser Interceptor + sharp eyes = 99% trouble free.
I only have the V1 + sharp eyes. I would love to have the Laser Interceptor
12-25-2012, 01:15 AM
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I have a V1 and the Laser Interceptor system -- both are pricey -- and 100% worth the money I've spent on it.
The LI system isn't a license to speed - it's another tool you can use to help give yourself those extra few seconds you need to get from 85 to 70 when you need to. Even though my setup is 2.5 years old (and probably due for some software upgrades) from the factory it also has the "parking aid" function so that if a cop ever gets crazy on me... I don't have to be scared. It's 100% fully legal in Texas.
V1 + Laser Interceptor + sharp eyes = 99% trouble free.
The LI system isn't a license to speed - it's another tool you can use to help give yourself those extra few seconds you need to get from 85 to 70 when you need to. Even though my setup is 2.5 years old (and probably due for some software upgrades) from the factory it also has the "parking aid" function so that if a cop ever gets crazy on me... I don't have to be scared. It's 100% fully legal in Texas.
V1 + Laser Interceptor + sharp eyes = 99% trouble free.
Go to laser interceptorUSA website and update your firmware now! A lot has changed in the past two years. New laser guns.
12-25-2012, 08:45 AM
#38
Le Mans Master
Not me....doing 60 on a rural hyway is a pain in the azz, but the interstate speeds +5 seem to be enough for me. I quess I'm just getting old.
I do have one of the detectors and blend mount that a forum member sells, but it has never gone off while I was speeding. I just don't speed much. Of course, a GT Mustang will probably bring out the 16 year old in me.
I do have one of the detectors and blend mount that a forum member sells, but it has never gone off while I was speeding. I just don't speed much. Of course, a GT Mustang will probably bring out the 16 year old in me.
12-25-2012, 08:45 AM
#39
Burning Brakes
Do you wish you had a laser jammer / shifter installed? Like what comes with a Escort 9500ci. Or are you content with laser warning like in the V1 or Escort 9500ix?
We are not debating which detector is best here, simply do you wish you had laser jamming / shifter capability?
We are not debating which detector is best here, simply do you wish you had laser jamming / shifter capability?
I'm running the LI's because of the great customer support and the frequent updates from new threats that are showing up on a regular basis lately.
A radar detector is only a ticket notifier when it comes to LIDAR. The Escort system is a weak LED based system that has not been updated for years and exposes the user to all the threats from the newer LIDAR units on the market.
If any of you are in the Atlanta area and want to see these systems work, or get your system tested please PM me and I can take care of those requests for you.
12-25-2012, 08:49 AM
#40
Burning Brakes
I've had detectors in the past that saved me money every time it lit up. Had brought an escort 9500xi awhile back, but gave it to my daughter. The torque would always throw the detector in the back of the car. Those suction cups sucked! Now that they have the blendmount's, getting another escort 9500 and 2 blendmounts..1 for the vette and 1 for my duaghter's truck.
I've been pretty lucky so far, only 2 speeding tickets in the past 4 years.
I've been pretty lucky so far, only 2 speeding tickets in the past 4 years.