Travelor

I have heard that the percent of alcohol on our gas is going to be upped to 15% in the near future (word of mouth info only), thank you Obama.

1st, any truth to this and is so, when will the happen?

2nd, is there a source to find which gas stations if any in central Arkansas sell alcohol free (i.e. real) gasoline?

I have gone to http://pure-gas.org/ but it is out of date apparently as I have gone to a few of the identified stations and they do not sell "real" gas.

Thanks

George

arcticblast

Interesting, George. The ethanol free stations are getting harder to find.

mcandrew67

Ethanol is a joke. The media make out it is cheaper. I understand the green side. My Jeep is Flex Fuel, so Gas or E85. E85 is cheaper but I get a lot less MPG and when I calculated, using regular gas was cheaper for me. Yes green house emissions.....I know

LDB

Various groups are lobbying to raise the maximum limit from 10 to 15%. It is unclear if or when that will happen. The only minimum percent is that in areas identified as high pollution (mostly the big cities), there is a minimum of 5%. Beyond those limits, the exact ethanol content in any given batch of gas depends on price of ethanol. If it’s cheap relative to oil, they’ll push toward max, and if expensive, they’ll push toward min. And as far as thanking Obama, yes you can, but it should be real thanks, not the sarcastic thanks that you issued. Obama led the recently successful effort to repeal the ethanol tax credit, over the strong objections of the Republicans. Thanks to Obama’s willingness to fight the Republicans on taxes for corporations and ridiculously rich folks like Romney, the price of ethanol is now 50 cents per gallon higher (the amount of the now eliminated tax credit). That in turn means that things will now trend toward putting minimum rather than maximum allowable ethanol in gas.

01VETTECOP

keep votiong for obama idiots !

FortMorganAl

Yes, the politicians want to go to 15% but the car manufacturers among others are objecting because that will cause another round of engine redesign. http://content.usatoday.com/communit...from-10-now-/1

The politicians supposedly want to do this because the fuel manufacturers are happy to keep running way below the federal mandates and just pay the fines. http://fuelfix.com/blog/2012/01/12/e...existant-fuel/ You're paying the bill through higher prices so why should they care?

jksvet

Not going to happen. The underground tanks and lines that are currently in place are not certified to use more than a 10% blend, a huge % of the cars on the road can't use the stuff, all kind of issues from a retailer labeling and liability standpoint, a long with a lot of other issues. Not an Obama fan, but it was his predecesor that signed the law mandating that all these billion gallons of ethanol get produced. Fortunately, the subsidies for this stuff has finally come to an end.

Nice Ride

What they say and what they do are not always the same. Nothing surprises me with the Obama Administration. If gas goes to 15% alcohol over time it will damage the internal components of your fuel system quicker and the high price of most everything involving corn from corn flakes to beef t-bones is going to rise. Obama just killed a Canadian based pipeline to bring oil to the USA so look for the price to go much higher. He did promise "change".

Top_Fuel

Ethanol subsidies expired about a week ago. HERE is a link to the story.

Vette5.5

There's been talk of this for years, but as already mentioned really just something to highlight in the political arena. Truth is, we have lot's of refinery capacity in this country, and actually export lots of finished gasoline’s and oils to other countries. It's all about the buck. South America's another story, as really on a crusade to break foreign oil dependency. They produce lots of beet sugar there, and think their fuels are up to about 25% ethanol now.

CH-Z51

Thats great news I usually go out of my way to use only pure gas in every vehicle I own.

strawboss

i'd rather see my fuel dollar subsidise a renewable fuel thats domestically produced rather than buy fossil fuel from the mid east where its used to fund terrorism against us!

phileaglesfan

Actually we are exporting a lot of gas right now. Ethanol is not a fuel source. It IS a food source. We CAN live with out fuel someday, we cannot live without food. Ethanol decreased gas mileage, put a demand on one of our food products used for feed and the damage to our cars will be a few years away. So eventually it costs more in the end in 3 different ways and doesn't do anything to save the environment because you need 10% more gas to burn the 10% you took out to put the ethanol in.

strawboss

just to clue you in, its going to be tough to produce food and get it to market without fuel!!! french fries dont come from McDonalds!!!!

JSB LS3

I wonder what this means exactly for heavily modified cars tuned on the previous formula (boost, high compression, etc). I would think it's reasonable to assume more ethanol would only raise the octane level a minute amount but I'm no chemist.

I'm always paranoid about things like this with the blower on the car.

speedlink

Don't buy in to that load of CRAP about green house gas's. More junk science! The little bit of difference it makes is so minor.

speedlink

2nd that!!!!

speedlink

There isn't enough space on here to discuss how wrong you are about Obama.

strawboss

you may need a custom tune...if you up your ethanol percentage.

LDB

Changing the percent ethanol in the fuel does not change octane. They will still blend to the stated pump octane. Since ethanol is a high octane component, if they blend more of it, they will simply reduce refining severity on the base gasoline so that the octane of the resulting blend stays at whatever is posted on the pump.

Surely you aren’t going to try to tell me that the Republicans are responsible for getting rid of the ethanol tax credit, or that they favor raising taxes on corporations and zillionaires. Those are the only things I mentioned in relation to Obama. If you dislike the man’s politics, that’s your right, but you shouldn’t call me wrong about Obama whan all I’ve done is correctly state a few facts about things he has done or is trying to do.