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Looking for recommendations in touching up very small stone chips. Thinking about using a very small artist brush and then claying to smooth. Any suggestion would be appreciated. Color is Atomic Orange.
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Here is my answer to them.. I covered them up...LOL 99.00 LOL

But curious to see what others have done..

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I use Langka system on my car and have great results.
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Good results with Dr.colorchip.
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I use Langka system on my car and have great results.
this stuff looks good. may have to get some...

there are a ton of videos on this

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Here is the process I’ve learned. The repair of a scratch and a chip are basically the same. The only problem with a scratch is that it takes more time to be able to blend in the new paint.

Realize that paint chip repair is a learned skill and should be practiced on an area of the car that is not that visible. The hood and nose are two areas that should be tackled last. Test all cleaners or solvents on the paint prior to usage. I like to use the seam underneath the rocker panels. Apply a little cleaner or solvent to a cloth and rub the seam. If you do not get any color on the rag, then the cleaner/solvent should be safe for the paint. If you do get color on the rag, then you may wish to consider another solvent.

PREPARATION:

Twenty-four hours before you want to start, use some rubber cement to attach small sandpaper circles onto the eraser heads of several new pencils. The eraser must be unused and flat on top. Use a regular paper hole punch to punch out your sanding “dots” from sheets of sand-paper. Make up two sets of “pencil sanders”, one set using 600-grit sand paper (which will be used for paint repairs) and another set using 1200-grit sand paper (which will be used for finish repairs). Make sure you mark your pencils in some way so that you’ll be able to tell the two sets apart.

Wash and dry the car thoroughly. One of the greatest hindrances and easiest ways to ruin any paint job, including a chip repair, is to leave any kind of wax or oil residue behind. I like to use Dawn dish-washing liquid as it acts as an excellent wax remover and degreaser when washing and prepping the paint surface.

Paint chips come in two flavors. The worst case has exposed the bare metal, while the less severe has left the original primer intact. The only difference in the repair method is that with a bare metal surface you want to start with a primer.

PRIMING:

If there is any exposed metal, clean off with a regular pencil eraser (not one of your pencil sanders). Use a toothpick to gently probe the area and make sure that the edges of the chip are secure and not waiting to fall off and destroy your work.

Take one of your 600-grit pencil sanders, dip into clean water and put a few drops of water on the chip area. *SLIGHTLY* rough up the chip and a small portion of the surrounding paint. Lightly turning the pencil will rough up an area the diameter of the eraser and this should be more than enough. Keep the roughed up area as small as possible. The object is to give the new paint approximately 1 mm of old paint to "grab" around the perimeter of the chip and not dig scratches.

Move onto the next chip and repeat the above. Depending upon the amount of time available, you may wish to tackle 10-20 chips at one time.

When finished sanding all your chips you are tackling at this time apply a small amount of Alcohol, Prepsol, or Enamel Reducer to a rag and wipe each chip and surrounding area to remove any sanding dust and grease/oils. Use additional solvent and a new, clean area of your rag for each chip. Allow the repair areas to dry; most solvents are highly volatile and will evaporate quickly with no residue.

If the original primer is intact, and "pencil sanding" does not disturb the primer, then skip the next step and go directly to painting.

Pour or spray a small amount of primer into a clean plastic cup. Dip the point of a wooden toothpick into the primer to get a thin coating on the first 1-2 mm of the toothpick. If there is a blob on the end, gently scrape it back into the bottle. Place the tip of the toothpick against the center of the chip and allow capillary action to literally flow a *THIN* coat of the primer into the depression of the chip. Move onto the next prepared chip. If you have finished priming all your prepared chips before two hours are up, stop, take a break, and go have a beer. The key is to allow the first coat of primer to dry at least two hours. Dispose of your cup and start with a fresh cup and toothpick. Apply another thin coat of primer to each repair that needs primer. Priming is completed when no metal is visible and the level of the primer is *BELOW* the level of the surrounding paint. This is important!

