My new june AUTOMOBILE magazine states C7 will arrive as a 2014 model!
06-26-2010, 05:06 PM
#41
Drifting
Here are the COLD, INDISPUTABLE FACTS:
1 - Yes, the U.S. government does oversee all of GM's decisions.
2 - Yes, the U.S. government had to give the OK before GM engineers could work on the C7.
3 - The C7 will have to have 35MPG or better fuel economy in order to meet EPA standards for California.
4 - The V8 push-rod design is DEAD for the C7.
Most likely the C7 engine will be a V6, DOHC, supercharged version.
1 - Yes, the U.S. government does oversee all of GM's decisions.
2 - Yes, the U.S. government had to give the OK before GM engineers could work on the C7.
3 - The C7 will have to have 35MPG or better fuel economy in order to meet EPA standards for California.
4 - The V8 push-rod design is DEAD for the C7.
Most likely the C7 engine will be a V6, DOHC, supercharged version.
2. Wrong
3. C7 will meet Federal CAFE requirements in effect when built, duh.
4. Very possible
06-26-2010, 05:29 PM
#42
Burning Brakes
Rags like Automobile, Motor Trend etc. ARE NOT SELLING ! So anything you see about the next Gen car is Pure BS ! They are just trying to sell magazines. This is from the horses mouth Corvette Engineer Tadge Juechter. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVycCzxPsuM
06-26-2010, 05:53 PM
#44
c4 ran from 1984 -1996...ran 13 years - 366,000 units built
c5 ran from 1997 - 2004...ran 8 years - 244,000 units built
c6 sales so far - 170,000 units
so no......9 model years of the C6 is not a long wait and you will probably wait longer then 9 years for the c7
to your question...what can they do to keep sales mildly interesting for 3 more years.....probably nothing...the economy needs to recover.
06-26-2010, 05:53 PM
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06-26-2010, 06:01 PM
#46
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Here are the COLD, INDISPUTABLE FACTS:
1 - Yes, the U.S. government does oversee all of GM's decisions.
2 - Yes, the U.S. government had to give the OK before GM engineers could work on the C7.
3 - The C7 will have to have 35MPG or better fuel economy in order to meet EPA standards for California.
4 - The V8 push-rod design is DEAD for the C7.
Most likely the C7 engine will be a V6, DOHC, supercharged version.
1 - Yes, the U.S. government does oversee all of GM's decisions.
2 - Yes, the U.S. government had to give the OK before GM engineers could work on the C7.
3 - The C7 will have to have 35MPG or better fuel economy in order to meet EPA standards for California.
4 - The V8 push-rod design is DEAD for the C7.
Most likely the C7 engine will be a V6, DOHC, supercharged version.
You might want to re-think your statement about "COLD, INDISPUTABLE FACTS".
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06-26-2010, 06:13 PM
#47
Safety Car
As it stands now the C7 will be out in 2013 as a 2014. It may or may not be built in Bowling Green. B/G will have to compete against other GM plants to win the C7 production...
06-26-2010, 07:07 PM
#48
Le Mans Master
Why does it have to meet 35 or better? Do you know what "CAFE" actually stands for? I does not stand for "Corvette Average Fuel Economy". Oh, and do a search, one of the agreements that was made when the new CAFE standards were mandated is that California will not have their own CAFE standards.
You might want to re-think your statement about "COLD, INDISPUTABLE FACTS".
You might want to re-think your statement about "COLD, INDISPUTABLE FACTS".
C7 will happen when/if we see it happen. The rest of this is speculation and fear-mongering - something a large number of folks here get off on in a big way.
But when/if the C7 gets built, don't be surprised if you don't see much larger sales numbers. I'd bet Corvette orders never go up to the numbers we've seen in the past. There are a LOT of reasons - like boomers (a very large group) getting further into retirement and spending less, younger car buyers wanting different kinds of cars, much more competition and a sucky economy.
Bingo! Winner!
06-26-2010, 07:40 PM
#50
Melting Slicks
If you don't think the Federal Government is overseeing GM's decisions on car production, you need to have your thought process examined.
When GM filed for bankruptcy and the subsequent bailout, GM got in bed with the U.S. Gov't. There is NO WAY this administration is giving GM a free ride to do whatever they want. The current govt has people overseeing what GM is doing and if GM decides to make or not make a car, they run it by the govt. To think otherwise is to enter a realm of stupidity.
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06-26-2010, 07:59 PM
#52
Burning Brakes
1. We will flush out the Congress this year
2. We will continue and repeat as necessary until 2014
3. If you love Corvettes you better pull for the Cruze and the Volt
4. This split window thingie could just be something not quite opaque that looks split windowee from the outside...
2. We will continue and repeat as necessary until 2014
3. If you love Corvettes you better pull for the Cruze and the Volt
4. This split window thingie could just be something not quite opaque that looks split windowee from the outside...
06-26-2010, 08:14 PM
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1. We will flush out the Congress this year
2. We will continue and repeat as necessary until 2014
3. If you love Corvettes you better pull for the Cruze and the Volt
4. This split window thingie could just be something not quite opaque that looks split windowee from the outside...
2. We will continue and repeat as necessary until 2014
3. If you love Corvettes you better pull for the Cruze and the Volt
4. This split window thingie could just be something not quite opaque that looks split windowee from the outside...
The Vette will live or die based on market conditions. The split-window was and is a stupid idea.
The rest is PRC blah blah blah.
06-26-2010, 10:37 PM
#57
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Magazines will do what they can to sell so I wouldn't base information on them especially for a car that is at least 4 years away.
CAFE doesn't matter much for the Vette since it is a low seller compared to other Chevy cars.
If the Vette is a high-strung V6 then they will probably lose a bunch of sales. They won't mess with not having a V-8. And really with all the manufacturers out there, I can't think of any that can provide LS3 type power with better fuel economy. Smaller doesn't mean efficient.
CAFE doesn't matter much for the Vette since it is a low seller compared to other Chevy cars.
If the Vette is a high-strung V6 then they will probably lose a bunch of sales. They won't mess with not having a V-8. And really with all the manufacturers out there, I can't think of any that can provide LS3 type power with better fuel economy. Smaller doesn't mean efficient.
06-26-2010, 10:46 PM
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Rags like Automobile, Motor Trend etc. ARE NOT SELLING ! So anything you see about the next Gen car is Pure BS ! They are just trying to sell magazines. This is from the horses mouth Corvette Engineer Tadge Juechter. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVycCzxPsuM
06-26-2010, 11:11 PM
#59
Race Director
Most of the younger crowds have grown up on V6 or 4 and more are coming along all
the time. So I could eventually see a V6 not being frowned on by a buying public.
Would be nice if they could keep the dream alive but hard to say
the time. So I could eventually see a V6 not being frowned on by a buying public.
Would be nice if they could keep the dream alive but hard to say
06-27-2010, 12:04 AM
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And not one single of those engines that are high performance break 30mpg also, say 0-60 in under 6 seconds.