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Old 10-12-2011, 04:51 AM   #1
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If this saves someone a lot of grief, it's worth the post.

To set the corvette parking brake, have engine running,
push the brake pedal normally, while lifting the parking brake all
the way up.

I see many people just lift the lever, engine off and no brake pedal.
The brake pedal sets the brake tension.
Sorry for the boring thread.
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Old 10-12-2011, 05:05 AM   #2
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Not sure where you got this information, but not correct at all. The brake pedal/system in the C6 is not tied to the emergency brake in any way. Two independent systems.
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Old 10-12-2011, 05:17 AM   #3
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Not sure where you got this information, but not correct at all. The brake pedal/system in the C6 is not tied to the emergency brake in any way. Two independent systems.
The pedal puts pressure on the rear pads, the lever puts pressure
and holds the pads against the rotor.
Using the lever alone a woman would not get enough pressure to
hold the car.
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Old 10-12-2011, 05:21 AM   #4
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Not sure where you got this information, but not correct at all. The brake pedal/system in the C6 is not tied to the emergency brake in any way. Two independent systems.
...and it's NOT an emergency brake it's a parking brake.
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Old 10-12-2011, 05:25 AM   #5
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Not sure where you got this information, but not correct at all. The brake pedal/system in the C6 is not tied to the emergency brake in any way. Two independent systems.
Sorry, o/p is right, you are wrong. Read section 9-35 of the owners manual. It states exactly what the o/p has stated. http://www.chevrolet.com/assets/pdf/...ner_Manual.pdf
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Old 10-12-2011, 05:26 AM   #6
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The pedal puts pressure on the rear pads, the lever puts pressure
and holds the pads against the rotor.
Using the lever alone a woman would not get enough pressure to
hold the car.
You don't understand how the "parking brake" works on the C6. There is a small set of actual "brake shoes" inside the rear rotors that are the parking brake. The actual pads have no connection to the parking brake itself. You should do a little research to educate yourself on the brake system of the C6.

And while driving, if your main brakes fail, you would be calling that an "emergency brake"!
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Old 10-12-2011, 05:32 AM   #7
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Sorry, o/p is right, you are wrong. Read section 9-35 of the owners manual. It states exactly what the o/p has stated. http://www.chevrolet.com/assets/pdf/...ner_Manual.pdf
That is to keep the car from moving while you are setting the parking brake. The two systems are independent.
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Old 10-12-2011, 05:38 AM   #8
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Not sure where you got this information, but not correct at all. The brake pedal/system in the C6 is not tied to the emergency brake in any way. Two independent systems.
From the Corvette C6 manual....

The parking brake lever is located
to the right of the center console.
To set the parking brake, hold the
brake pedal down. Pull the parking
brake lever up. If the ignition is on,
the brake system warning light will
come on.
To release the parking brake, hold
the brake pedal down. Then push
the release button in as you move
the parking brake lever all the
way down.

Can't you just go away?
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Old 10-12-2011, 05:42 AM   #9
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From the Corvette C6 manual....

The parking brake lever is located
to the right of the center console.
To set the parking brake, hold the
brake pedal down. Pull the parking
brake lever up. If the ignition is on,
the brake system warning light will
come on.
To release the parking brake, hold
the brake pedal down. Then push
the release button in as you move
the parking brake lever all the
way down.

Can't you just go away?
That means nothing in trying to prove your point. Your just making a big assumption. Like I said, that is to keep the car from moving while you set the parking brake. Safety first. The same for when you release the parking brake. Hold the brake pedal down so the car does not roll when you release the parking brake. The two systems are not connected.

Here are the parts: http://store.gmpartshouse.com/partlo...layCatalogid=0

And no, I won't go away!

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Old 10-12-2011, 05:52 AM   #10
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From the Corvette C6 manual....

The parking brake lever is located
to the right of the center console.
To set the parking brake, hold the
brake pedal down. Pull the parking
brake lever up. If the ignition is on,
the brake system warning light will
come on.
To release the parking brake, hold
the brake pedal down. Then push
the release button in as you move
the parking brake lever all the
way down.

Can't you just go away?
You're correct that this is what the manual says to do, but I don't think youre correct when you say "the brake pedal sets the brake tension". I appreciate you're wanting to warn people, but if you're giving them incorrect information, it's worse than not saying anything at all.

Why would you want someone to just go away when they're trying to correct the wrong info? Are you really trying to help people? If so, let's make sure it's the right info!