PAINTING:

Take a new pencil sander and dip into water and add a few drops of water to the repair area and gently sand the area to rough up the chip and a small portion of the surrounding paint. Lightly turning the pencil will rough up an area the diameter of the eraser and this should be more than enough. Apply a small amount of Alcohol, Prepsol, or Enamel Reducer to a rag and wipe the chip and surrounding area to remove any sanding dust and grease/oils. Allow to dry. Repeat for all the chips that are on today's list of victims.

If you are using a touchup, shake the bottle thoroughly. If you are using color-matched paint, mix thoroughly and pour a small amount into a clean plastic cup.

Dip the point of a new toothpick into the paint to get a thin coating on the first 1-2 mm of the toothpick. If there is a blob on the end, gently scrape it back into the bottle. Place the tip of the toothpick against the center of the chip and allow capillary action to literally flow the paint into the depression of the chip. Repeat for each chip. Do not re-dip the toothpick. Use only the amount that will flow from one dip. The key is not to use too much paint. Several thin layers are far better than fewer thick layers. Temptation to add more paint with each application will be almost overwhelming. Fight it!

Plan to repeat the toothpick painting step 8-12 times until the depression of each chip is filled with paint and bulges slightly upward, covering the roughed-up area with a thin coating of paint. The first 2-3 coats may not completely hide the primer. This is fine because you have many more coats to go. Fight that urge!

Allow the paint to dry for at least a week. You want as much time as possible to pass to allow the paint to fully cure and harden. The harder the paint, the less likely you’ll sand through it too quickly when it comes time to finish the repair.

FINISHING:

At this point, the touchup paint has been applied to the surface and allowed to dry for at least a week and resembles a minute mound (__∩__) (this is exaggerated) on the flat plane of the existing paint. The object is to remove the mound and make the surface of the paint one continuous flat plane.

Use a 1200-grit sanding pencil to *SLOWLY* take down the mound of each paint repair until it is level with the paint. Proceed slowly and check your progress often. Do not press too hard while sanding. Let the pencil do the work. Your goal is to flatten the mound of new paint until it is level with the surface of the original paint.

Once your paint repairs have been leveled out, clean each chip repair using Alcohol, Prepsol, or Enamel Reducer to remove any sanding dust and grease/oils.

The hard part is done! Use some rubbing compound to remove the fine surface scratches left behind by the 1200-grit sanding pencils. Follow that with some polishing compound and then your favorite wax. Step back, have a beer, and admire the work you’ve done!

A question that often comes up regards clear coating and whether or not it should be used as a final coat on clear-coat paint. There are two view points to this question.

The purist will say yes, the paint has a clear coat and thus, the repair should also. The process is the same as previously described, except the clear coat is substituted for the last 2-3 coats or paint.

The practical world says no. The touchup paint is different from the original paint and is formulated only as a touch-up paint. Once it is applied, it should match well enough to be all but invisible. I have found this to be the case with the numerous repairs on the many cars/colors, I have completed.

If in doubt, try one chip in an area that is not that visible and choose a process (clear coat or paint only) that works best.

I hope this info helps out. It may sound scary, but once you’ve made a few repairs you’ll find there’s nothing to it.
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Originally Posted by ptroxx
Here is my answer to them.. I covered them up...LOL 99.00 LOL

But curious to see what others have done..


have the same mask, easy on, easy off. Is that your red C3? It's nice
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Originally Posted by HEB
Where's the best place to get GM touch up paint??
your gm dealer ...
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have the same mask, easy on, easy off. Is that your red C3? It's nice
Yeah I like the mask, got it from corvettemods... NEal is awesome..

And yes thats my C3 and thank you ,,,
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Those Genocolor Pens that were on special here really worked great on my 1978. They are like a ball point pen and don't blob up and make a mess. You just fill in the jole a little at a time. Check it out. I think they are still on sale on here.........P.S. Go up to search and typein the words- "touch up paint pens". It will say "Free OEM touch up paint pens".

