What mods would it take to get a LS3 to stock Z06 power?
01-07-2011, 01:42 AM
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Not that much difference in HP 430 vs 505 but the Z is a different animal, bigger motor, tires, brakes etc and it looks stunning 
You would be hard pressed to put the added power down with a Base C6/Z51 without modifying it, the LS3 is a stout motor and would take to added HP mods well as long as you don't push it too far, enjoy modding the car and good luck
You would be hard pressed to put the added power down with a Base C6/Z51 without modifying it, the LS3 is a stout motor and would take to added HP mods well as long as you don't push it too far, enjoy modding the car and good luck
01-07-2011, 09:32 AM
#42
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Not that much difference in HP 430 vs 505 but the Z is a different animal, bigger motor, tires, brakes etc and it looks stunning You would be hard pressed to put the added power down with a Base C6/Z51 without modifying it, the LS3 is a stout motor and would take to added HP mods well as long as you don't push it too far, enjoy modding the car and good luck
You would be hard pressed to put the added power down with a Base C6/Z51 without modifying it, the LS3 is a stout motor and would take to added HP mods well as long as you don't push it too far, enjoy modding the car and good luck
but I disagree with that part of your statement You know what I can't figure out... if there is not that much difference between 430HP and 505HP... then why do so many people mod their cars?? How many header threads, CAI Threads, TUNE threads do we see of people trying to squeeze every bit of HP out of the car. How many Chuck Cow Tune threads do we see where someone is thanking him for the tune, and they picked up X HP just with a tune and intake?
We Z06 folks do the same thing too, how much HP can we get out of mod X.
Talk to any major vendor on this board, and ask them what is probably the first question they get asked when someone is going to buy a mod from them, or have them install a mod...."how much HP wll this make or add"?
We just had a 8 page thread debating "Is Cold Air Intake Worth it"
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01-07-2011, 09:41 AM
#43
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Please don't take this the wrong way, but I disagree with that part of your statement (and to the others, no, I am not an arrogant or over-sensitive Z06 owner... just debating his statement that 75HP is not that much)
You know what I can't figure out... if there is not that much difference between 430HP and 505HP... then why do so many people mod their cars?? How many header threads, CAI Threads, TUNE threads do we see of people trying to squeeze every bit of HP out of the car. How many Chuck Cow Tune threads do we see where someone is thanking him for the tune, and they picked up X HP just with a tune and intake?
We Z06 folks do the same thing too, how much HP can we get out of mod X.
Talk to any major vendor on this board, and ask them what is probably the first question they get asked when someone is going to buy a mod from them, or have them install a mod...."how much HP wll this make or add"?
We just had a 8 page thread debating "Is Cold Air Intake Worth it"
but I disagree with that part of your statement (and to the others, no, I am not an arrogant or over-sensitive Z06 owner... just debating his statement that 75HP is not that much)You know what I can't figure out... if there is not that much difference between 430HP and 505HP... then why do so many people mod their cars?? How many header threads, CAI Threads, TUNE threads do we see of people trying to squeeze every bit of HP out of the car. How many Chuck Cow Tune threads do we see where someone is thanking him for the tune, and they picked up X HP just with a tune and intake?
We Z06 folks do the same thing too, how much HP can we get out of mod X.
Talk to any major vendor on this board, and ask them what is probably the first question they get asked when someone is going to buy a mod from them, or have them install a mod...."how much HP wll this make or add"?
We just had a 8 page thread debating "Is Cold Air Intake Worth it"
It's frakin' hilarious that some will claim the 40-50HP they gained with headers,exhaust,cai & tune turned there car into a monster......then in the next thread say the 69-75 HP advantage the Z06 enjoys is inconsequential.
Can't have your cake & eat it too.
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01-07-2011, 10:12 AM
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Please don't take this the wrong way, but I disagree with that part of your statement
You know what I can't figure out... if there is not that much difference between 430HP and 505HP... then why do so many people mod their cars?? How many header threads, CAI Threads, TUNE threads do we see of people trying to squeeze every bit of HP out of the car. How many Chuck Cow Tune threads do we see where someone is thanking him for the tune, and they picked up X HP just with a tune and intake?
We Z06 folks do the same thing too, how much HP can we get out of mod X.
Talk to any major vendor on this board, and ask them what is probably the first question they get asked when someone is going to buy a mod from them, or have them install a mod...."how much HP wll this make or add"?
We just had a 8 page thread debating "Is Cold Air Intake Worth it"
but I disagree with that part of your statement You know what I can't figure out... if there is not that much difference between 430HP and 505HP... then why do so many people mod their cars?? How many header threads, CAI Threads, TUNE threads do we see of people trying to squeeze every bit of HP out of the car. How many Chuck Cow Tune threads do we see where someone is thanking him for the tune, and they picked up X HP just with a tune and intake?
We Z06 folks do the same thing too, how much HP can we get out of mod X.
Talk to any major vendor on this board, and ask them what is probably the first question they get asked when someone is going to buy a mod from them, or have them install a mod...."how much HP wll this make or add"?
We just had a 8 page thread debating "Is Cold Air Intake Worth it"
01-07-2011, 10:37 AM
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I picked up 47 rwhp with bolt on mods. Fun yes, Power Monster no. But being reasonable I would have to think that, in every Day use, the bolt on modded C6 with 4:10's, or even a stock C6, is a Power Monster for the street when taking into consideration our Traffic Laws and good common sense.
The More Power syndrome is never ending......What if, what if....
