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Old 03-10-2012, 08:05 PM
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My buddy could not find the fob under the seat. It was under power seat motor. The fob is constantly "talking" to car and the car is constantly answering. After one week, both batteries were dead. AAA was called to open door (rear key could not be found). Harness bar stopped us from crawling into back. Car battery was charged under the hood. This was the perfect storm for not keeping track of keys.
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Originally Posted by Z06 LOVER
The fob is constantly "talking" to car and the car is constantly answering.
NO! Didn't happen. Fob doesn't "talk" to the car unless you press a button on the fob, try to open the car door while you have the fob near the door, or try to push the button to open the rear hatch while the fob is near the hatch.

The only other way is if something was stuck in the fob button, causing it to be constantly depressed.
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NO! Didn't happen. Fob doesn't "talk" to the car unless you press a button on the fob, try to open the car door while you have the fob near the door, or try to push the button to open the rear hatch while the fob is near the hatch.

The only other way is if something was stuck in the fob button, causing it to be constantly depressed.
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Originally Posted by JimTN
NO! Didn't happen. Fob doesn't "talk" to the car unless you press a button on the fob, try to open the car door while you have the fob near the door, or try to push the button to open the rear hatch while the fob is near the hatch.

The only other way is if something was stuck in the fob button, causing it to be constantly depressed.
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Unless it was jammed under the seat such that one of the buttons was being held down the whole time, it did not happen the way you think. It does not matter where a fob is kept, the system does not work that way. Jim is correct.
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Unless it was jammed under the seat such that one of the buttons was being held down the whole time, it did not happen the way you think. It does not matter where a fob is kept, the system does not work that way. Jim is correct.
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How does one go an entire week and not realize a fob is MIA ?
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How does one go an entire week and not realize a fob is MIA ?
My buddy could not find the fob under the seat.
I think that means he knew it was missing, he just couldn't find it.
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Originally Posted by Z06 LOVER
... Harness bar stopped us from crawling into back....
???? Why would you want to crawl into the back?
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So a car has 2 FOB's and a KEY... if you lose them, it is like any other car... deal with it... PS "IF" you open the hatch, no need to crawl in.. just pull the remote wire to open the door, on the left side in the hatch...
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Originally Posted by JimTN
NO! Didn't happen. Fob doesn't "talk" to the car unless you press a button on the fob, try to open the car door while you have the fob near the door, or try to push the button to open the rear hatch while the fob is near the hatch.

The only other way is if something was stuck in the fob button, causing it to be constantly depressed.
I'm getting a different interpretation of what happened. With the fob in the car, wouldn't the car constantly be "waking up" trying to determine if the car should be started? I would expect that could kill the car battery in a week.

The fobs should be fine, as mentioned, they don't use up any more battery power regardless of where they're located.

Although the OP indicated "both batteries were dead", I don't think either fob battery died - the dead car battery would prevent either fob from "working" (they probably both "work", but thedead car battery prevents anything from "working").

To the OP - gotta keep the key handy, so you can get into the hatch, and open the doors. But I believe the car should always be charged or jumped from the front... Could be wrong, but I think that's the rule with the Z06.
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Originally Posted by Snake.Oiler
???? Why would you want to crawl into the back?
Probably to get to the battery, but I'm not sure that's the right course of action with the Z's anyways.
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The owners manual is your friend.

Answer, "I bought the car used and did not get one".
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The owners manual is your friend.

Answer, "I bought the car used and did not get one".
+1, and Google (and GM) is your friend:
http://www.chevrolet.com/assets/pdf/...tte_owners.pdf
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Originally Posted by WAwatchnut
I'm getting a different interpretation of what happened. With the fob in the car, wouldn't the car constantly be "waking up" trying to determine if the car should be started? I would expect that could kill the car battery in a week.

The fobs should be fine, as mentioned, they don't use up any more battery power regardless of where they're located.

Although the OP indicated "both batteries were dead", I don't think either fob battery died - the dead car battery would prevent either fob from "working" (they probably both "work", but thedead car battery prevents anything from "working").

To the OP - gotta keep the key handy, so you can get into the hatch, and open the doors. But I believe the car should always be charged or jumped from the front... Could be wrong, but I think that's the rule with the Z06.
No. The car ands FOB only try to communicate when a button is pushed. Opening a door, closing a door, trying to start the engine, etc. One of the communications is to determine if the FOB is inside or outside the car. That is done by having multiple receivers in the car. But it is only done when trying to determine if you have removed a FOB from the car before it auto locks. That is initiated by opening and closing the door. If the door isn't opening/closing (and no other buttons are be3ing pressed) then the car couldn't care less where the FOB is so it doesn't communicate to find out.

If they were constantly trying to communicate with each other then the batteries would go dead no matter where they were located. The car battery went dead in a week because abused/old batteries go dead in a week.

The rest of your comments are correct, IMHO.
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sounds like my wife....i locked her in the car and she still tried to constantly communicate with me...........

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sounds like my wife....i locked her in the car and she still tried to constantly communicate with me...........
That's what happens when a woman has a cell phone ............ Jus say'n
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sounds like my wife....i locked her in the car and she still tried to constantly communicate with me...........
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Originally Posted by FortMorganAl
No. The car ands FOB only try to communicate when a button is pushed. Opening a door, closing a door, trying to start the engine, etc. One of the communications is to determine if the FOB is inside or outside the car. That is done by having multiple receivers in the car. But it is only done when trying to determine if you have removed a FOB from the car before it auto locks. That is initiated by opening and closing the door. If the door isn't opening/closing (and no other buttons are be3ing pressed) then the car couldn't care less where the FOB is so it doesn't communicate to find out.
Right - but it sounds like the car was in use with the second fob all week. So every time the driver got out of the car, closing the door behind him, instead of staying turned off, wouldn't it see the missing fob, wake up, and stay on for a while?


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