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Where's the best place to get GM touch up paint??
Really?
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Those Genocolor Pens that were on special here really worked great on my 1978.

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My car is black, I had only a few very small stone chips that I made go away with touch from a black sharpie!
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Originally Posted by ptroxx
your gm dealer ...

Thanks, I usually get my GM touch up paint at a dealer,I have crystal red also on my 09,just purchased and have a few small chips on the lower rocker panels, the nose is good, need to get a bra of some sort.
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I used Dr. Colorchip on my DD that had serious road rash from the previous owner. It helped a lot. Is it show perfect, nope, but it looks a ton better than it did and the paint fill matched factory color perfectly.
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Originally Posted by HD_Rider
Here is the process I’ve learned. The repair of a scratch and a chip are basically the same. The only problem with a scratch is that it takes more time to be able to blend in the new paint.

Realize that paint chip repair is a learned skill and should be practiced on an area of the car that is not that visible. The hood and nose are two areas that should be tackled last. Test all cleaners or solvents on the paint prior to usage. I like to use the seam underneath the rocker panels. Apply a little cleaner or solvent to a cloth and rub the seam. If you do not get any color on the rag, then the cleaner/solvent should be safe for the paint. If you do get color on the rag, then you may wish to consider another solvent.

PREPARATION:

Twenty-four hours before you want to start, use some rubber cement to attach small sandpaper circles onto the eraser heads of several new pencils. The eraser must be unused and flat on top. Use a regular paper hole punch to punch out your sanding “dots” from sheets of sand-paper. Make up two sets of “pencil sanders”, one set using 600-grit sand paper (which will be used for paint repairs) and another set using 1200-grit sand paper (which will be used for finish repairs). Make sure you mark your pencils in some way so that you’ll be able to tell the two sets apart.

Wash and dry the car thoroughly. One of the greatest hindrances and easiest ways to ruin any paint job, including a chip repair, is to leave any kind of wax or oil residue behind. I like to use Dawn dish-washing liquid as it acts as an excellent wax remover and degreaser when washing and prepping the paint surface.

Paint chips come in two flavors. The worst case has exposed the bare metal, while the less severe has left the original primer intact. The only difference in the repair method is that with a bare metal surface you want to start with a primer.

PRIMING:

If there is any exposed metal, clean off with a regular pencil eraser (not one of your pencil sanders). Use a toothpick to gently probe the area and make sure that the edges of the chip are secure and not waiting to fall off and destroy your work.

Take one of your 600-grit pencil sanders, dip into clean water and put a few drops of water on the chip area. *SLIGHTLY* rough up the chip and a small portion of the surrounding paint. Lightly turning the pencil will rough up an area the diameter of the eraser and this should be more than enough. Keep the roughed up area as small as possible. The object is to give the new paint approximately 1 mm of old paint to "grab" around the perimeter of the chip and not dig scratches.

Move onto the next chip and repeat the above. Depending upon the amount of time available, you may wish to tackle 10-20 chips at one time.

When finished sanding all your chips you are tackling at this time apply a small amount of Alcohol, Prepsol, or Enamel Reducer to a rag and wipe each chip and surrounding area to remove any sanding dust and grease/oils. Use additional solvent and a new, clean area of your rag for each chip. Allow the repair areas to dry; most solvents are highly volatile and will evaporate quickly with no residue.

If the original primer is intact, and "pencil sanding" does not disturb the primer, then skip the next step and go directly to painting.

