What mods would it take to get a LS3 to stock Z06 power?
#1
Burning Brakes
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What mods would it take to get a LS3 to stock Z06 power?
Whats the cheapest way to get an LS3 equal to 06+ Z06 type power?
Just trying to figure out with wheels and tires and mods how much itll run me.
Just trying to figure out with wheels and tires and mods how much itll run me.
#2
Drifting
This is what you will hear from most.
It's not just the extra hp, it's a completely different car, aluminum frame, dry sump, better brakes, big rubber, etc.
You can add 100 more hp but it will never be a Z.
Just buy the might Z and you won't look back.
And they are right, it will never be a Z.
Headers, cam, gears, tune should get you close.
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I know you said nothing about turning a stock vette into a Z. You just asked about what it would take to get the power but I have a feeling you are going to get a sermon on how you can't turn a stock C6 into a Z by just adding power. Headers, cam and tune should get you there. I'm going with a SC in a few months and that should be a blast and I can't wait. I'm not trying to turn my car into a Z but having 550 HP is going to be awesome. I don't think you are getting that kind of HP for under $4k-5k if you choose a shop that has a good rep and the work is done correctly with high quality parts. You don't want to skimp here.
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#4
Burning Brakes
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I know you said nothing about turning a stock vette into a Z. You just asked about what it would take to get the power but I have a feeling you are going to get a sermon on how you can't turn a stock C6 into a Z by just adding power. Headers, cam and tune should get you there. I'm going with a SC in a few months and that should be a blast and I can't wait. I'm not trying to turn my car into a Z but having 550 HP is going to be awesome. I don't think you are getting that kind of HP for under $4k-5k if you choose a shop that has a good rep and the work is done correctly with high quality parts. You don't want to skimp here.
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Race Director
I think you need to remove the word "cheap" if you are going to start thinking about adding big power. You are talking about adding about 70-80HP to get to stock Z06 power levels.
I would go with a Supercharger and be done with it. A big cam, headers, tune would get you close, but that is going to effect drivabilty. With the supercharger the car will drive stock until you hit the fun pedal. Money-wise for a blower you are looking at around 7k easy with parts and labor/tune.
You gotta pay to play as they say
I would go with a Supercharger and be done with it. A big cam, headers, tune would get you close, but that is going to effect drivabilty. With the supercharger the car will drive stock until you hit the fun pedal. Money-wise for a blower you are looking at around 7k easy with parts and labor/tune.
You gotta pay to play as they say
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Drifting
I have LG headers and CAI and Tune I gained like 55 rwhp from this. My Base C6 is unbelievwable now. I could probably keep up with a stock Zo6 up to 100 then after that I think they would pull on me. My car is a 6 speed manuel. JMO
#9
Team Owner
This is what you will hear from most.
It's not just the extra hp, it's a completely different car, aluminum frame, dry sump, better brakes, big rubber, etc.
You can add 100 more hp but it will never be a Z.
Just buy the might Z and you won't look back.
And they are right, it will never be a Z.
Headers, cam, gears, tune should get you close.
It's not just the extra hp, it's a completely different car, aluminum frame, dry sump, better brakes, big rubber, etc.
You can add 100 more hp but it will never be a Z.
Just buy the might Z and you won't look back.
And they are right, it will never be a Z.
Headers, cam, gears, tune should get you close.
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My 06 has a Vortech T-Trim and longtubes and makes 522rwhp on a very safe tune. The Z06 puts about 460-470 wheels. I added CCW wheels with Z06 sized tires and Z06 brakes to help handle the new found power. And yes, I know its not a Z. I chose the power route instead of making my car look like a Z06.
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If you're only talking 1/4 mile times for comparison to a Z, it's a lot easier and cheaper.
A well experienced Z06 driver will run 11.5x in average conditions with a bone stock car.
With a lot less seat time, a LS3 with a 3600 stall, headers, CAI, DR, and tune will equal or better that time. You won't have the raw HP, but the converter will compensate to get quicker ETs.
If you buy used and wrench yourself, you could be under $2K. Double that if you buy new/labor.
With just a tune, a propped shroud, and some seat time, the LS3 A6 will hang with most inexperienced Zs. I've seen many struggle to run 12.00 and some give up trying. A Z is not an easy car to launch.
A well experienced Z06 driver will run 11.5x in average conditions with a bone stock car.
With a lot less seat time, a LS3 with a 3600 stall, headers, CAI, DR, and tune will equal or better that time. You won't have the raw HP, but the converter will compensate to get quicker ETs.
If you buy used and wrench yourself, you could be under $2K. Double that if you buy new/labor.
With just a tune, a propped shroud, and some seat time, the LS3 A6 will hang with most inexperienced Zs. I've seen many struggle to run 12.00 and some give up trying. A Z is not an easy car to launch.
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#13
Drifting
Pretty ironic after all you posted your car sports a full widebody(Z06 look like) conversion. You will hear from most....Dont try to look like a Z06, it might resemble one and fool some but its not a Z06. Just buy a Z06!.
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My 06 has a Vortech T-Trim and longtubes and makes 522rwhp on a very safe tune. The Z06 puts about 460-470 wheels. I added CCW wheels with Z06 sized tires and Z06 brakes to help handle the new found power. And yes, I know its not a Z. I chose the power route instead of making my car look like a Z06.
