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Old 11-17-2012, 07:13 PM
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Default Corvette model rivalry...too damn many models!

The C6 Corvette has had the most models of any generation. For 2013 there are 7. The Coupe, Convertible, Grand Sport Coupe, Grand Sport Convertible, 427 Convertible, Z06 and ZR1. A price range from 50 grand to 120 grand! Remember the good old days when a Corvette was just a Corvette? All were convertibles for the first 10 years until the Coupe was introduced in '63. Are all these different models necessary? When the C7 comes out, I think through it's run, they should only have the Coupe, Convertible and the ZR1. What do you think?
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I think you are grossly simplifying the past. While models were limited to coupe or convertible there were periods of small block vs. big block vs. carb vs. fuel injection, etc. Point is the current models dictate the size of the engine. People like choices and options - I doubt there will be fewer choices over the C7 line up over time. Do you think in 2005 GM was planning a GS model line for the C6? I doubt it - I'm sure it was due to customer feedback of "why don't you make a model that looks like a Z06 without the engine and cost of a Z06". Point is - if they see a potential market to expand the interest in the line they'll make that vehicle to make $$. How many GS owners were former non-GS owners? I'll bet a bunch! Imagine how dismal overall sales of the C6 would have been without the interest the GS generated? My only complaint is that they made it too late - knowing the C7 is coming I won't bite on a GS.

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I've read some persistent rumors at zo6 and GS are done after the c6. That it will be base, "stingray" (yay!) and zr1 ... With coupe/ convert options.

Time will tell
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Originally Posted by mksz51
I think you are grossly simplifying the past. While models were limited to coupe or convertible there were periods of small block vs. big block vs. carb vs. fuel injection, etc. Point is the current models dictate the size of the engine. People like choices and options - I doubt there will be fewer choices over the C7 line up over time.
True, but those were engine options not different models. Today if you want a larger engine you have to move up to a different model. Same with the option pkgs per model today. You may want one individual option but you have to buy the whole pkg in order to get.
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Originally Posted by Supersonic GS
When the C7 comes out, I think through it's run, they should only have the Coupe, Convertible and the ZR1. What do you think?
I'm having a tough time imagining why choice is a bad thing.
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they make whatever will sell.
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I'm having a tough time imagining why choice is a bad thing.
I guess I just liked the good old days when a Corvette was a Corvette... period!
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Although I'm at a loss to explain why, I liked it better when Corvettes were differentiated from each other by options rather than models. For some reason, my brain doesn't like the trend of taking what were once RPO codes for options (e.g. Z06, ZR1, ZL1) and now using them as the names of models.
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If there are too many models, which ones should Chevrolet have avoided? I'd be hard pressed to justify an argument that Chevy would be better off if it had never produced the ZR1. Or the Z06. And the GS was certainly a marketplace winner. I suspect Chevrolet will offer whatever models and features they think will maximize revenue.
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Originally Posted by mpuzach
Although I'm at a loss to explain why, I liked it better when Corvettes were differentiated from each other by options rather than models. For some reason, my brain doesn't like the trend of taking what were once RPO codes for options (e.g. Z06, ZR1, ZL1) and now using them as the names of models.
My thoughts exactly!
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I sat in a $126,000.00 ZR1 today at the auto show in Charlotte, the only model Vette they had on display. I had two thoughts: (1) It didn't look any better inside, outside, or under the hood than my '09 Coupe with about $8,850.00 dollars worth of upgrades, meaning it cost me one-half as much, and (2) it was a shame they didn't have a coupe with sports buckets, two-tone seats and a premium paint exterior to show the buying public just how reasonably priced a super-attractive and capable Vette can be. Frankly at $126,000.00 their were a lot more exotic, and well appointed (especially interior-wise) sports cars and touring coupes and sedans at the show. The marketing people at GM need to wise-up, the buying public is getting too sophisticated for them to pull-off their less real value for a lot more dollars models, especially if they retain a cheap-*** intrerior that every other auto manufacturer puts to shame.
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I preferred the a la carte days before 'packages' too, but they're gone forever I think.
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Originally Posted by mpuzach
Although I'm at a loss to explain why, I liked it better when Corvettes were differentiated from each other by options rather than models. For some reason, my brain doesn't like the trend of taking what were once RPO codes for options (e.g. Z06, ZR1, ZL1) and now using them as the names of models.
Mike, if that were the case, we couldn't have nearly as many threads on the forum arguing about options, as we have about models.....
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Originally Posted by Supersonic GS
I guess I just liked the good old days when a Corvette was a Corvette... period!
In 1963 there was a Z06 and a Grand Sport. Go figure!
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At least they aren't Mustangs -- 11 different models of those. Or Porsches -- 12 models of those babies.
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Geez, I think they oughta have MORE models. I want to see an AWD model/option...maybe even a 'flying brake' style like the Ferrari FF.
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Originally Posted by su8pack1
they make whatever will sell.
They did "whatever" they thought would sell; but their marketing decisions of late have been marginal at best. The ZR1 didn't increased overall sales, and the G/S "styling option" only took sales away from the Z06, without increasing overall sales. Better they would have introduced a higher value base model rather than lower value "new" models, by simply upgrading the "base" models by standardizing on the F55 Magnetic Adjustible Suspension and the NPP performance exhaust "options", two remarkable achievements, along with switching from Goodyear to Michelin as their tire supplier. This would have more than equaled the the well received LS3 upgrade.

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Originally Posted by rcallen484
In 1963 there was a Z06 and a Grand Sport. Go figure!
Yes the 1963 had the option code Z06 available (Special Performance Equipment)
The Grand Sports...only 5 were specially built for racing. Million$+ cars today.
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Originally Posted by Supersonic GS
I guess I just liked the good old days when a Corvette was a Corvette... period!
So which current Corvette isn't a Corvette?

Choice isn't a bad thing.
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Originally Posted by laconiajack
G/S "styling option" only took sales away from the Z06, without increasing overall sales.
Wow, you sure have your finger on the pulse of the marketplace. It's a wonder Lieutenant Dan hasn't tapped you for EVP of Marketing.


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