Pour or spray a small amount of primer into a clean plastic cup. Dip the point of a wooden toothpick into the primer to get a thin coating on the first 1-2 mm of the toothpick. If there is a blob on the end, gently scrape it back into the bottle. Place the tip of the toothpick against the center of the chip and allow capillary action to literally flow a *THIN* coat of the primer into the depression of the chip. Move onto the next prepared chip. If you have finished priming all your prepared chips before two hours are up, stop, take a break, and go have a beer. The key is to allow the first coat of primer to dry at least two hours. Dispose of your cup and start with a fresh cup and toothpick. Apply another thin coat of primer to each repair that needs primer. Priming is completed when no metal is visible and the level of the primer is *BELOW* the level of the surrounding paint. This is important!

PAINTING:

Take a new pencil sander and dip into water and add a few drops of water to the repair area and gently sand the area to rough up the chip and a small portion of the surrounding paint. Lightly turning the pencil will rough up an area the diameter of the eraser and this should be more than enough. Apply a small amount of Alcohol, Prepsol, or Enamel Reducer to a rag and wipe the chip and surrounding area to remove any sanding dust and grease/oils. Allow to dry. Repeat for all the chips that are on today's list of victims.

If you are using a touchup, shake the bottle thoroughly. If you are using color-matched paint, mix thoroughly and pour a small amount into a clean plastic cup.

Dip the point of a new toothpick into the paint to get a thin coating on the first 1-2 mm of the toothpick. If there is a blob on the end, gently scrape it back into the bottle. Place the tip of the toothpick against the center of the chip and allow capillary action to literally flow the paint into the depression of the chip. Repeat for each chip. Do not re-dip the toothpick. Use only the amount that will flow from one dip. The key is not to use too much paint. Several thin layers are far better than fewer thick layers. Temptation to add more paint with each application will be almost overwhelming. Fight it!

Plan to repeat the toothpick painting step 8-12 times until the depression of each chip is filled with paint and bulges slightly upward, covering the roughed-up area with a thin coating of paint. The first 2-3 coats may not completely hide the primer. This is fine because you have many more coats to go. Fight that urge!

Allow the paint to dry for at least a week. You want as much time as possible to pass to allow the paint to fully cure and harden. The harder the paint, the less likely you’ll sand through it too quickly when it comes time to finish the repair.

FINISHING:

At this point, the touchup paint has been applied to the surface and allowed to dry for at least a week and resembles a minute mound (__∩__) (this is exaggerated) on the flat plane of the existing paint. The object is to remove the mound and make the surface of the paint one continuous flat plane.

Use a 1200-grit sanding pencil to *SLOWLY* take down the mound of each paint repair until it is level with the paint. Proceed slowly and check your progress often. Do not press too hard while sanding. Let the pencil do the work. Your goal is to flatten the mound of new paint until it is level with the surface of the original paint.

Once your paint repairs have been leveled out, clean each chip repair using Alcohol, Prepsol, or Enamel Reducer to remove any sanding dust and grease/oils.

The hard part is done! Use some rubbing compound to remove the fine surface scratches left behind by the 1200-grit sanding pencils. Follow that with some polishing compound and then your favorite wax. Step back, have a beer, and admire the work you’ve done!

A question that often comes up regards clear coating and whether or not it should be used as a final coat on clear-coat paint. There are two view points to this question.

The purist will say yes, the paint has a clear coat and thus, the repair should also. The process is the same as previously described, except the clear coat is substituted for the last 2-3 coats or paint.

The practical world says no. The touchup paint is different from the original paint and is formulated only as a touch-up paint. Once it is applied, it should match well enough to be all but invisible. I have found this to be the case with the numerous repairs on the many cars/colors, I have completed.

If in doubt, try one chip in an area that is not that visible and choose a process (clear coat or paint only) that works best.

I hope this info helps out. It may sound scary, but once you’ve made a few repairs you’ll find there’s nothing to it.


The best overview I have ever read on touch up procedure. I am saving this to my most helpful section, Thank you.
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nice detailed repair
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I use the Dr ColorChip product. Excellent color match for my Cyber Gray Metallic. I will be touching up a few chips this afternoon that I got on my rear fender brake scoops, that I got on a recent 3400 mile cruise.


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