93 Octane Gas - Locations Across USA
Same in Pennsylvania. Sunoco is a major chain here.
09-10-2010, 05:16 PM
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93 octane is the most common premium in Illinois.
Most/all gas here is 10% ethanol.
Most/all gas here is 10% ethanol.
09-10-2010, 05:22 PM
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Hi Gearhead - I'm in the Chicago burbs also. Do you know of any places near Geneva? All I've seen around town is 91.
Also there was a thread a month or two ago where someone said that the 10% ethanol was gumming up parts over the long-haul. It seems in Illinois I can't find a station where it isn't already added.
Mark
Also there was a thread a month or two ago where someone said that the 10% ethanol was gumming up parts over the long-haul. It seems in Illinois I can't find a station where it isn't already added.
Mark
09-10-2010, 06:23 PM
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Perhaps it's a Kane County thing? Too close to the air "problems" in Chicago? Out here in McHenry County with the cows, I seldom see 91, it's mostly 93.
I don't think I've had a gasoline-related problem in the 30+ years we've been living here, and that's included ethanol for a long time. I always buy Top Tier gas from stations that do a lot of business, does that help or am I just lucky?
I don't think I've had a gasoline-related problem in the 30+ years we've been living here, and that's included ethanol for a long time. I always buy Top Tier gas from stations that do a lot of business, does that help or am I just lucky?
09-10-2010, 06:47 PM
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mine is tuned for 91 but is saw 93 at the Cenex Station in Billings, MT. It's the only one I've ever seen.
09-10-2010, 08:09 PM
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Perhaps it's a Kane County thing? Too close to the air "problems" in Chicago? Out here in McHenry County with the cows, I seldom see 91, it's mostly 93.
I don't think I've had a gasoline-related problem in the 30+ years we've been living here, and that's included ethanol for a long time. I always buy Top Tier gas from stations that do a lot of business, does that help or am I just lucky?
I don't think I've had a gasoline-related problem in the 30+ years we've been living here, and that's included ethanol for a long time. I always buy Top Tier gas from stations that do a lot of business, does that help or am I just lucky?
Yes ...... on both accounts!
09-10-2010, 08:59 PM
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Thanks all we are doing pretty good for the first day. Seems I live in one of the states that is harder to find. But feel for those living in California.
09-10-2010, 09:03 PM
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I'm 60 years old. Most likely you're considerably younger. Your post was deja vu for me.
At one time I owned a very nice "stable" of gen one Camaros. Why Camaros? Nostalgia pure and simple they look good but perform terrible etc.
Anyway, I owned two flawless '69 Z-28s and several '68 396s. The Z-28s ( a beautiful car that is a total dog in terms of speed and handling) were stock 11:1 compression. The big blocks were milder at 10.5:1.
I remember vividly planning trips based on where I could STILL GET leaded premium ( like 100 octane ). When that was all gone I started keeping track of where I could get leaded regular to which I'd add higher octane unleaded and various octane boosters I experiemented with.
If I got the "mix" in my tank wrong...even by a little....especially in the Zs......you would not believe the knock. The cars could not be driven at all much less in anything near WOT. NO FUN!!!!
Eventually I sold all these old dogs. The leaded gas was all gone. The octane boosters were a hassle and didn't work anyway.
But I'll say this for Chevy back then.....when these cars that were made to run on aviation gas were sold the gas was available. Nobody even guessed that their fuel would be GONE in just a few years.
The Z06 was introduced and sales began at a time when the recommended fuel for it...93 octane....was unavailable in a very large portion of the U.S. Now the 93 is going bye bye.
But......here's the greater problem.....more and more fuels are being sold that contain alcohol. In my state it's 90/10 by law all year around to reduce air pollution supposedly.
Recently I recall a topic about how converting a vette to E85 was no big deal. I'm skeptical.
What "they" did in the 70s was to junk tens of millions of cars prematurely simply by making their fuel unavailable. It was so simple.
My advice to those of you who didn't live through the withdrawal of leaded premium and then all leaded gas is to really really really enjoy being able to buy GASOLINE. The day may come and it may come FAST that you can't get anything to put in your vette or other newer car.
