Do You Get 'Blacklisted' at Dealership Because of Mods?
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Do You Get 'Blacklisted' at Dealership Because of Mods?
I know some have been denied warranty work because they had a tuned ECM. When they see you have modified your car, do they log this information in their computer system so any dealership you take it to knows not to do warranty work on your car? Or do you get another try at each dealership?
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That was one reason I decided not to mod my 06 LS2 coupe and buy a 100% stock Z06. I wanted more performance but it had to be factory HP.
Tom
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If a tune is all you've done, you might get away with an ECM swap if the warranty work is unrelated to performance. if the problem concerns cosmetics or a failure of a small component you might not even need to switch the ECM. Good luck.
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I'm told they can detect a ECM swap, something about "check digits" not matching what GM has on file but it does require them to send some data from the ECM to GM so they'd have to go out of there way to do that.
That was one reason I decided not to mod my 06 LS2 coupe and buy a 100% stock Z06. I wanted more performance but it had to be factory HP.
Tom
That was one reason I decided not to mod my 06 LS2 coupe and buy a 100% stock Z06. I wanted more performance but it had to be factory HP.
Tom
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"...swap out the ECM."
If you performance modify your car be honest...be responsible for your actions. If you de-mod your car in an attempt to defraud GM you're just being a thief. I'm sorry but it is what it is.
If you performance modify your car be honest...be responsible for your actions. If you de-mod your car in an attempt to defraud GM you're just being a thief. I'm sorry but it is what it is.
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But I also see no practical difference in taking a car to a dealership knowing you have voided the warranty just hoping a tech doesn't find out and trying to make it look like it hasn't been modded hoping a tech doesn't find out. The former is just more passive.
I DO see a difference if the mod is the thing that caused the failure.
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but they will run that vin and look for any reason to void the war.
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The ECU tracks CVN #'s. Any non GM issued CVN calibration codes and your screwed. GM is wise to the aftermarket and should not be responsible for peoples modifications hurting the cars. They started doing this in 2006 in the diesel trucks.
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I'm told they can detect a ECM swap, something about "check digits" not matching what GM has on file but it does require them to send some data from the ECM to GM so they'd have to go out of there way to do that.
That was one reason I decided not to mod my 06 LS2 coupe and buy a 100% stock Z06. I wanted more performance but it had to be factory HP.
Tom
That was one reason I decided not to mod my 06 LS2 coupe and buy a 100% stock Z06. I wanted more performance but it had to be factory HP.
Tom
It's why I waited until my GM warranty was finished on my 06 before cranking up the HP. With 600+ hp it's now a lot more fun to drive!!
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FRAUD ALERT!
It is guys like this who make it necessary to really have ANY used Corvettes checked carefully by a GM dealer to make sure of what you are buying. Getting ECMs carefully inspected and certified by the dealer can make a huge difference in repair costs down the road.
Clearly modded cars, I can understand but I wouldn't buy a used, supposedly stock Vette without doing so.
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I seriously doubt you couldn't get warranty work on something totally unrelated like, let's say bad ball joints, because of an ECM tune...
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If you changed your ECM before the tune and put your tune on the new ECM, you could put the original ECM back in before doing any warranty work. I'm not advocating fraud but I think my idea would work. I'm sure someone will set me straight if I'm wrong.