The manual also says you should park manual transmission vehicles in reverse... And then people go and say "it's to prevent DBS", when it's really just because it's safer to park with the tranny in reverse (especially with the weak parking brake!).

I believe the parking brake system is separate, and pushing the break pedal when setting the p-brake doesn't change the p-brake engagement at all. But I'm really happy to learn the facts!

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Old 10-12-2011, 06:22 AM   #11
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You're correct that this is what the manual says to do, but I don't think youre correct when you say "the brake pedal sets the brake tension". I appreciate you're wanting to warn people, but if you're giving them incorrect information, it's worse than not saying anything at all.

Why would you want someone to just go away when they're trying to correct the wrong info? Are you really trying to help people? If so, let's make sure it's the right info!

The manual also says you should park manual transmission vehicles in reverse... And then people go and say "it's to prevent DBS", when it's really just because it's safer to park with the tranny in reverse (especially with the weak parking brake!).

I believe the parking brake system is separate, and pushing the break pedal when setting the p-brake doesn't change the p-brake engagement at all. But I'm really happy to learn the facts!


If there is something here that I am wrong about, no problem admitting that. It's all about education.
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Old 10-12-2011, 06:26 AM   #12
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You don't understand how the "parking brake" works on the C6. There is a small set of actual "brake shoes" inside the rear rotors that are the parking brake. The actual pads have no connection to the parking brake itself. You should do a little research to educate yourself on the brake system of the C6.

And while driving, if your main brakes fail, you would be calling that an "emergency brake"!
That is my understanding also.
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Old 10-12-2011, 06:29 AM   #13
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I believe the owners manual wins this one.
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I believe the owners manual wins this one.
Explain why you think that.
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Old 10-12-2011, 06:33 AM   #15
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Here is a good thread on the subject from 2007. Same braking system today.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...rake-work.html
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Old 10-12-2011, 07:41 AM   #16
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From the Corvette C6 manual....

The parking brake lever is located
to the right of the center console.
To set the parking brake, hold the
brake pedal down. Pull the parking
brake lever up. If the ignition is on,
the brake system warning light will
come on.
To release the parking brake, hold
the brake pedal down. Then push
the release button in as you move
the parking brake lever all the
way down.

Can't you just go away?
You hold the brake pedal to hold the car in place while you set the parking brake. The parking brake is not tied to the regular brakes in any way. Two totally independent systems. And its not nice to tell someone to go away when they are correcting your mis-information. I believe an apology is in order.
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Old 10-12-2011, 07:47 AM   #17
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Not sure where you got this information, but not correct at all. The brake pedal/system in the C6 is not tied to the emergency brake in any way. Two independent systems.
The C6 disc brake system and the parking / emergency brake are completely independent. The only common components are the rear brake rotors as the parking brake drums are integral with the rotors. Years ago there were many makes and models with 4 wheel disc brakes that did have the parking brake mechanism built into the caliper / pad / rotor assy. That system did not work very well , and now virtually all 4 wheel disc brake equipped cars and light trucks employ the separate system via integral drum. The owners manual does not imply otherwise. What it states is for the purpose of not abusing the drum portion of the system, I E , stop all motion / inertia with the hydraulic disc system, then hold the vehicle with the separate hand brake.
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You hold the brake pedal to hold the car in place while you set the parking brake. The parking brake is not tied to the regular brakes in any way. Two totally independent systems. And its not nice to tell someone to go away when they are correcting your mis-information. I believe an apology is in order.
I think the GM lawyers wrote that passage in the Owners Manual. I think we have all seen that with cars and other products over the past several decades. The corvette disc brake system since the early 60s has always used an independent set of drum shoes for the rear parking brake. I replaced my own on my 72 shark that I owned for 34 years.
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Here is a good thread on the subject from 2007. Same braking system today.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...rake-work.html
I agree! For those who would like to understand the system, look at that thread, especially talon90's picture in post #6. And then look at dave pawlowski's explanation in post #28 (he has other good explanations in that same thread).

Forget the other bs about "feelings" and "this is what I remember about my 1980s car" and cut to the important posts.
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You don't understand how the "parking brake" works on the C6. There is a small set of actual "brake shoes" inside the rear rotors that are the parking brake. The actual pads have no connection to the parking brake itself. You should do a little research to educate yourself on the brake system of the C6.

And while driving, if your main brakes fail, you would be calling that an "emergency brake"!


I agree completely with what you have been saying. They are two separate systems. Holding your foot on the brake has nothing to do with the engagement of the e-brake.
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