01-07-2011, 10:48 AM
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starting to look that way more and more these days
07-03-2020, 10:07 PM
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07-04-2020, 09:14 AM
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I made the same newbie mistake when I first started, did not check the date of the last reply and commented on a thread that was dormant for years... woops
When I did the unthinkable, instead of someone HELPING me with a PM or message saying "may want to check those thread dates" I got a useless d-bag message like yours..
When I did the unthinkable, instead of someone HELPING me with a PM or message saying "may want to check those thread dates" I got a useless d-bag message like yours..
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07-04-2020, 12:54 PM
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07-05-2020, 07:10 AM
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$10K, hence TVS-2300.
Simply, the LS7 has a great deal of torque way down in the power band so you can grunt out corners in a higher gear than needed.
In N/A motors, there is not substitution for displacement.
If you want to talk HP numbers only (and not torque), then Even I can pull that out of a Stock LS3 instead.
Hence the more the motor winds up higher in RPM's, the higher the HP number is. Mean while back at the ranch, torque number started to take a dive around 5K, and by the time you have the motor reving up to the point your about a stick a vavle, it has no torque to speed of instead.
This is the reason that only looking at the HP number, and not the torque number on the LS3 that start to drop around 5K, means nothing.
So stock LS7 makes 505 horsepower at 6200 RPM and 475 lb-ft of torque at 4800 RPM.
Of the two numbers, its the torque amount number you need to focus on for the street, and that means what the motor is going to make under 5K rpms instead.
Simply, the LS7 has a great deal of torque way down in the power band so you can grunt out corners in a higher gear than needed.
In N/A motors, there is not substitution for displacement.
If you want to talk HP numbers only (and not torque), then Even I can pull that out of a Stock LS3 instead.
Hence the more the motor winds up higher in RPM's, the higher the HP number is. Mean while back at the ranch, torque number started to take a dive around 5K, and by the time you have the motor reving up to the point your about a stick a vavle, it has no torque to speed of instead.
This is the reason that only looking at the HP number, and not the torque number on the LS3 that start to drop around 5K, means nothing.
So stock LS7 makes 505 horsepower at 6200 RPM and 475 lb-ft of torque at 4800 RPM.
Of the two numbers, its the torque amount number you need to focus on for the street, and that means what the motor is going to make under 5K rpms instead.
07-05-2020, 12:08 PM
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ill jump in on this 9 year old thread lol NA vs NA the LS7 is NOT gonna be topped by the LS3 but once you start boosting these motors the LS3 will make more power and live longer than an LS7 hands down now if you own an A6 LS3 and just want to race and beat the LS7 Z06 then just add a stall converter you would probably beat 99% of the C6 Z06 owners anyway just based on the fact that although driving a Manual is easy enough but "racing" one is another ball game and unless your racing Ranger on here you got nothing to worry about lmao
07-06-2020, 03:01 PM
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$10K, hence TVS-2300.
Simply, the LS7 has a great deal of torque way down in the power band so you can grunt out corners in a higher gear than needed.
In N/A motors, there is not substitution for displacement.
If you want to talk HP numbers only (and not torque), then Even I can pull that out of a Stock LS3 instead.
Hence the more the motor winds up higher in RPM's, the higher the HP number is. Mean while back at the ranch, torque number started to take a dive around 5K, and by the time you have the motor reving up to the point your about a stick a vavle, it has no torque to speed of instead.
This is the reason that only looking at the HP number, and not the torque number on the LS3 that start to drop around 5K, means nothing.
So stock LS7 makes 505 horsepower at 6200 RPM and 475 lb-ft of torque at 4800 RPM.
Of the two numbers, its the torque amount number you need to focus on for the street, and that means what the motor is going to make under 5K rpms instead.
Simply, the LS7 has a great deal of torque way down in the power band so you can grunt out corners in a higher gear than needed.
In N/A motors, there is not substitution for displacement.
If you want to talk HP numbers only (and not torque), then Even I can pull that out of a Stock LS3 instead.
Hence the more the motor winds up higher in RPM's, the higher the HP number is. Mean while back at the ranch, torque number started to take a dive around 5K, and by the time you have the motor reving up to the point your about a stick a vavle, it has no torque to speed of instead.
This is the reason that only looking at the HP number, and not the torque number on the LS3 that start to drop around 5K, means nothing.
So stock LS7 makes 505 horsepower at 6200 RPM and 475 lb-ft of torque at 4800 RPM.
Of the two numbers, its the torque amount number you need to focus on for the street, and that means what the motor is going to make under 5K rpms instead.
07-06-2020, 05:22 PM
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07-06-2020, 05:32 PM
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07-11-2020, 11:01 AM
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My 2012 G.S. Corvette " which is Cal state legal"was dyno at 495 HP to the rear wheels after installing a A+A Supercharger kit without any other HP additions being added
07-12-2020, 10:06 AM
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Burning Brakes
honestly what should have been asked was......do you want to make the same if not more HP or do you want to beat it in a race that is two different things
07-12-2020, 12:14 PM
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Peak hp isnt too hard to match. Problem is the torque which comes from the longer stroke
If it were me just put a supercharger on it and call it a day. So much easier, no dicking around with expensive heads, manner issues with cams and so on. Shoulda done the same to mine yrs ago
500 to the tires...smooth idle passing smog wow. Sure have come a long way
My Gen 1 is right around that area and takes a buttload of cam head compression to do it....sure wont last as long either.
If it were me just put a supercharger on it and call it a day. So much easier, no dicking around with expensive heads, manner issues with cams and so on. Shoulda done the same to mine yrs ago
500 to the tires...smooth idle passing smog wow. Sure have come a long way
My Gen 1 is right around that area and takes a buttload of cam head compression to do it....sure wont last as long either.
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