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Old 12-09-2012, 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by 5W30
The term Muscle Car has always been thrown around too loosely anyway.
In whose opinion and by what definition of "muscle car?" I am old enough to remember when Pontiac started it. I've owned a '66 GTO with 389 and tri-power, as well as a few other 60's era muscle cars. I can tell you that some of the current cars, such as the wife's '12 Shelby GT500, are every bit as much muscle cars as those earlier ones. It has more power, more torque, and can put that power to the ground much better and safer - and it can stop MUCH better - than any of those earlier muscle cars.

What is and isn't a muscle car has always been an argument in semantics without any definitive answer.
Old 12-09-2012, 10:09 PM
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Too light to be a muscle car ...
Old 12-09-2012, 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve_R
In whose opinion and by what definition of "muscle car?" I am old enough to remember when Pontiac started it. I've owned a '66 GTO with 389 and tri-power, as well as a few other 60's era muscle cars. I can tell you that some of the current cars, such as the wife's '12 Shelby GT500, are every bit as much muscle cars as those earlier ones. It has more power, more torque, and can put that power to the ground much better and safer - and it can stop MUCH better - than any of those earlier muscle cars.

What is and isn't a muscle car has always been an argument in semantics without any definitive answer.
I agree completely. However I premised my statements by saying I was going to be pedantic about it and I stand by my claim that large v8 in an intermediate body is what defines a muscle car.

My brother has a '66 goat, he has a tripower setup for it that he isn't running currently. Mine is a 69 428/quadrajet. 66 has always been one of my favorites. I'll take mine in Nightwatch blue please.

.. and maybe it was the lack of safety and stopping power you speak of that made them muscle cars.

how to summarize the current crop of fast cars is tricky. personally I reserve the term muscle car for the early ones. you know, the ones that smell like fuel all the time and vibrate the ground. Now that's a muscle car

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Old 12-09-2012, 10:20 PM
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It is a sports car - by definition with plenty of muscle!
Old 12-10-2012, 12:10 AM
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Sports Car = four wheel independent suspension.

and..... my old 302 Camaro was every bit the muscle car, there was the Rat and the Mouse. Muscle car has nothing to do with a Big Block, I was there I remember. lol
Old 12-10-2012, 12:19 AM
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Sports Cars = 2 seaters
Muscle Cars= Mid Size, large engines
Pony Cars= Mustang, Camaro, Challenger
Old 12-10-2012, 12:40 AM
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It's not a "muscle car" by strict definition so I voted for sports car.
Old 12-10-2012, 09:57 AM
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Hot Rod!
Old 12-10-2012, 10:12 AM
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Sports cars have 2 seats. Muscle cars have a back seat. Simple as that.
Old 12-10-2012, 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by sdk
Corvette: sports car
Camaro: muscle car
Old 12-10-2012, 10:22 AM
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Old 12-10-2012, 10:56 AM
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sports car , but if you consider newer camaro's, mustangs etc... they can turn/ stop/ and GO like sportscars
Old 12-10-2012, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by 5W30
Let's not forget the 389, the one that started it. Then the 400, and unfortunately the 421 never made it into a muscle car, not from the factory anyway, nor the 428. 455 was a brute though, all mentioned being pontiac varieties, of course. None of which big blocks.
I dont get what you mean by that. Are you saying that none of those engines are big blocks? Even a 326/350 Pontiac engines are big blocks. Same with the 350 Olds engines like what came in the 1970 W31. And you could get a 455 Buick, Olds or Pontiac. Big block has nothing to do with the cubic inches (though it seems to have a link in most instances) as you can have small blocks with the same or larger cubic inches.

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chevy 396 4 bolt is worth mention, likely one of the best big blocks ever.
Meh, sort of and the same with the 402. 427s and 454s made more power though.

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And Im not trying to pick at you but 442 is not an engine.
Correct, it stands for something. However, you could get an automatic 442 which pretty much shoots that 'meaning' in the foot, right?

Originally Posted by ls1121
Sports Car = four wheel independent suspension.
and..... my old 302 Camaro was every bit the muscle car, there was the Rat and the Mouse. Muscle car has nothing to do with a Big Block, I was there I remember. lol
So a new Camaro is a sports car by this?

Originally Posted by 08velocity
sports car , but if you consider newer camaro's, mustangs etc... they can turn/ stop/ and GO like sportscars
They sure do. Even though the Mustang has a solid rear it handles pretty darn well.
Old 12-10-2012, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by johnsub
Both!
Old 12-10-2012, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Mrc100
So let's here it from the masses. Sports or muscle car?
Should have added a "Both" selection on this poll.
Old 12-10-2012, 11:51 AM
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So a new Camaro is a sports car by this?



Yes!
Old 12-10-2012, 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Supersonic GS
Sports Cars = 2 seaters
Muscle Cars= Mid Size, large engines
Pony Cars= Mustang, Camaro, Challenger
pretty much what was used as the guidelines in the hey-day so to speak

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Old 12-10-2012, 12:51 PM
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Was the '55-'57 Thunderbird a sports car? Ford called it a "personal car", not a sports car. Why? Because it had an automatic transmission, so it wasn't a real sports car. The OP need another category in addition to sports car, muscle car, and pony car, that being "personal car."
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It's a high performance sports car.
Old 12-10-2012, 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by 08velocity
sports car , but if you consider newer camaro's, mustangs etc... they can turn/ stop/ and GO like sportscars
Yes they have improved the handling on both the Mustang or Camaro, but they cannot run on a road course with a Corvette. These are two totally different types of automobiles.


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