red99bird

Just wondering how my 2008 LS3 Coupe straight from the factory would stack up on the dragstrip vs the muscle cars from the sixties straight from the factory. Original width tires, stock gearing. etc
Thanks, Jackie

obxchartercaptain

I had and raced in 1965 a olds 442. It ran in the mid 13's week after week. It was factory stock with a 4 speed manual.

gene0809

Performance
0 - 30 (sec.) 2.2
0 - 45 (sec.) 3.2
0 - 60 (sec.) 4.5
0 - 75 (sec.) 6.2
1/4 mile (sec. @ mph) 12.8 @ 114.9

jschindler

That is extremely fast for a 60's muscle car. I've still got every magazine I bought going back to August 1965. You'd be surprised how few cars got into the 13's back then. They just couldn't hook up, even if they had the power to get there (which most didn't).

MARSC6

If they have the period correct tires they don't have a chance. With decent tires they may be a little larger in your rearview.

C6~Missle

weight and tires

gene0809

50 FASTEST MUSCLECARS
# YEAR/MODEL ET/MPH ENGINE HP TRANS GEAR SOURCE
1 1966 427 Cobra 12.20@118 427 8V 425 4-Speed 3.54 CC 11/65
2 1966 Corvette 427 12.8@112 L72 427 425 4-Speed 3.36 CD 11/65
3 1969 Road Runner 12.91@111.8 440 Six BBL 390 4-Speed 4.10 SS 6/69
4 1970 Hemi Cuda 13.10@107.12 426 Hemi 425 4-Speed 3.54 CC 11/69
5 1970 Chevelle SS454 13.12@107.01 454 LS6 450 4-Speed 3.55 CC 11/69
6 1969 Camaro 13.16@110.21 427 ZL1 430 4-Speed 4.10 HC 6/69
7 1968 Corvette 13.30@108 427 6V 435 4-Speed 3.70 HC 5/68
8 1970 Road Runner 13.34@107.5 426 Hemi 425 automatic 4.10 SS 12/69
9 1970 Buick GS Stage I 13.38@105.5 455 Stage I 360 automatic 3.64 MT 1/70
10 1968 Corvette 427 13.41@109.5 L72 427 425 4-Speed 3.55 CD 6/68
11 1969 Charger 500 13.48@109 426 Hemi 425 4-Speed 4.10 HR 2/69
12 1968 Charger 13.50@105 426 Hemi 425 automatic 3.23 CD 11/67
12 1970 Plymouth Superbird 13.50@105 426 Hemi 425 ? ? ?
14 1968 Road Runner 13.54@105.1 426 Hemi 425 automatic 3.55 CD 1/69
15 1973 Trans Am 13.54@104.29 455 SD 310 automatic 3.42 HR 6/73
16 1969 Corvette 13.56@111.1 427 L88 430 automatic 3.36 HR 4/69
17 1969 Super Bee 13.56@105.6 440 Six Pack 390 automatic 4.10 HR 8/69
18 1969 Boss 429 Mustang 13.60@106 Boss 429 375 4-Speed 3.91 HC 9/69
19 1970 Challenger R/T 13.62@104.3 440 Six Pack 390 automatic 3.23 CC 11/69
20 1970 Torino Cobra 13.63@105.9 429 SCJ 370 automatic 3.91 SS 3/70
21 1968 Biscayne 13.65@105 427 L72 425 4-Speed 4.56 SS 4/68
22 1964 Polara 500 13.70@107.37 426 4V 365 4-Speed 3.23 HC 2/64
23 1969 GTX 13.70@102.8 440 4V 375 automatic 4.10 MT 1/69
24 1969 Dart 440 13.71@105 440 4V 375 automatic 3.55 CC 5/69
25 1971 Road Runner 13.71@101.2 440 Six BBL 390 automatic 4.10 CC 1/71
26 1971 Cuda 13.72@106 440 Six BBL 390 automatic 4.10 SS 4/71
27 1971 Corvette 13.72@102.04 454 LS6 450 4-Speed 3.36 CL 8/71
28 1971 Super Bee 13.73@104 426 Hemi 425 automatic 4.10 MT 12/70
29 1968 Hurst/Olds 13.77@103.91 455 W-30 390 automatic 3.91 SS 8/68
30 1970 Hemi 'Cuda 13.78@101.2 426 Hemi 425 automatic 4.10 MT 9/69
31 1968 Firebird 13.79@106 400 HO 335 4-Speed N/A HR 3/68
32 1967 Corvette 13.80@108 427 6V 435 4-Speed 3.55 HR 5/67
33 1965 Catalina 13.80@106 421 6V ? 4-Speed 3.42 CD 3/65
34 1969 Super Bee Six Pack 13.80@104.2 440 Six BBL 390 automatic 4.10 CD 7/69
35 1971 Boss 351 Mustang 13.80@104 Boss 351 330 4-Speed 3.91 MT 1/71
36 1966 Satellite 13.81@104 426 Hemi 425 4-Speed 3.54 CD 4/66
37 1969 Coronet R/T 13.83@102.27 440 4V 375 4-Speed 4.10 SS 4/69
38 1968 Cyclone GT 13.86@101.69 428 CJ 335 automatic 4.11 MT 8/68
39 1969 Nova SS 396 13.87@105.1 396 4V 375 automatic 3.55 HR 7/69
40 1969 Shelby GT-500 13.87@104.52 428 CJ 335 4-Speed 3.91 SS 9/69
41 1969 Cyclone Cobra Jet 13.88@101.7 428 CJ 335 automatic 4.11 MT 1/69
42 1970 Olds 4-4-2 W-30 13.88@95.84 455 W-30 370 automatic 3.42 CC 11/69
43 1962 Corvette 13.89@105.14 327 FI 360 4-Speed 4.10 HR 1/62
44 1969 Barracuda 13.89@103.21 440 4V 375 automatic 4.10 SS 8/69
45 1962 Catalina 13.90@107 421 4V ? 4-Speed 4.30 MT 5/62
46 1969 Mustang Mach I 13.90@103.32 428 CJ 335 automatic 3.50 CL 3/69
47 1967 GTO 13.90@102.8 400 RA 360 automatic 4.33 CL 10/67
48 1970 Trans Am 13.90@102 400 RA 345 4-Speed 3.91 HR 2/70
49 1970 Torino Cobra 13.99@101 429 4V ? 4-Speed 3.91 MT 2/70
Legend: CC=Car Craft, CD=Car and Driver, CL=Car Life, HC=Hi Performance Cars, HR=Hot Rod, MCR=Muscle Car Review, MM=Mopar Muscle, MT=Motor Trend, SS=Super Stock

