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Old 10-04-2012, 08:09 AM
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Default GS vs Z06 vs ZR1 [video]

A German car magazine took a Corvette ZR1, Z06 and Grand Sport around the Hockenheim (the short version) track. You get to see the laps and the lap times. The ZR1 is just barely faster than a 911 GT2 RS and the Z06 is very fast as well. The video ends with a 0-331-0 kph test using the ZR1.



Here's a still from the video with the lap times:


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Old 10-04-2012, 08:37 AM
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I don't know why...but I like the European mirrors and tailights.

BTW...tires played a huge factor here in giving the ZR1 and Z06 such good times. Interesting video.
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Strange that the list does not have the Viper on it! The ZO6 for the money is the car to have!
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What is even more impressive is that the ZR1 is just below 2 cars that are pretty much over the top race cars.





Amazing what you can buy off the showroom floor, but of course the ZR1/Z06s tires, PTM, and power:weight are just unmatched.

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Originally Posted by LFZ
What is even more impressive is that the ZR1 is just below 2 cars that are pretty much over the top race cars.



Amazing what you can buy off the showroom floor, but of course the ZR1/Z06s tires, PTM, and power:weight are just unmatched.


It's amazing with the newer Z06 (Z07 package) what the above you mentioned did to the car and really closed the Gap. Just proves the age old point on the track, HP is just one factor in the picture. Tires, weight, suspension set up all dominate. The ZR1 has 138 more HP than the Z06, yet look how close the are. That's no knock on the ZR1 either, I love the car .
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Originally Posted by FrankTank


It's amazing with the newer Z06 (Z07 package) what the above you mentioned did to the car and really closed the Gap. Just proves the age old point on the track, HP is just one factor in the picture. Tires, weight, suspension set up all dominate. The ZR1 has 138 more HP than the Z06, yet look how close the are. That's no knock on the ZR1 either, I love the car .
They are very close and the gap between the Z06 and GS is huge at this comparison; however, the 2 top corvettes really do showcase their track capabilities and setting the bar for whatever else out there Europe or Japan has to offer.

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Old 10-04-2012, 09:47 AM
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Yeah, but you can take the roof off the GS and go topless! Woo Hoo! I don't plan on racing against any of those cars in the list, so being a few seconds slower makes no difference to me. Any modern Corvette will still out-perform 99% of the vehicles on the road.
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The 2010 Viper ACR was only .56 behind the Apollo and beat the the RS at Nurburgring, Corvette isn't even the top dog in it's own backyard! The new '13 Viper will be by far the best bang for the buck supercar on the market when it arrives in a few months!!
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When the C7 ZR1 is released (sometime down the road), I'm guessing it will spank the Viper's butt. So they should enjoy top dog honors while they last.

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The 2010 Viper ACR was only .56 behind the Apollo and beat the the RS at Nurburgring, Corvette isn't even the top dog in it's own backyard! The new '13 Viper will be by far the best bang for the buck supercar on the market when it arrives in a few months!!
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It very well may otown but they haven't proved they can yet! The 2010 Viper ran last Sept. on OEM tires, the ZR1 ran last june on super slicks and was SEVEN seconds slower! The aero on the Viper for a road course is set up perfectly which is why it only tops out at 182, the ZR will eclipse 200 b/c it does not have near the downforce! Give the Viper its due, it is a killer car!
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I am no race car driver but it seemed to me the driver was off the track a couple of times in the turns. Is that true, or just my old eyes?
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The problem with the vipers though is there straight base line racecars. Hell the nav in them was the same as in my jeep about 4 inches wide LOL. There is no comfort or options on them. The ZR1 and Z06 have Nice nav,Tons of interior options and the vipers are all just blah and feel cheap inside to me. Not to mention the side pipes that burn your leg everytime you get out.
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I recall other road course comparison tests where the Z06 bested the ZR1. There are differences between models to be sure but all stock Corvettes are fairly track capable cars (and can be made even more capable). Considering Corvette performance, reliability, price and the wealth of modification options it's easy to see Corvette's appeal and why the Corvette can compete with the best of them. The ZR1 is still what I'd consider to be an expensive car but compared to the Gumpert Apollo the ZR1 can be had for 'beer money.' I've had some firsthand exposure to the Gumpert Apollo....the fact that a stock Corvette costing a fraction of its cost can be within a second or so of the Apollo's lap time is amazing.
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Originally Posted by Wayne O
I recall other road course comparison tests where the Z06 bested the ZR1. There are differences between models to be sure but all stock Corvettes are fairly track capable cars (and can be made even more capable). Considering Corvette performance, reliability, price and the wealth of modification options it's easy to see Corvette's appeal and why the Corvette can compete with the best of them. The ZR1 is still what I'd consider to be an expensive car but compared to the Gumpert Apollo the ZR1 can be had for 'beer money.' I've had some firsthand exposure to the Gumpert Apollo....the fact that a stock Corvette costing a fraction of its cost can be within a second or so of the Apollo's lap time is amazing.
I seen them do the testing on the apollo with Tanner Faust driving it and that thing is just a pure beast. Its all power and weight ratio on that one. Its a race car with a tag and headlights. LOL
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Originally Posted by Big Dan 427
It very well may otown but they haven't proved they can yet! The 2010 Viper ran last Sept. on OEM tires, the ZR1 ran last june on super slicks and was SEVEN seconds slower! The aero on the Viper for a road course is set up perfectly which is why it only tops out at 182, the ZR will eclipse 200 b/c it does not have near the downforce! Give the Viper its due, it is a killer car!
That 2010 Viper ran it on Michelin Sport Cup tires...same as the ZR1 (except the ZR1 sport cups were ZP runflat).
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I agree with you M95, the "old" Viper interior is way outdated and sparse but don't get too ahead of yourself with the Vette either (and by the way I own a new 427 60th). Even though it is better than the old Viper it also is a bit "cheap" and the electronics as seen by all the complaints on this forum aren't the greatest! I am only backing the Viper b/c I've owned them, they are truly bas *** track cars and a drivers car, anyone who has driven one will tell you the same thing! To Wayne O, I remember when a very wealthy member at a certain track backed that car into the guardrail even though the Apollo co-pilot was telling him to back it down, his ego got the best of him and his tail was wagging between his legs!! LOL
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LFZ I am not a tire expert and will take your word for it, wikipedia hints the ZR1 ran a different tire, google nurburgring times! I can't attach from work, filters!!

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Old 10-04-2012, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Big Dan 427
LFZ I am not a tire expert and will take your word for it, wikipedia hints the ZR1 ran a different tire, google nurburgring times! I can't attach from work, filters!!
Not a different tire...same tire you get from GM.
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the new viper is,for lack of a better term,childish looking.If both the new gen and previous gen where equal performance wise,I"ll take the previous.(I hope I don't feel the same with the new vette)
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Originally Posted by big dan 427
it very well may otown but they haven't proved they can yet! The 2010 viper ran last sept. On oem tires, the zr1 ran last june on super slicks and was seven seconds slower! The aero on the viper for a road course is set up perfectly which is why it only tops out at 182, the zr will eclipse 200 b/c it does not have near the downforce! Give the viper its due, it is a killer car!
absolutely incorrect info here.


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