flange

not sure what year your vehicle is, but the first thing I would do is look at your warranty/owners manual and confirm tire wear/mileage/and prorated valuation to be sure it is correct.
As for the original question, think of it this way, for 700 bucks, plus a full cost of a new set in 8500 miles you get the goodyears. So total 2100 bucks give or take for goodyears for 17000 miles right? for 20000 miles you get michelins for 1700 bucks. Simple choice if you are keeping it longterm. if you plan to sell soon, its a different ballgame. 400 dollars saved is real money too!.....and thats at todays prices. doubtfull they will become less expensive in a few years.

boost2na

Michelin PSS. And try to look at it like you're comparing two mods, one gives you 10 whp and the other gives you 50 whp for $700 more. In this case it's traction.

Dave1998

So you really are ok with non run-flats ?

Changing a tire at night in the rain ?
Are you planning to load your car up with flashlight, tarp, jack, compressor, plug kit? somehow I doubt that.

Lets get real here. Just sayin

Dave

GARYFINN

Captain Buddha

Trojan, I can only comment on the Goodyears...and offer this advice, you can probably get a better deal on the Goodyears than what you are currently being offered (mine was $569 out the door, as in TOTAL)....go talk to your local Goodyear tire dealer, call the Goodyear consumer hotline, etc. The following is my post to a tire thread a month or so ago:

My experience: 2012 GS Centennial Edition coupe 6-speed manual came with the GY Supercar Gen 2 tires. I've got just a little over 7,300 miles and I think they are wearing too quick/too much. Took it to the local Chevy house for this and other issues. Mentioned the tire wear issue and the service writer said "you'll be lucky to get 12K miles out of 'em." The service manager was walking by and asked if it had been aligned yet (it had not), as, of course, it comes with a "Track-spec" alignment from the factory, like he said "your car lives at the track all day, right?" So, they aligned it (for free, apparently 7,500 miles is the cut-off for this). He mentioned that taking it off of the "Track-spec" alignment will double the tire life. They said they couldn't do anything for me regarding the tires, they suggested that I contact the local Goodyear shop, as that is what they would do anyway.

So, went to the local Goodyear shop, they measured the tires:
front r: 6/32
front l: 6/32
rear r: 5/32
rear l: 4/32

Goodyear dealer estimated that I would get around 12K miles total out of them (ie - just a little under 5K additional miles over now). We called the Goodyear customer service line and voiced our concerns...here is what they came back with:

Full set / 4 tires for ~18% of retail. Total price of $569, this is the out-the-door price (includes mounting, tax, etc.). Fronts are $100 each, rears are $111 each. This deal is good for 30 days.

Cliffnotes: if you have Goodyear tires, go to your local Goodyear dealer, voice your concerns and ask for help, you'll most likely be helped.

Flh Den

Now THATS a good deal..

HammerDown

I think I'd take heavily discounted GYs, and have the car re-aligned to the Pfadt street specs.

not08crmanymore

Or..you could go with FIRESTONE FIREHAWKS for around 1300 or so.

Bedouin

Don't the Michelin PSS's also have a 300 treadwear rating? From what I've read they should last twice as long as the GY's...I'm in the same boat, & my gen1 F1's are even worse than the gen2's, & halfway done at 5k miles.

If I were offered a price of $570 for a new set of GY F1 gen2's...I think I'd have to go GY.

redzone

Why would you want to put the same crappy tires back on your car? I mean,if you are at a restaurant and the food is terrible,would you want a certificate for your next meal there at 1/2 price or would you just not eat there anymore?

Michelins all the way.

Bedouin

I hear ya....I'll likely still go Mich PSS non-run flat for $1,600, mainly b/c their reviews have been so good.

Larry/car

My F1 tires have 11,000 miles and I expect another 9,000, at least. I have the original factory alignment with no abnormal wear patterns.

phileaglesfan

Lets let people decide what they want to do. Personally I don't want some mechanic in the middle of no where trying to replace a run flat with his equipment experience. Plug kit, slime and compressor cost about $70 which is still $400+ cheaper than Michelin runflats. Who changes tires these days? Just slime it up and go. If either tire blows out which is rare, you are waiting for days for a replacement anyway.

OP,
Dump the GY runcraps and go with Michelin Pilot Super Sports. The PSS are so much better in EVERY category. They don't even compare. 12lbs less of unsprung weight DOES make a big difference. Mine have 2k miles and still have almost 9/32s of tread left which is more than you start with the Goodyears to begin with.

Captain Buddha

For your consumption purposes only...here is why I really like runflats:

Wife's previous vehicle ('08 Pontiac G8 GT) came with the pump/fix-o-flat repair kit versus a spare tire (you know, weights savings....)....all was fine and well until she got a flat late at night while coming back from her parents, she was stranded in East Texas on the interstate, she contacted OnStar had wrecker come out to deal with it....he got tire to inflate, a little bit but it still kept leaking air, he followed her to the nearest town with a decent hotel and made sure she was safe and sound, meanwhile, I'm heading out there with a pump, etc....get the tire aired up the next morning...I barely am able to drive to the nearest tire dealer (tire is losing air, getting squirrelly)....Discount gets a tire in a few hours and away we go.

At least with a run flat it would've been safer/less hassle - ie - she could've kept on going to at least the next town without having to deal with it on her on/wait for help, etc...heck, she maybe even could've made it home on the run flat. But hey, we are all big boys and girls, right? So, you gotta do what is BEST for YOU...and I don't think we like being told by others we don't know what we SHOULD do...but suggestions are great. Imagine a "hat-tipping" icon/smiley here. Anyways, just my experience. But hey, if someone wants to buy me a set of Michelins, Firehawks, etc...well, I'll GLADLY give them a shot!

laconiajack

So you bought a car model with tires that only last 10,000 miles. Now your question is do I buy another set of the same tires, or buy a set of tires that sacrifice the safety and security of run flats, the greatest advancement in tire technology in the last decade? I think I would look for a better solution to my initial mistake rather than compound it.

trojan67

Thanks for all your input guys. I feel comfortable with non-runflats. I have a compressor and slime and I have roadside assistance if I need it.

I have decided that putting the same crappy tires back on the car is silly. I will have this same issue again in 8500-10k miles and I will have 18 months of poor performance, loud road noise and stiff ride.

I explained my point of view to the dealer and they have agreed to apply the 1k in warranty discount to a set of Michelin Super Sports which they are ordering for me.

My tires have very even wear especially on the front. The rears have a little more wear on the outside than the inside but it is not super significant. I think I will have the alignment done regardless of this using the pfdat settings. Although part of me thinks it is dangerous to mess with something that doesn't seem to be broken.

I love this forum and I appreciate all the knowledge shared. B

LSD 2005

3 Z06ZR1

The problems come when the GY's are wornout at 14k so you need a new set. When the Michelin's are going go twice as far so actually they are cheaper! Don't waste your money on a poor tire! When it hits 3/4
thread the traction goes away they ride like a brick and the noise is horrible! Thats why they offering them for $1,000.00 !

Flh Den

Glad it all worked out and I hope you keep us informed as to how you like the non Rf Michelin's as I would seriously consider these when my Goodyears need replacing.

Cherokee Nation

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