Michelin RF tire look
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Michelin RF tire look
I have read several post from Michelin tire owners that say they don't like the way they look....
What don't you like about the way they look and are they PS or AS?
I am only interested in finding out about the RFs.
Lisa
What don't you like about the way they look and are they PS or AS?
I am only interested in finding out about the RFs.
Lisa
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I have them and like the way they ride and handle.
IMO, they look fine on the car, but that's me
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I just replaced my FRONT tires with the AS/RF's ...There is a TREMENDOUS difference in road noise. As far as the way they look is concerned ....they are tires....I never gave it much thought on the way they look as long as they performed they way they were supposed to. I still have the OEM GY's on the back with plenty of thread BUT I am going to change them out with the AS/RF's because of the NOISE.
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Here's a few pics of them side by side with the Goodyear's another forum member was kind enough to post once.
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i put a set on my C5. Not only did i not like they way they looked, but more imporntantly, i hated the way the felt. The car mysteriously handled differently after the tire change. I never really got used to it up until i traded for the C6 (5 months later)
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I had the A/S ZPs on my 08 and didn't care for the way they looked or felt also. I heard Goodyears are more square looking from the back, a little wider. From my experience with the 08 you will gain about .05g of grip during the winter but lose .10 grip or more in the summer. This is comparing the A/S ZP to non supercar OEM tires on the 08. With my 11 GS Vert those figures are double but the winter drop off is closer than most would think. (Gen 1 supercars on the GS Vert)
One thing I noticed with the A/S ZP is that you'll lose about 2 mpg. The only reason why I noticed that is because I had to fill up early compared to my friends on a trip with similar drivetrains, just different tires. We checked it going down the highway and sure enough I was reading about 2 mpg less.
One thing I noticed with the A/S ZP is that you'll lose about 2 mpg. The only reason why I noticed that is because I had to fill up early compared to my friends on a trip with similar drivetrains, just different tires. We checked it going down the highway and sure enough I was reading about 2 mpg less.
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The OEM Goodyears definitely "look" wider. They are square-shouldered, where the Michelins are rounded at the tire shoulders.
The Mich is a much better tire, for traction, noise and longevity. So if you can live with the slightly narrower look, it's a much better tire.
The Mich is a much better tire, for traction, noise and longevity. So if you can live with the slightly narrower look, it's a much better tire.
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I had the A/S ZPs on my 08 and didn't care for the way they looked or felt also. I heard Goodyears are more square looking from the back, a little wider. From my experience with the 08 you will gain about .05g of grip during the winter but lose .10 grip or more in the summer. This is comparing the A/S ZP to non supercar OEM tires on the 08. With my 11 GS Vert those figures are double but the winter drop off is closer than most would think. (Gen 1 supercars on the GS Vert)
One thing I noticed with the A/S ZP is that you'll lose about 2 mpg. The only reason why I noticed that is because I had to fill up early compared to my friends on a trip with similar drivetrains, just different tires. We checked it going down the highway and sure enough I was reading about 2 mpg less.
One thing I noticed with the A/S ZP is that you'll lose about 2 mpg. The only reason why I noticed that is because I had to fill up early compared to my friends on a trip with similar drivetrains, just different tires. We checked it going down the highway and sure enough I was reading about 2 mpg less.
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Are these AS or PS?
AS or PS?
I keep getting info but not to many people say if they are talking about the PS or AS.
Lisa
Here's a few pics of them side by side with the Goodyear's another forum member was kind enough to post once.
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I keep getting info but not to many people say if they are talking about the PS or AS.
Lisa
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The tires in the pictures are the Michelin A/S ZP (runflats).
We have two sets of wheels/tires/sensors, so I can swap out every Fall/Spring.
One set Michelin PS2 ZP, other set Michelin A/S ZP.
I don't much care how they look, can't see them while driving. But for seeing things, the A/S are better in cold/winter weather, because the road ahead of me is visible through my windshield instead of out the side windows or even the back window.
