Anybody using Nitrogen in their tires?
#1
Instructor
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Anybody using Nitrogen in their tires?
They say it holds the tire pressure better and reduces tire wear. Does anyone have any experience running their C6 with nitrogen in the tires?
#2
Drifting
Absolutely.
I run nitrogen in my Z-06. Much less fluctuation in tire pressures. I used to see quite a fluctuation in pressures from tires heating up when using air, but nitrogen really does make a difference. As for tire wear, I haven't noticed any change.
I run nitrogen in my Z-06. Much less fluctuation in tire pressures. I used to see quite a fluctuation in pressures from tires heating up when using air, but nitrogen really does make a difference. As for tire wear, I haven't noticed any change.
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Le Mans Master
I use only pure ostrich breath. Not only is there no change in pressure, I've gotten 250,000 miles out of a set of tires and I only had to replace them because they were dirty on the outside. When they were removed from the wheels the inside smelled like lilacs.
Do a search. Nitrogen is mostly snake oil unless you regularly abuse your tires by adding water when you add air. Regular air is 78% nitrogen. A few more percent makes no difference. Any difference seen would come from nitrogen being dry while an air compressor without a functioning dryer and/or lack of maintenance, can introduce water to the tire which expands more when liquid water turns to vapor. Without liquid water, all major gasses in air follow the ideal gas law fairly closely and that included nitrogen.
Do a search. Nitrogen is mostly snake oil unless you regularly abuse your tires by adding water when you add air. Regular air is 78% nitrogen. A few more percent makes no difference. Any difference seen would come from nitrogen being dry while an air compressor without a functioning dryer and/or lack of maintenance, can introduce water to the tire which expands more when liquid water turns to vapor. Without liquid water, all major gasses in air follow the ideal gas law fairly closely and that included nitrogen.
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About the only thing Nitrogen will do...is make your wallet lighter.
#8
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One of the major problems with filling your tires with nitrogen is that very few service stations have it. If you have a low tire, you might have to drive for days to find someone who's got it.
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To answer your question that is not in the snappy reply mode, I do not run nitrogen in my C6, but I do in both my C5s and did in my C4. The nitrogen in the C5s has had the oxygen removed first, and before it is pumped into the tires, the tires are evacuated by the same machine. No loss in pressure yet. In my C4, the dealer put nitrogen in the tires, but did not remove the oxygen nor evacuate the tire other than removing the valves to let the air escape. The C4 did not lose more than 1 psi over the winter in storage, and my spare did not lose any pressure. BTW, when nitrogen is added to the tires, the valve cap is usually replaced with a green cap to indicate that nitrogen has been used. For the C5 with run flats and tire pressure sensors, a special metal cap is used so that the TPS can transmit its signal. Only the top is green. On my C5 Z06, no TPS, a standard metal cap is used that is also green. I suggest that you don't use the plastic valve cap that some dealers provide. The reason I have not used the nitrogen in my 08 is that I still have the original GY EMTs on it and have not bothered changing. I do own a large compressor and check the tires regularily with a digital gage. Nitrogen is a larger molecule than oxygen, and therefore does not pass thru the tire pores as readily as oxygen, thus maintaining pressure longer. Also, oxygen is a strong oxidant and will weather the tires from the inside as well as the outside. Nitrogen does not do this. What I do not understand is why Shell Oil is hyping the nitrogen in their gasoline. I have not noticed any difference in power, mpg, or price. My guess is that it is an oxide of nitrogen and the oxygen is similar to the alcohol added to gasoline during the winter months to reduce emissions. I use Shell mostly (also Phillips and Conoco) because it is a Top Tier fuel. Hope this answers your question.
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I use only pure ostrich breath. Not only is there no change in pressure, I've gotten 250,000 miles out of a set of tires and I only had to replace them because they were dirty on the outside. When they were removed from the wheels the inside smelled like lilacs.
Do a search. Nitrogen is mostly snake oil unless you regularly abuse your tires by adding water when you add air. Regular air is 78% nitrogen. A few more percent makes no difference. Any difference seen would come from nitrogen being dry while an air compressor without a functioning dryer and/or lack of maintenance, can introduce water to the tire which expands more when liquid water turns to vapor. Without liquid water, all major gasses in air follow the ideal gas law fairly closely and that included nitrogen.
Do a search. Nitrogen is mostly snake oil unless you regularly abuse your tires by adding water when you add air. Regular air is 78% nitrogen. A few more percent makes no difference. Any difference seen would come from nitrogen being dry while an air compressor without a functioning dryer and/or lack of maintenance, can introduce water to the tire which expands more when liquid water turns to vapor. Without liquid water, all major gasses in air follow the ideal gas law fairly closely and that included nitrogen.
The only reason nitrogen was used for aircraft then race car tires is that is was manufactured and therefore water free, there just isn't a market for manufactured dry air.
#14
Melting Slicks
Well for the nay sayers...if you don't like it then don't use it....if you haven't used it...then shut up!
NASCAR. NHRA, INDY, RALLIES, SPORTS CAR races... etc,etc, must all be silly to go this route, in the nay sayers world. ( I wonder why these organizations still use it)
IMO both the above posts and are right on!...
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In my vert, I use helium. It is lighter and more plentiful.
I had a friend who used to run hydrogen. That is until with heat build up, he blew two of them off his vette simultaneously. Boy that was rude. He was skidding along on nothing but rims. Which with time he found he like on railroad tracks.
Craig
I had a friend who used to run hydrogen. That is until with heat build up, he blew two of them off his vette simultaneously. Boy that was rude. He was skidding along on nothing but rims. Which with time he found he like on railroad tracks.
Craig
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Get Some!
Well for the nay sayers...if you don't like it then don't use it....if you haven't used it...then shut up!
Nascar. Nhra, indy, rallies, sports car races... Etc,etc, must all be silly to go this route, in the nay sayers world. ( i wonder why these organizations still use it)
imo both the above posts and are right on!...
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Yup, been using 80% Nitrogen in my tire's, for long as memory serve's. Just messing, as it's alway's just been from the Sear's compressor in my garage. Don't think there's any harm using dry Nitrogen from the tire store tank, but not exactly tripping over myself to get it.
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