dvilin

LS3 all day long.

gene0809

BillH2121

gene0809 - that's a great list and reading that list brings back a lot of good memories!

srpbaer

Just be aware if a black Buick in the 87 year model pulls up beside you...most today are mildly modded and will kick your butt big time..oh year almost forgot...it's a six banger!!!...Go Grand National...had one with just a few mods...11.50s all day long and quiet as a mouse!!!

jschindler

That list is somewhat meaningless. They are not telling you how many were running on drag slicks of some sort. Also, it was almost a joke back then that many cars that were sent to magazines were not exactly stock.

Probably the most infamous example was a GTO that actually had a 421 Tri-Power in it instead of a 389. I promise you that many of those cars high on the list could not do those times with stock tires.

Like I said earlier, I still have all the magazines from back then. I have tests of 435 hp Corvettes that were in the low 14's at under 100 mph.

gene0809

Yes...was in or saw many of these cars!!!!

CO Lightfoot

Yes, stock vs stock.

Just don't race for pinks at your local dragstrip... plenty of upgraded 60's muscle cars out there will easily beat a stock LS3 C6.

dvilin

I guess the old saying "Wouldn't you really rather have a Buick" still evokes pleasant memories for some people.

Boomer111

I know from seat of the pants that my 65 GTO with tri power made alot of noise and lifted up when floored but would not hold a candle to my LS3. Interesting experience yesterday, a friend in from Texas and an old mucsle car guy commented how well the vette cornered and I did not even really push it. Car remains level and he was duly impressed. FSD's with Z51 bars and tunnel plate. Really no big deal but I think we take a lot for granted with these newer cars.

calmtgguy

What was car #50? I think this is a great list. I use to have a '63 Nova Sport Coupe, in '73, that was totally setup for the strip, with a loaded small block, and M21, and it only weighed about 2,500 lbs. Being in the low 12's was considered quick for what it was. Right from the factory, the '08 Vette is all the quick that I need.

NJ Vette Guy

I once made a guy in a '69 Camero SS w/396 cry....

When he thought he was going to walk all over my C5.....

Smitter

Stock to stock you would have them by several car lengths

LS WON

The new cars of today will walk all over the oldies of yesteryear. Back in the 70's and 80's it was not like today in factory stock condition. The earlier older muscle cars were faster than their 70's and 80's counterparts.