More seriously, comparing the two Michelins:
the A/S is slightly softer, slightly louder, less grip in warm wx butt more grip in cold and much more in ice/snow. Costs a little less and should last considerably longer.
The Goodyears (we've had both Supercar and base tires) were ok eight years ago, but other brands have left them in the dust.
We have two sets of wheels/tires/sensors, so I can swap out every Fall/Spring.
One set Michelin PS2 ZP, other set Michelin A/S ZP.
I don't much care how they look, can't see them while driving. But for seeing things, the A/S are better in cold/winter weather, because the road ahead of me is visible through my windshield instead of out the side windows or even the back window.
More seriously, comparing the two Michelins:
the A/S is slightly softer, slightly louder, less grip in warm wx butt more grip in cold and much more in ice/snow. Costs a little less and should last considerably longer.
The Goodyears (we've had both Supercar and base tires) were ok eight years ago, but other brands have left them in the dust.
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Thanks Jim. I live in La. We get cold in the winter but we don't get snow or ice(if that miracle occurs red will stay in the garage) so I am just trying to make the right decision between the AS and the PS for where I live. I am right in the middle of Louisiana.
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Thanks Jim. I live in La. We get cold in the winter but we don't get snow or ice(if that miracle occurs red will stay in the garage) so I am just trying to make the right decision between the AS and the PS for where I live. I am right in the middle of Louisiana.
Lisa
Lisa
Also remember there used to be a club in Alex called the "cotton gin" that we would hang out at, but that was 20 years ago.
Sorry for being off topic, when it comes time to get new tires for me im considering Firestone RF
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As for the Michelins, it depends on how you drive the car and how you care about the cost. The combination of longer life and lower cost, gives the A/S a noticable improvement in cost per mile. A rough guide would be to check the prices on Tire Rack and expect 25k miles for the PS2, 35k miles for the A/S.
But the reduced cost is not a good deal if you end up in the ditch from needing more cornering power than the tires can deliver, or you just don't enjoy the car as much.
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That is so funny that you mentioned the Cotton Gin. My husband use to own that bar we weren't married then (which is probably good because of the stories he has told me) but I have one of the t shirts framed and on the wall. Before he had that bar he had one called the Daiquiri Hut.
Lisa
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As z edge mentioned, the Firestome runflats are also a viable choice. The official policy is that they should never be repaired (patched) after a puncture, but I think that's lawyer talk and some shops will indeed patch them. Road hazard insurance is fairly cheap, also.
As for the Michelins, it depends on how you drive the car and how you care about the cost. The combination of longer life and lower cost, gives the A/S a noticable improvement in cost per mile. A rough guide would be to check the prices on Tire Rack and expect 25k miles for the PS2, 35k miles for the A/S.
But the reduced cost is not a good deal if you end up in the ditch from needing more cornering power than the tires can deliver, or you just don't enjoy the car as much.
As for the Michelins, it depends on how you drive the car and how you care about the cost. The combination of longer life and lower cost, gives the A/S a noticable improvement in cost per mile. A rough guide would be to check the prices on Tire Rack and expect 25k miles for the PS2, 35k miles for the A/S.
But the reduced cost is not a good deal if you end up in the ditch from needing more cornering power than the tires can deliver, or you just don't enjoy the car as much.
I want have tires that let me enjoy my car but not ending up in that ditch you talk about.... I guess that us why I have asked so much for all of you. This is my first vette and most of you know way more about them and the tires then I do.
I respect you guys and what you all think. I am willing to pay what ever I need to in making the right discussion on tires. I have put money back from the day I got it for new tires
Lisa
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The firestone firehawk wide oval rft is a great tire at a good price, I am on my 3rd set and my girl friend is on her 2nd set. I DD my Vette and love to take corners.
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They are a bit more rounded on the shoulder and the rain grooves give them a different look. But, on the car, there is not much to see unless you are following.
This was one of my rear's before the mount.
And a stack of them....
They have been great on my car. Very quiet and good handling.
This was one of my rear's before the mount.
And a stack of them....
They have been great on my car. Very quiet and good handling.