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My 06 has a Vortech T-Trim and longtubes and makes 522rwhp on a very safe tune. The Z06 puts about 460-470 wheels. I added CCW wheels with Z06 sized tires and Z06 brakes to help handle the new found power. And yes, I know its not a Z. I chose the power route instead of making my car look like a Z06.
I'm not trying to be a Z06. I think everyone on this forum would like their car to look like the might Z, including me. I couldn't get a White
Z06 in 2008 so I did the widebody.
I guess I went the " Look Good " route instead, for around the same money as a blower.
I'm sure the extra power is nice but even stock or mildly modded, these cars really perform.
To each their own.
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Team Owner
I for one never entertained the thought of doing a widebody. It doesnt appeal that much to me to want to make the move. Besides, I hate it when people I dont know ask me "Duh, is that a Z06?". I like the sleek lines of the standard body, especially with the Z06 tires and brakes tucked under the body. As you say, to each his own.
#15
Race Director
Guys, not to be a dck...but this thread is getting off track..he's not asking about making his car "look" like a Z06 or asking about wide-body conversion ..simply what performance mods will it take to get the stock HP of a Z06.
#16
Drifting
I for one never entertained the thought of doing a widebody. It doesnt appeal that much to me to want to make the move. Besides, I hate it when people I dont know ask me "Duh, is that a Z06?". I like the sleek lines of the standard body, especially with the Z06 tires and brakes tucked under the body. As you say, to each his own.
How well do the rear tires fit the body?
Before I did the widebody I had Z51 fender badges and I would get people asking me " What's a Z51, is that like a Z06 "
No where on my car does it say Z06.
My fender badge says : Socal but the S is a backwards Z and just above the " ocal " I have HP Junky in smaller letters.
The Socal letters are painted red and the HP Junky is in black.
Never meant to hijack this tread but that's how things usually end up.
#17
Burning Brakes
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But after looking at LS3 parts and seeing how much itd cost me to throw on some Z06 wheels, which I love over almost all aftermarket wheels. Id be just a few thousand show of a 06 Z06
I dont even see how 09 LS3s sell right now since they are about the going price for a 06 Z correct?
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to keep up with the z your ganna need at least 25rwhp to 50rwhp more than them...given they weight about 100-200lbs less which equals about 10-20hp, then the have sweet gearing so add another 10-20rwhp...intake exhaust cam tune and your there. or intake exhaust tune nitrous. pick you poison. with a 100 shot you should walk. (given equal drivers).
good thing you didn't say you had a GS people would have been gettin on you about your car being a fake z.....o wait that happened anyway lol
This wanna be z persecution stuff has to stop.
good thing you didn't say you had a GS people would have been gettin on you about your car being a fake z.....o wait that happened anyway lol
This wanna be z persecution stuff has to stop.
#19
Race Director
lol thanks, hell I think 3 posts couldve handled this thread. Its as easy as saying. Headers, cam, tune
But after looking at LS3 parts and seeing how much itd cost me to throw on some Z06 wheels, which I love over almost all aftermarket wheels. Id be just a few thousand show of a 06 Z06
I dont even see how 09 LS3s sell right now since they are about the going price for a 06 Z correct?
But after looking at LS3 parts and seeing how much itd cost me to throw on some Z06 wheels, which I love over almost all aftermarket wheels. Id be just a few thousand show of a 06 Z06
I dont even see how 09 LS3s sell right now since they are about the going price for a 06 Z correct?
I picked up my 07 Z06 July last year for under 42k There are some nice 06 and 07 Z06's for sale out there if you are considering going that route. Considering what the car is and it's performance, getting them even in the high 40's is a steal!
The only down-side to the 06's and some 07's is they are out of Powertrain Warranty (5 years or 100k miles). I was actually considering a used modded C5, or slightly modded C6, and then I saw some of the Z's going in the 40's and said screw it Could not be happier I got one. I miss the removable top a little..but not that much...and every time I hit the pedal and the LS7 responds..I forget all about the removable top
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Yea it's all in what someone wants in the car. The Z06, you cannot remove the top, and that is a Big deal for some, so even though the 09LS3's are in the same ball-park price-wise, lots of peolple like the looks of the LS3 (coupe or vert or GS) and have to have the removable top and some of the other creature-comforts of the non-Z06 cars.
I picked up my 07 Z06 July last year for under 42k There are some nice 06 and 07 Z06's for sale out there if you are considering going that route. Considering what the car is and it's performance, getting them even in the high 40's is a steal!
The only down-side to the 06's and some 07's is they are out of Powertrain Warranty (5 years or 100k miles). I was actually considering a used modded C5, or slightly modded C6, and then I saw some of the Z's going in the 40's and said screw it Could not be happier I got one. I miss the removable top a little..but not that much...and every time I hit the pedal and the LS7 responds..I forget all about the removable top
I picked up my 07 Z06 July last year for under 42k There are some nice 06 and 07 Z06's for sale out there if you are considering going that route. Considering what the car is and it's performance, getting them even in the high 40's is a steal!
The only down-side to the 06's and some 07's is they are out of Powertrain Warranty (5 years or 100k miles). I was actually considering a used modded C5, or slightly modded C6, and then I saw some of the Z's going in the 40's and said screw it Could not be happier I got one. I miss the removable top a little..but not that much...and every time I hit the pedal and the LS7 responds..I forget all about the removable top