Footnote: You think I'm an alarmist or just an old fool to be concerned? My only comment to that would be look around you and consider what you'd do if the best fuel you could get was , say, 50% gasoline and the rest alcohol with an octane of 85 or less.
Yes, we all knew back then that there were ways to adapt the old cars to new fuel. Yes, you could rebuild them at lower compression. Yes you could tweak the timing. But , ultimately, just as in a car like the vette that automatically adjusts for octane ( supposedly ) when you do the adjustments you invariably reduce hp and usually won't entirely eliminate the knock.
At one time I owned a very nice "stable" of gen one Camaros. Why Camaros? Nostalgia pure and simple they look good but perform terrible etc.
Anyway, I owned two flawless '69 Z-28s and several '68 396s. The Z-28s ( a beautiful car that is a total dog in terms of speed and handling) were stock 11:1 compression. The big blocks were milder at 10.5:1.
I remember vividly planning trips based on where I could STILL GET leaded premium ( like 100 octane ). When that was all gone I started keeping track of where I could get leaded regular to which I'd add higher octane unleaded and various octane boosters I experiemented with.
If I got the "mix" in my tank wrong...even by a little....especially in the Zs......you would not believe the knock. The cars could not be driven at all much less in anything near WOT. NO FUN!!!!
Eventually I sold all these old dogs. The leaded gas was all gone. The octane boosters were a hassle and didn't work anyway.
But I'll say this for Chevy back then.....when these cars that were made to run on aviation gas were sold the gas was available. Nobody even guessed that their fuel would be GONE in just a few years.
The Z06 was introduced and sales began at a time when the recommended fuel for it...93 octane....was unavailable in a very large portion of the U.S. Now the 93 is going bye bye.
But......here's the greater problem.....more and more fuels are being sold that contain alcohol. In my state it's 90/10 by law all year around to reduce air pollution supposedly.
Recently I recall a topic about how converting a vette to E85 was no big deal. I'm skeptical.
What "they" did in the 70s was to junk tens of millions of cars prematurely simply by making their fuel unavailable. It was so simple.
My advice to those of you who didn't live through the withdrawal of leaded premium and then all leaded gas is to really really really enjoy being able to buy GASOLINE. The day may come and it may come FAST that you can't get anything to put in your vette or other newer car.
Footnote: You think I'm an alarmist or just an old fool to be concerned? My only comment to that would be look around you and consider what you'd do if the best fuel you could get was , say, 50% gasoline and the rest alcohol with an octane of 85 or less.
Yes, we all knew back then that there were ways to adapt the old cars to new fuel. Yes, you could rebuild them at lower compression. Yes you could tweak the timing. But , ultimately, just as in a car like the vette that automatically adjusts for octane ( supposedly ) when you do the adjustments you invariably reduce hp and usually won't entirely eliminate the knock.
I too am at the 60 mark and remember very well the good days of high octane and not caring if my street rod only got 3 or 4 miles to the gallon. In a good nights fun would go thru as many as three tanks of gas a night.
Plus the younger generation never got to experience the good old fashioned gas wars. Now the wars are who can charge the most.
09-10-2010, 09:06 PM
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Kansas:
BP Station
7900 WEST 151ST
OVERLAND PARK 66223
Tel: 913-897-2014
87 / 89 / 93 octanes
Always see nice cars filling up here for the 93. It is the only one in the metro area.
Thanks,
Mike
BP Station
7900 WEST 151ST
OVERLAND PARK 66223
Tel: 913-897-2014
87 / 89 / 93 octanes
Always see nice cars filling up here for the 93. It is the only one in the metro area.
Thanks,
Mike
09-10-2010, 09:18 PM
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09-10-2010, 09:25 PM
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93 octane everywhere around PA.
94 Sunoco Ultra easy to find.
Shell (without Ethanol) availale at a ten cent per gallon premium for occasional use.
And Auto Zone having a buy one get one free special on Techron. Life ain't bad in the Keystone State.
09-10-2010, 09:44 PM
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Extremely difficult to find in higher elevations. 91 is max I've ever seen regular pump gas here. Less O2 in the air to start out with so the higher octanes aren't really going to help much.
