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Old 10-09-2012, 09:41 PM
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My 06 was making the clunking noise, having already changed the rear differential oil thought I would have the rear axle nuts looked at. I took it to Tom Wong in Vancouver Washington, sure enough they were both very loose. Tightened the nuts, and no more clunck.
Old 10-09-2012, 10:11 PM
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If the nuts were not replaced with the new part numbers units they may work loose again. I would just replace the nuts and be done with it. I think they are about $4.00each or so. do a search here using the search function for the DYI thread.
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I thought they were one time use nuts? The dealer just re-tightened them?!

I had the clunk & replaced my passenger side axle nut & no more clunk.
Old 10-09-2012, 11:01 PM
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There's a bulletin about how to fix this:
New nuts (different part number)
Install w/Loctite 272
Torque to specified value
Let car sit for 24 hrs

Old 10-09-2012, 11:25 PM
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My 2011 Grand Sport was doing it too (at 9000 miles) so I took it to the local dealer. They tightened the nuts to 160 ft/lbs. I asked about the service bulletin but I guess it does not apply to my year.

They are starting to do it again (a little bit) so I am thinking about going back in and having them carry out the service bulletin so it is captured in the warranty history. Any thoughts on the approach? I wold rather just get the nuts and do it myself. It would be faster and I would not have to hand my car over to the dealer. I just don't trust them.

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Old 10-10-2012, 08:31 AM
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I understand your reluctance to use the dealer, but if they do the job once then they own it. Any problems during the warranty period are their problems. If you do the job, then it's your baby. Not to say that dealers always get it right...
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Thank you cmonkey713. I will order the new axle nuts and replace. Thanks everyone for the advise.
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Originally Posted by Never-Enough
I thought they were one time use nuts?...
Yup.

Strictly speaking, everything I've read says the axle nuts are one-time use.

That said, when I discovered my axle nuts were loose, I did NOT replace 'em.

And I did NOT torque to spec (160 lbs?)... just tightened 'em by hand & snugged a bit with a socket.

Since the only downside to loose axle nuts seems to be noise, I didn't see an urgency to replace 'em... just checked annually to see that they weren't falling off.

Anyway, that's what I did with my gently-driven stock 09 coupe. No problems.

From another thread:
Originally Posted by talon90

...If you don't find them to be obviously loose, I wouldn't necessarily do anything. Don't attempt to torque them up, that is certain. Having the nuts loose is not a particularly dangerous situation unless you have a lot of horse power. The axle isn't going to fall off or out of the car. Having the nuts loose can contribute to some rear end noise but that is for the most part the extent of the risk. The hub is still attached to the control arm. Over torquing is more dangerous than too loose as you can damage the spindle...
Originally Posted by talon90

...The spindle nuts are not intended to be re-torqued because they have a concave surface on the bottom that flattens at torque to mate intimately with the face. This is intended to really be a one shot deal.

...additional attempts at torquing the nut can actually start to pull the spindle forward and all sorts of interesting things can begin to happen at greater power levels.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...ng-danger.html

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Originally Posted by Gearhead Jim
There's a bulletin about how to fix this:
New nuts (different part number)
Install w/Loctite 272
Torque to specified value
Let car sit for 24 hrs



I had the rear axle nuts replaced on my '06 coupe last month for the same reason, they were working loose, loctite appplied and the new axle nuts were torqued to 160 ft lbs per TSB. All is well...

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Originally Posted by dmarshall
Thank you cmonkey713. I will order the new axle nuts and replace. Thanks everyone for the advise.
Just one thing if you go the DYI route.
You'll need a gawd-awful large metric socke3t, 31-33MM, can't recall precise size anymore. I do know they ain't cheap, considering it'll be used for one thing.

FYI: Dealer replaced nuts on my '08 Z06 using new nuts & loctite per TSB. Been 7 or so thousand miles since, sounds like one or both may be loose, again. Back to the dealer.
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Any pics of these nuts?
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Originally Posted by Don-Vette
Any pics of these nuts?
They are the large (>30mm) nuts that you see when you pull the wheels (or the center caps) from the rear, and thread onto the rear axle spindle that you see sticking out.
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Originally Posted by Landru
Just one thing if you go the DYI route.
You'll need a gawd-awful large metric socke3t, 31-33MM, can't recall precise size anymore. I do know they ain't cheap, considering it'll be used for one thing.

FYI: Dealer replaced nuts on my '08 Z06 using new nuts & loctite per TSB. Been 7 or so thousand miles since, sounds like one or both may be loose, again. Back to the dealer.
I jump at any opportunity to buy a new tool! Chances are he can borrow one from someone stupid enough to have bought one like me!
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Originally Posted by Landru
Just one thing if you go the DYI route.
You'll need a gawd-awful large metric socke3t, 31-33MM, can't recall precise size anymore. I do know they ain't cheap, considering it'll be used for one thing.

FYI: Dealer replaced nuts on my '08 Z06 using new nuts & loctite per TSB. Been 7 or so thousand miles since, sounds like one or both may be loose, again. Back to the dealer.
33mm socket. Cost me a whopping $15 at Advance Auto. Now I have it if I need to mess w/these nuts again. You can NEVER have enough tools.
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Anyone have a part number for the axle nuts? I'm getting ready to change out brake pads so I figure while I'm there I'll check the nuts and if they're loose, I'll replace them with new ones.
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Originally Posted by Don-Vette
Any pics of these nuts?
I just happened to have these...





A 33mm socket worked great for me. Got mine under $20 at O'Reillys. They let me test-fit the socket before I bought it. That is, IIRC some folks get a better fit with 32mm.

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Old 10-10-2012, 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Tally Ho
Anyone have a part number for the axle nuts? I'm getting ready to change out brake pads so I figure while I'm there I'll check the nuts and if they're loose, I'll replace them with new ones.
Axle nut p/n: 10257766, Loctite 272 p/n: 89021297
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Our 2006 needed a 33mm deep socket, the 2009 needs a 34mm.


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